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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
Presumably they deliver mains voltage to chargers in the cars but
using hefty plugs instead of the standard three pin. If there was also a three pin socket they could serve for bikes carrying their own charger but I bet Boris hasn't thought of that., or doesn't want to. "London electric car scheme secures £17m funding London Mayor Boris Johnson has secured £17m for electric car charge points for the capital. The money will fund 1,600 charge points over the next twelve months, increasing to a network of 7,500 charging points by spring 2013, according to the mayor. This cash will contribute to the delivery of Mr Johnson's target of 25,000 charge points in London by 2015..." "...Jenny Jones, Green Party member for the London Assembly, said the announcement was "a healthy first step". But she warned: "Electric vehicles are still cars, so they still cause congestion, disruption, casualties and deaths on the roads." "They are part of the solution, but don't fix the other problems that all cars cause" Murad Qureshi, Labour's environment spokesman on the London Assembly, said: "We have to be very careful not to get too carried away with electric vehicles as a panacea for our transport woes. "The mayor needs to do more to encourage people out of their cars." ..." Yeah sure! Instead we have electric car greenwash for petrol-heads with a conscience.. -- Carfree UK http://carfree.org.uk/ Promoting carfree development and its environmental, social, financial and health benefits. |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
Doug wrote:
Presumably they deliver mains voltage to chargers in the cars but using hefty plugs instead of the standard three pin. If there was also a three pin socket they could serve for bikes carrying their own charger but I bet Boris hasn't thought of that., or doesn't want to. "London electric car scheme secures £17m funding London Mayor Boris Johnson has secured £17m for electric car charge points for the capital. The money will fund 1,600 charge points over the next twelve months, increasing to a network of 7,500 charging points by spring 2013, according to the mayor. This cash will contribute to the delivery of Mr Johnson's target of 25,000 charge points in London by 2015..." "...Jenny Jones, Green Party member for the London Assembly, said the announcement was "a healthy first step". But she warned: "Electric vehicles are still cars, so they still cause congestion, disruption, casualties and deaths on the roads." "They are part of the solution, but don't fix the other problems that all cars cause" Murad Qureshi, Labour's environment spokesman on the London Assembly, said: "We have to be very careful not to get too carried away with electric vehicles as a panacea for our transport woes. "The mayor needs to do more to encourage people out of their cars." ..." Yeah sure! Instead we have electric car greenwash for petrol-heads with a conscience.. -- Carfree UK http://carfree.org.uk/ Promoting carfree development and its environmental, social, financial and health benefits. It's good to see you are into recycling, you are now recycling the thread that you started in November. You were asked "Just for a change do some proper research to see if the two systems are interchangeable, when you find the answer, post it on this ng with a copy of the note you will be sending to the Mayors Office advising them of your research results & your suggestions of how the two systems could operate together* You replied "Incompatible plugs/sockets are used. I would rather not campaign at this stage but instead leave this omission on the part of the Mayor as mounting evidence of neglect and discrimination against cyclists and particularly in favour of motorists. " Has anything changed, have you contacted the Mayors Office? -- Tony Dragon |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
On 26 Feb, 07:09, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote: Presumably they deliver mains voltage to chargers in the cars but using hefty plugs instead of the standard three pin. If there was also a three pin socket they could serve for bikes carrying their own charger but I bet Boris hasn't thought of that., or doesn't want to. "London electric car scheme secures 17m funding London Mayor Boris Johnson has secured 17m for electric car charge points for the capital. The money will fund 1,600 charge points over the next twelve months, increasing to a network of 7,500 charging points by spring 2013, according to the mayor. This cash will contribute to the delivery of Mr Johnson's target of 25,000 charge points in London by 2015..." "...Jenny Jones, Green Party member for the London Assembly, said the announcement was "a healthy first step". But she warned: "Electric vehicles are still cars, so they still cause congestion, disruption, casualties and deaths on the roads." "They are part of the solution, but don't fix the other problems that all cars cause" Murad Qureshi, Labour's environment spokesman on the London Assembly, said: "We have to be very careful not to get too carried away with electric vehicles as a panacea for our transport woes. "The mayor needs to do more to encourage people out of their cars." ..." Yeah sure! *Instead we have electric car greenwash for petrol-heads with a conscience.. It's good to see you are into recycling, you are now recycling the thread that you started in November. You are quite wrong as usual. This is in response to yesterdays announcement. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8536110.stm Since when am I not supposed to comment on current news? You were asked "Just for a change do some proper research to see if the two systems are interchangeable, when you find the answer, post it on this ng with a copy of the note you will be sending to the Mayors Office advising them of your research results & your suggestions of how the two systems could operate together* You replied "Incompatible plugs/sockets are used. I would rather not campaign at this stage but instead leave this omission on the part of the Mayor as mounting evidence of neglect and discrimination against cyclists and particularly in favour of motorists. " Has anything changed, Yes it has been given funding and is expanding. have you contacted the Mayors Office? No. Have you? I notice you don't actually make a constructive contribution to this topic. I wonder why? When did you last use a bicycle? -- Carfree UK http://carfree.org.uk/ Promoting carfree development and its environmental, social, financial and health benefits. |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
Doug wrote:
On 26 Feb, 07:09, Tony Dragon wrote: Doug wrote: Presumably they deliver mains voltage to chargers in the cars but using hefty plugs instead of the standard three pin. If there was also a three pin socket they could serve for bikes carrying their own charger but I bet Boris hasn't thought of that., or doesn't want to. "London electric car scheme secures 17m funding London Mayor Boris Johnson has secured 17m for electric car charge points for the capital. The money will fund 1,600 charge points over the next twelve months, increasing to a network of 7,500 charging points by spring 2013, according to the mayor. This cash will contribute to the delivery of Mr Johnson's target of 25,000 charge points in London by 2015..." "...Jenny Jones, Green Party member for the London Assembly, said the announcement was "a healthy first step". But she warned: "Electric vehicles are still cars, so they still cause congestion, disruption, casualties and deaths on the roads." "They are part of the solution, but don't fix the other problems that all cars cause" Murad Qureshi, Labour's environment spokesman on the London Assembly, said: "We have to be very careful not to get too carried away with electric vehicles as a panacea for our transport woes. "The mayor needs to do more to encourage people out of their cars." ..." Yeah sure! Instead we have electric car greenwash for petrol-heads with a conscience.. It's good to see you are into recycling, you are now recycling the thread that you started in November. You are quite wrong as usual. This is in response to yesterdays announcement. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8536110.stm Since when am I not supposed to comment on current news? Comment as much as you like, but you did not state you were responding to a recent report. You were asked "Just for a change do some proper research to see if the two systems are interchangeable, when you find the answer, post it on this ng with a copy of the note you will be sending to the Mayors Office advising them of your research results & your suggestions of how the two systems could operate together* You replied "Incompatible plugs/sockets are used. I would rather not campaign at this stage but instead leave this omission on the part of the Mayor as mounting evidence of neglect and discrimination against cyclists and particularly in favour of motorists. " Has anything changed, Yes it has been given funding and is expanding. Well that seems like a good idea. have you contacted the Mayors Office? No. Have you? I notice you don't actually make a constructive contribution to this topic. I wonder why? When did you last use a bicycle? -- Carfree UK http://carfree.org.uk/ Promoting carfree development and its environmental, social, financial and health benefits. No I haven't contacted the Mayors Office, but I do not own an electric bike, you do, so if it's important to you do something about it, you're always on about campaigning about other things. But how difficult is it to charge an electric bike, a colleague has started using one & just wheels it into a storeroom & plugs it in. -- Tony Dragon |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
It's a bit of a non-issue isn't it? I mean if you really need to charge
up at work you can wheel the bicycle in to the office and charge it there. Also if you run out of juice you can still pedal home, or put the leccy bike in a taxi. I would image all the g-wiz drivers would get pretty annoyed if all the charging points were taken up with people charging their bicycles all day. If it's ever going to be something useful to do, then it would be more effective use of space to provide the charging points for the bikes at the bike racks. -- www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
On 26 Feb, 07:49, Jim A wrote:
It's a bit of a non-issue isn't it? *I mean if you really need to charge up at work you can wheel the bicycle in to the office and charge it there. They don't always allow bicycles in the office. *Also if you run out of juice you can still pedal home, or put the leccy bike in a taxi. But it could extend the range. I would image all the g-wiz drivers would get pretty annoyed if all the charging points were taken up with people charging their bicycles all day. *If it's ever going to be something useful to do, then it would be more effective use of space to provide the charging points for the bikes at the bike racks. Good idea! --www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride Doug.. |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
On 26 Feb, 07:49, Jim A wrote:
It's a bit of a non-issue isn't it? �I mean if you really need to charge up at work ^^^^^ Ah, there's the bit where Doug will fail to understand your post. |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:49:52 +0000
Jim A wrote: It's a bit of a non-issue isn't it? I mean if you really need to charge up at work you can wheel the bicycle in to the office and charge it there. Don't most leccy bikes have removable battery packs that you can just slide out and take in to charge? |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
On 26 Feb, 21:07, Rob Morley wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:49:52 +0000 Jim A wrote: It's a bit of a non-issue isn't it? *I mean if you really need to charge up at work you can wheel the bicycle in to the office and charge it there. Don't most leccy bikes have removable battery packs that you can just slide out and take in to charge? Yes but... What if you are shopping instead of commuting? Also what about long distance travel, from one charging point to the next? -- Car Free Living Project http://www.carfreelivingproject.org.uk/ For people wishing to live without a car |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
Doug wrote:
On 26 Feb, 21:07, Rob Morley wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:49:52 +0000 Jim A wrote: It's a bit of a non-issue isn't it? I mean if you really need to charge up at work you can wheel the bicycle in to the office and charge it there. Don't most leccy bikes have removable battery packs that you can just slide out and take in to charge? Yes but... What if you are shopping instead of commuting? Also what about long distance travel, from one charging point to the next? You don't believe that anyone has the right to travel long-distance without official permission anyway. What better means of control than limited access to fuel? "Your papers, please...". |
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