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Maverick MonoLink Assembly?
(oops! I just posted this to rec.bicycles.tech by mistake... so this
will effectively be a cross-post) ----------------------------------------------------------- I'm wondering how to reassemble the link: Dry? (i.e. no grease or anti-seize), Blue LocTite? Red LocTite? Can't find anything helpful at www.maverickamerican.com. They give you the torque, but that's about all. Called the frame's builder, got some advice...but I don't have anything close to a warm fuzzy feeling about it. Asked a guy at the LBS that has the same bike and he said he uses LocTite - but Blue because Red is so permanent. OTOH the thing definately had traces of Red on it when I did the first disassembly. He also says that he disassembles, cleans, and reassembles his MonoLink every 20 rides. Sounds high-maintainence to me.... Brand new, my bike was really tight and perfectly quiet for about the first two hours of riding and it was downhill from there on. I torqued the bolts to spec, and it quieted down for awhile - only to get noisy again after a couple days. Inspection revealed that the bolts were coming loose again...so I took somebody's advice and used Red LocTite on them. All was well for about a month...then a very small creak started. Thunk I, "why keep tearing thing apart? Those cheesey bolts won't take that much assembly/disassembly..." So I dripped a little chain lube into that area. Beeeeeg mistake. The creakfest started immediately. *Major* creaking going on there...I could even feel it through the handlebars - every stroke, and I didn't even have to get out of the saddle. People were *staring* as I rode by. Thought the frame had cracked. So, now I've taken it apart again; cleaned everything off; and am ready for the (final?) reassembly. But it doesn't look to me like it SB totally dry - especially those 4 collar washers that seem to be a sacrificial interface between the unit and the frame. Anybody been here before? -- PeteCresswell |
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Maverick MonoLink Assembly?
(Pete Cresswell) wrote:
(oops! I just posted this to rec.bicycles.tech by mistake... so this will effectively be a cross-post) ----------------------------------------------------------- I'm wondering how to reassemble the link: Dry? (i.e. no grease or anti-seize), Blue LocTite? Red LocTite? Can't find anything helpful at www.maverickamerican.com. They give you the torque, but that's about all. Called the frame's builder, got some advice...but I don't have anything close to a warm fuzzy feeling about it. Asked a guy at the LBS that has the same bike and he said he uses LocTite - but Blue because Red is so permanent. OTOH the thing definately had traces of Red on it when I did the first disassembly. He also says that he disassembles, cleans, and reassembles his MonoLink every 20 rides. Sounds high-maintainence to me.... Brand new, my bike was really tight and perfectly quiet for about the first two hours of riding and it was downhill from there on. I torqued the bolts to spec, and it quieted down for awhile - only to get noisy again after a couple days. Inspection revealed that the bolts were coming loose again...so I took somebody's advice and used Red LocTite on them. All was well for about a month...then a very small creak started. Thunk I, "why keep tearing thing apart? Those cheesey bolts won't take that much assembly/disassembly..." So I dripped a little chain lube into that area. Beeeeeg mistake. The creakfest started immediately. *Major* creaking going on there...I could even feel it through the handlebars - every stroke, and I didn't even have to get out of the saddle. People were *staring* as I rode by. Thought the frame had cracked. So, now I've taken it apart again; cleaned everything off; and am ready for the (final?) reassembly. But it doesn't look to me like it SB totally dry - especially those 4 collar washers that seem to be a sacrificial interface between the unit and the frame. Anybody been here before? Yup, been there (with my Palomino). Not creaking, but I've had stiction in the bearings. My LBS is adamant about NOT using lube in the reassembly. I clean the bushings and parts very thoroughly (water and rubbing-I don't use any other solvent). I reassemble with blue loctite. You're gonna do this often, so don't use red (The "permanent" kind, right?). Inspect the bushings to make sure they haven't worn out, plus check for play in the linkage once its back together and torqued. If its wiggly, get new bushings. I'd say your LBS is about right with 20 rides (e.g. 40-50 hours) between rebuilds. I can do mine in 15 minutes or so now, so that's not too bad. Shawn |
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Maverick MonoLink Assembly?
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I can do mine in 15 minutes or so now, so that's not too bad. What's the trick to getting the two ends of the link lined up with the holes in the frame? Right now, I'm bumping it with my hand over-and-over until I get lucky. Eventually I'm going to damage the bolts trying to put them through when it's not perfectly aligned. Just for the heck of it, I asked about replacment price on the bolts: Forty bucks!!!! Seems like it calls out for a tapered metal rod that you stick in there and then give a couple taps with a mallet to bring the hole through the bearing in alignment with the holes in the frame. Also, one expert I managed to get on the phone today said that Maverick has switched to something called "Bronzite" for those collar washers/bearing caps because of creaking problems with alu. -- PeteCresswell |
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Maverick MonoLink Assembly?
(Pete Cresswell) wrote:
RE/ I can do mine in 15 minutes or so now, so that's not too bad. What's the trick to getting the two ends of the link lined up with the holes in the frame? Right now, I'm bumping it with my hand over-and-over until I get lucky. Eventually I'm going to damage the bolts trying to put them through when it's not perfectly aligned. Just for the heck of it, I asked about replacment price on the bolts: Forty bucks!!!! Seems like it calls out for a tapered metal rod that you stick in there and then give a couple taps with a mallet to bring the hole through the bearing in alignment with the holes in the frame. Also, one expert I managed to get on the phone today said that Maverick has switched to something called "Bronzite" for those collar washers/bearing caps because of creaking problems with alu. Mine must be a lot looser. I can line up the holes easily. I'd try a wood or plastic rod before I'd risk metal. I don't know what my bearings are made of, but they look like metalized plastic/plasticized metal. Is that Bronzite? Shawn |
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Mine must be a lot looser. I can line up the holes easily. I'd try a wood or plastic rod before I'd risk metal. I don't know what my bearings are made of, but they look like metalized plastic/plasticized metal. Is that Bronzite? It's not the bearings, it's those little press-fit collar washers (bushings?) on each side of the bearing. The guy said Bronzite was definately bronze-colored. I'm pretty sure mine are alu. I found a felt-tip marker whose plastic barrel is just the right size for lining up the holes. I cleaned everything with 70% iso alchohol so it was absolutely sano. Seated the bushings in a little ti-prep, and re-assembled with LocTite Blue. Hopped on, expecting total silence. "CREEEEEEEEEK"....no change. Turned out that the little 4mm screws down there that join the link to the shock assembly had started to back out. Torqued them to spec and.... silence. Like they said in 12th-grade General Science: "Correlation Causation". Live and learn....-) -- PeteCresswell |
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