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Old September 20th 17, 03:20 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Woman killed by racing cyclist

On 20/09/2017 09:34, TMS320 wrote:

On 20/09/17 01:35, JNugent wrote:
On 19/09/2017 17:23, TMS320 wrote:
On 19/09/17 15:41, JNugent wrote:
On 19/09/2017 14:29, TMS320 wrote:
On 14/09/17 12:26, JNugent wrote:
On 11/09/2017 10:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 09/09/17 21:31, JNugent wrote:


Cyclist kills pedestrian (again)?
But this *cannot* happen (we've been told that so many times here).
But still, if the cyclist had been driving a car, it would have
been worse.


Yes, if the cyclist had been driving a car in such circumstances
there would have been 5 dead and 25 injured.


Even if there were only one pedestrian there?


Well, over time, the ratio is normally something like 200 to 1 but
in this case it seems the rider was taking part in a publicly
sanctioned race on a route lined with people spectating. So unless
people and pedestrians are different things, I think it is fairly
safe to assume there was more than one.


Here's the $64,000 one: why would a contestant drive a car in a
bicycle race?


Plenty of cars are driven in bicycle races. Must the driver be a
contestant?


Besides, that isn't the point as you (should) know perfectly well.


What would you consider the clause "...taking part in a publicly
sanctioned race on a route..." to mean?
Supervising the race or taking part in it?


Do you really expect a response to that?


No, of course not, since the only truthful one would undermine your
imagined position.

That was sort of the point in asking you that particular question.
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  #12  
Old September 22nd 17, 12:34 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Woman killed by racing cyclist

On 20/09/17 15:20, JNugent wrote:
On 20/09/2017 09:34, TMS320 wrote:
On 20/09/17 01:35, JNugent wrote:
On 19/09/2017 17:23, TMS320 wrote:
On 19/09/17 15:41, JNugent wrote:
On 19/09/2017 14:29, TMS320 wrote:
On 14/09/17 12:26, JNugent wrote:
On 11/09/2017 10:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 09/09/17 21:31, JNugent wrote:


Cyclist kills pedestrian (again)?
But this *cannot* happen (we've been told that so many times
here).
But still, if the cyclist had been driving a car, it would have
been worse.


Yes, if the cyclist had been driving a car in such circumstances
there would have been 5 dead and 25 injured.


Even if there were only one pedestrian there?


Well, over time, the ratio is normally something like 200 to 1 but
in this case it seems the rider was taking part in a publicly
sanctioned race on a route lined with people spectating. So unless
people and pedestrians are different things, I think it is fairly
safe to assume there was more than one.


Here's the $64,000 one: why would a contestant drive a car in a
bicycle race?


Plenty of cars are driven in bicycle races. Must the driver be a
contestant?


Besides, that isn't the point as you (should) know perfectly well.


What would you consider the clause "...taking part in a publicly
sanctioned race on a route..." to mean?
Supervising the race or taking part in it?


Do you really expect a response to that?


No, of course not, since the only truthful one would undermine your
imagined position.

That was sort of the point in asking you that particular question.


Your question is irrelevant to the proven fact that cars are more
dangerous than bicycles. You have obviously forgotten that that was the
subject.
  #13  
Old September 22nd 17, 01:24 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Woman killed by racing cyclist

On 22/09/2017 00:34, TMS320 wrote:

On 20/09/17 15:20, JNugent wrote:
On 20/09/2017 09:34, TMS320 wrote:
On 20/09/17 01:35, JNugent wrote:
On 19/09/2017 17:23, TMS320 wrote:
On 19/09/17 15:41, JNugent wrote:
On 19/09/2017 14:29, TMS320 wrote:
On 14/09/17 12:26, JNugent wrote:
On 11/09/2017 10:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 09/09/17 21:31, JNugent wrote:


Cyclist kills pedestrian (again)?
But this *cannot* happen (we've been told that so many times
here).
But still, if the cyclist had been driving a car, it would
have been worse.


Yes, if the cyclist had been driving a car in such
circumstances there would have been 5 dead and 25 injured.


Even if there were only one pedestrian there?


Well, over time, the ratio is normally something like 200 to 1
but in this case it seems the rider was taking part in a publicly
sanctioned race on a route lined with people spectating. So
unless people and pedestrians are different things, I think it is
fairly safe to assume there was more than one.


Here's the $64,000 one: why would a contestant drive a car in a
bicycle race?


Plenty of cars are driven in bicycle races. Must the driver be a
contestant?
Besides, that isn't the point as you (should) know perfectly well.


What would you consider the clause "...taking part in a publicly
sanctioned race on a route..." to mean?
Supervising the race or taking part in it?


Do you really expect a response to that?


No, of course not, since the only truthful one would undermine your
imagined position.
That was sort of the point in asking you that particular question.


Your question is irrelevant to the proven fact that cars are more
dangerous than bicycles. You have obviously forgotten that that was the
subject.


So you dare not answer the question: "What would you consider the clause
"...taking part in a publicly sanctioned race on a route..." to mean?
Supervising the race or taking part in it?".

Well, we never thought you would.

And on your attempted swerve, you are, of course, s per usual, quite wrong.

That's because even a low-speed prang can prove fatal for a cyclist,
whereas due to the many safety improvements to cars and vans over the
past few decades, low-speed accidents rarely injure a car occupant. In
fact, even crashes on the motorway frequently don't cause very much
injury (unless a lorry driver is involved).

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Old September 22nd 17, 10:16 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 22/09/17 01:24, JNugent wrote:
On 22/09/2017 00:34, TMS320 wrote:
On 20/09/17 15:20, JNugent wrote:
On 20/09/2017 09:34, TMS320 wrote:
On 20/09/17 01:35, JNugent wrote:
On 19/09/2017 17:23, TMS320 wrote:
On 19/09/17 15:41, JNugent wrote:
On 19/09/2017 14:29, TMS320 wrote:
On 14/09/17 12:26, JNugent wrote:
On 11/09/2017 10:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 09/09/17 21:31, JNugent wrote:


Cyclist kills pedestrian (again)?
But this *cannot* happen (we've been told that so many times
here).
But still, if the cyclist had been driving a car, it would
have been worse.


Yes, if the cyclist had been driving a car in such
circumstances there would have been 5 dead and 25 injured.


Even if there were only one pedestrian there?


Well, over time, the ratio is normally something like 200 to 1
but in this case it seems the rider was taking part in a
publicly sanctioned race on a route lined with people
spectating. So unless people and pedestrians are different
things, I think it is fairly safe to assume there was more than
one.


Here's the $64,000 one: why would a contestant drive a car in a
bicycle race?


Plenty of cars are driven in bicycle races. Must the driver be a
contestant?
Besides, that isn't the point as you (should) know perfectly well.


What would you consider the clause "...taking part in a publicly
sanctioned race on a route..." to mean?
Supervising the race or taking part in it?


Do you really expect a response to that?


No, of course not, since the only truthful one would undermine your
imagined position.
That was sort of the point in asking you that particular question.


Your question is irrelevant to the proven fact that cars are more
dangerous than bicycles. You have obviously forgotten that that was
the subject.


So you dare not answer the question: "What would you consider the clause
"...taking part in a publicly sanctioned race on a route..." to mean?
Supervising the race or taking part in it?".


Tell me the answer you're looking for. You can then suggest why the
question is relevant to the difference between car and bicycle.

Well, we never thought you would.

And on your attempted swerve, you are, of course, s per usual, quite wrong.

That's because even a low-speed prang can prove fatal for a cyclist,
whereas due to the many safety improvements to cars and vans over the
past few decades, low-speed accidents rarely injure a car occupant. In
fact, even crashes on the motorway frequently don't cause very much
injury (unless a lorry driver is involved).


The matter was about safety to others. (Since you have obviously
forgotten, scroll up to the top of this post.)
 




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