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Old August 9th 09, 09:40 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Just zis Guy, you know?[_2_]
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Not Malcolm Wardlaw's spoof or the one from Copehagenize
(http://www.copenhagenize.com/2009/08/walking-helmet-is-good-helmet.html,
which seems to have fooled several people).


This one appears to be real. http://www.wear-a-helmet.com/

I have a friend who does charity work in Vietnam; I think his view
would be that they might be better off devoting their efforts to
removing the remaining landmines.

Guy
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Old August 9th 09, 10:13 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:40:50 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

This one appears to be real. http://www.wear-a-helmet.com/


It does indeed, although it's somewhat self-contradictory and
certainly confused. Their 'stats' page appears to be quoting global
figures, with no differentiation between different road users. And the
main of it seems to be aimed at motorcyclists.

I have a friend who does charity work in Vietnam; I think his view
would be that they might be better off devoting their efforts to
removing the remaining landmines.


Or just learning to drive. But seriously, if they were simply
targetting moped and motorbike riders it might make a bit more sense.

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Old August 9th 09, 10:17 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
Not Malcolm Wardlaw's spoof or the one from Copehagenize
(http://www.copenhagenize.com/2009/08/walking-helmet-is-good-helmet.html,
which seems to have fooled several people).


Think of the children....

http://www.thudguard.com/

You couldn't make it up.
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Old August 9th 09, 02:19 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Marc[_2_]
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Tosspot wrote:
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
Not Malcolm Wardlaw's spoof or the one from Copehagenize
(http://www.copenhagenize.com/2009/08/walking-helmet-is-good-helmet.html,
which seems to have fooled several people).


Think of the children....

http://www.thudguard.com/

You couldn't make it up.



"... should make a valuable contribution to risk reduction in a similar
way to cycle helmets..."

David W. Jenkins BA MPhil(Eng) PhD DCA FTSI
Product Safety Adviser to RoSP

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Old August 9th 09, 03:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith M Smith
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On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:40:50 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

snip


This one appears to be real. http://www.wear-a-helmet.com/

I have a friend who does charity work in Vietnam; I think his view
would be that they might be better off devoting their efforts to
removing the remaining landmines.

Guy



You area pathetic fool Chapman.

Only one as despicable as you would try and make such a cheap jibe.

I actually doubt if you have any friends - never mind about one doing
charity work in Vietnam.


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He is despicable - on this evidence you should not believe *anything* he says.
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Old August 9th 09, 03:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:17:24 +0200, Tosspot
wrote:

Think of the children....

http://www.thudguard.com/

You couldn't make it up.


It doesn't explain exactly how it stops your heart being rendered. Can
bike helmets do that too? I'm sure someone would have mentioned it if
they could ;-)

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Old August 9th 09, 03:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Judith M Smith wrote in
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On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:40:50 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

snip


This one appears to be real. http://www.wear-a-helmet.com/

I have a friend who does charity work in Vietnam; I think his view
would be that they might be better off devoting their efforts to
removing the remaining landmines.

Guy



You area pathetic fool Chapman.

Only one as despicable as you would try and make such a cheap jibe.


The campaign is aimed at persuading motorcyclists in Vietnam to wear
helmets. 95% of road accidents involve motorcycles.

I certainly wouldn't be mocking such a campaign.
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Old August 9th 09, 03:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Peter Grange wrote in
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On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:17:24 +0200, Tosspot
wrote:

Think of the children....

http://www.thudguard.com/

You couldn't make it up.


It doesn't explain exactly how it stops your heart being rendered. Can
bike helmets do that too? I'm sure someone would have mentioned it if
they could ;-)


"Over 318,575 baby & toddler head injuries are recorded each
year!"(Department of Trade & Industry).

Again, common sense being ridiculed. What is wrong with people?
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Old August 9th 09, 04:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Mr. Benn wrote:
Peter Grange wrote in
:

On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:17:24 +0200, Tosspot
wrote:

Think of the children....

http://www.thudguard.com/

You couldn't make it up.

It doesn't explain exactly how it stops your heart being rendered. Can
bike helmets do that too? I'm sure someone would have mentioned it if
they could ;-)


"Over 318,575 baby & toddler head injuries are recorded each
year!"(Department of Trade & Industry).

Again, common sense being ridiculed. What is wrong with people?


From the same page:

"get down on your hands and knees and have a wander around. Look at all
the furniture, hard surfaces and sharp edges you would hit if you fell
on them - both inside your home and outside in your garden."

But no advice about moving things or fitting corner protectors or safety
glass or safety film ( something a registered childminder has to do).

Yerst, me suspects nowt to do with thinking of children but going for
the knee-jerk 'cough up or your child will DIE'

And what, exactly, are these DoTI (well named it seems in this case)
figures referring to? How many are the usual "It's normal for young
children to sustain bumps and bruises occasionally as part of
exploring." (Thudguard).


Will they continue to support the same children through to the end of
thier lives, ensuring that as they get older they buy helmets to protect
them every single day? If so, Darwin gives us a little reminder about
how those unable to adapt tend to die out. A few generations of
Thudguardians and they will not be able to survive without protective
head gear while the rest of us brought up normally will manage to
survive the inadvertant (hopefully) Frisbee to the head.

I am so please there is no such thing as 'common sense' or the human
race wouldn't have got as far as it has before wiping itself out.


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Old August 9th 09, 05:31 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Mr. Benn wrote (quoted by KeithT):
"Over 318,575 baby & toddler head injuries are recorded each
year!"(Department of Trade & Industry).
Again, common sense being ridiculed. What is wrong with people?


OK, let's try some common sense. Whichever way you cut this figure, it
means (if true) that 1 in 3 of us would have a recorded head injury in
infancy.

It turns out that about half a percent of us don't make it to 1 year old,
and another .1% (i.e. 1 in a thousand) don't make it to 5.

But of those who die under 1, about 2/3 die within 28 days of birth, long
before they can even turn over, let alone move around.

So. Deaths from all causes between 28 days and 5 years are around a
thousand times fewer than the number of these recorded injuries.

The only possible conclusion is that the infant skull is fully capable of
dealing with the knocks and bumps it's subjected to. Any attempt to
protect it is just likely to undermine the basic lesson all people learn
eventually - hitting your head hurts, so don't do it.

If you work it out, the human reaction time is shorter than the time taken
to move 6 feet at 12mph. So in any crash a cycle helmet might help with,
you have time to protect your head and hit some other part of yourself.


Colin McKenzie

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