Don't hassle me - I'm riding my bike

On Sunday, 5 July 2020 05:42:03 UTC-4, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 04.07.2020 um 05:02 schrieb Jeff Liebermann:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 08:01:52 +0700, John B.
wrote:

As for 5 pocket jeans, I guess the Levi's 501 still have a watch
pocket :-)

At some time in the distant past, the "fob pocket" may have been used
as a watch pocket. Today, more like a coin or condom pocket:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/small-pocket-jeans-watches-cowboys_n_56a7720ce4b0b87beec5eb5f
More than you probably wanted to know:
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-our-jeans-have-a-tiny-pocket-just-above-the-front-pocket-Was-it-something-useful-that-was-added-or-is-it-just-a-fashion-thing

Am I unique in mostly buying pants that have a "key pocket"? My house
keys live in that pocket, and when I wear pant without them, I need to
search an awfully long time where the key is.

I understand that car drivers can't use their pockets this way because
car keys plus house keys are too large, so car keys tend to live in a
bowl or drawer...

I wear my keys and my key fobs around my neck on a lanyard with a quick-release buckle. When I'm really exerting myself on the bicycle it that lanyard with the keys works as a pendulum and I can instantly see if I'm thrashing from side t side which is wasteful technique. I want the pendulum to stay stationary and not swing side to side. It's actually quite an effective training aide for improving pedaling technique.

Cheers

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:12:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

While someone like Frank might hurry his own death along by trying to walk the streets of Oakland I have people offering help whenever they believe they can be of some.

Last Wednesday I was talking to a rich man, like most rich a large part was inherited. His Grandmother had a farm in the bay area not long after the civil war when food was big business. And also like most rich he spreads it around as much as possible. He is a surgeon and works for Doctors without Borders. He works mostly in Africa and he talked about how much healthier African Children are than Americans because their immune systems are under constant challenge. Perhaps this is the reason that I have such good health. Traipsing through the salt marshes when I was a kid. I suppose a large part of these marshes were formed as part of the run-off from the cities which could not have been very healthy.

We discussed the idea that a cloth mask could possibly even slow down a molecule like a virus and we both got a good laugh out of that (I suppose that he definitely would not fall under Frank's category of "medical expert" I have the distinct impression that what Frank thinks of as an expert is anyone that sits on their ass and reads an occasional study. Frank appears to be unaware that most studies are absolute garbage but then I suppose that is what he taught in college. Poor students. Though they probably learned the art of engineering by practice and not by his meanderings.

Virtually everything that has been visited upon this country by the Democrats has been a virtual curse. While walking through those salt marshes I was accompanied by an American kid of Japanese extraction. He grew up in Roosevelt's concentration camps. These were formed in large part so that Roosevelt who was one of the most racist people that ever lived could allow his friends to seize the property of the Japanese/Americans who were rather prosperous up to that time.

Exactly what do you suppose goes through the head of a man who has a large guaranteed income when he would tell the working man that he cannot work and cannot provide for his family and must do insane things like wear a mask in public unless he is robbing a bank? Social distancing is much like wearing a mask - an infected person has a cloud of virus molecules surrounding his head and contrary to the highly educated Dr. Fauci's thoughts, these thing do not fall to the ground like a brick dropped off a building. They float pretty much in place in a stream along which you are walking. That means that someone could pass through that very slowly dispersing cloud minutes after you have passed and be exposed.

The entire Democrat Party has retained some small remnants of power though the constant threats and fear. Awful environmental impact that is barely measurable, man-made climate change that doesn't exist and now a virus that is virtually harmless.

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:16:27 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 4:13 PM, sms wrote:
On 7/3/2020 12:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes. I'd have to reach around to my jersey
pocket, and any decent gun would probably stretch the hell
out of it. I need the Garmin gun mount.

-- Jay Beattie.

The driver brought a knife to a gun fight.

This reminds me of visiting my family in Florida one year.
There was a TV news story about a woman who had dropped her
purse in Publix (a supermarket) and her gun had gone off.
The news crew was interviewing other women shoppers about
the incident. The women were criticizing the shopper with
the errant gun for bringing the wrong type of gun to the
supermarket, and were showing the news crews their own guns.


When I worked in Texas, women commonly drove their pickups
to the grocery with a rifle in the rack (and likely
something in the purse as well). Can't recall any incidents
with either.

But consider - no one stole those racked rifles while Mom was in the store. That was something you just didn't do. Now it would be expected.

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 4:36:12 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:12:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--

I can't remember the last time I needed or wanted to pull a gun on someone, at least not since quitting ambulance work 40 years ago. I would be better off carrying a spare crank arm since I've broken more cranks than encountered homicidal tramps.

BTW, I inherited a .32 cal Browning 1910 that was taken off a Japanese officer in WWII (they loved the Brownings). The thing weighs like a pound and a half -- and its small. I can get a Time frame that weighs less than that gun. If I got a gun, I'd want super light-weight one -- with features that would make it otherwise useful, like a fold out pocket tool and maybe GPS. I'd want to talk to my gun -- "gun, call home." "Gun, shoot tramp." "Gun, call lawyer." "Gun, plot course to Mexico."

When I stopped to fix a tire, black people would come up and offer to help in any way they could. So I don't have any troubles with fear.

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:09:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:12:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

While someone like Frank might hurry his own death along by trying to walk the streets of Oakland I have people offering help whenever they believe they can be of some.

Last Wednesday I was talking to a rich man, like most rich a large part was inherited. His Grandmother had a farm in the bay area not long after the civil war when food was big business. And also like most rich he spreads it around as much as possible. He is a surgeon and works for Doctors without Borders. He works mostly in Africa and he talked about how much healthier African Children are than Americans because their immune systems are under constant challenge. Perhaps this is the reason that I have such good health. Traipsing through the salt marshes when I was a kid. I suppose a large part of these marshes were formed as part of the run-off from the cities which could not have been very healthy.

We discussed the idea that a cloth mask could possibly even slow down a molecule like a virus and we both got a good laugh out of that (I suppose that he definitely would not fall under Frank's category of "medical expert" I have the distinct impression that what Frank thinks of as an expert is anyone that sits on their ass and reads an occasional study. Frank appears to be unaware that most studies are absolute garbage but then I suppose that is what he taught in college. Poor students. Though they probably learned the art of engineering by practice and not by his meanderings.

Virtually everything that has been visited upon this country by the Democrats has been a virtual curse. While walking through those salt marshes I was accompanied by an American kid of Japanese extraction. He grew up in Roosevelt's concentration camps. These were formed in large part so that Roosevelt who was one of the most racist people that ever lived could allow his friends to seize the property of the Japanese/Americans who were rather prosperous up to that time.

Exactly what do you suppose goes through the head of a man who has a large guaranteed income when he would tell the working man that he cannot work and cannot provide for his family and must do insane things like wear a mask in public unless he is robbing a bank? Social distancing is much like wearing a mask - an infected person has a cloud of virus molecules surrounding his head and contrary to the highly educated Dr. Fauci's thoughts, these thing do not fall to the ground like a brick dropped off a building. They float pretty much in place in a stream along which you are walking. That means that someone could pass through that very slowly dispersing cloud minutes after you have passed and be exposed.

The entire Democrat Party has retained some small remnants of power though the constant threats and fear. Awful environmental impact that is barely measurable, man-made climate change that doesn't exist and now a virus that is virtually harmless.

No doubt you are correct and the figures prove it. The U.S. is leading
the world!

In the larger countries, with a population of 200 million or more, the
U.S. is head and shoulders above the rest with 3,085,705 cases of the
virus, some 3 times the next highest country; 133,808 deaths, double
the numbers of the next closest country;404 deaths per million - y'all
are slipping a bit here, only about 30% higher and 9,321/million
cases, again slipping back to only about 1-1/4 times the next highest
country.

Just think, 50% more deaths due to the Virus than all of the U.S.'s
military deaths in the past 70 years, from the Korean war to the
present.


--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:11:35 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:16:27 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 4:13 PM, sms wrote:
On 7/3/2020 12:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes. I'd have to reach around to my jersey
pocket, and any decent gun would probably stretch the hell
out of it. I need the Garmin gun mount.

-- Jay Beattie.

The driver brought a knife to a gun fight.

This reminds me of visiting my family in Florida one year.
There was a TV news story about a woman who had dropped her
purse in Publix (a supermarket) and her gun had gone off.
The news crew was interviewing other women shoppers about
the incident. The women were criticizing the shopper with
the errant gun for bringing the wrong type of gun to the
supermarket, and were showing the news crews their own guns.


When I worked in Texas, women commonly drove their pickups
to the grocery with a rifle in the rack (and likely
something in the purse as well). Can't recall any incidents
with either.

But consider - no one stole those racked rifles while Mom was in the store. That was something you just didn't do. Now it would be expected.

Tommy, you are right up full of the brown stuff. I lived in N.
Louisiana, right on the Louisiana-Texas border, during the period that
gun racks in the pickup back window were popular and guns certainly
were stolen. I worked in a gunsmith shop and we got a weekly police
circular with make, model and where known, serial numbers, lists of
stolen guns, just as did pin shops and other establishments that
bought and sold firearms.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 7/7/2020 4:09 PM, wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:12:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

While someone like Frank might hurry his own death along by trying to walk the streets of Oakland I have people offering help whenever they believe they can be of some.

Last Wednesday I was talking to a rich man, like most rich a large part was inherited. His Grandmother had a farm in the bay area not long after the civil war when food was big business. And also like most rich he spreads it around as much as possible. He is a surgeon and works for Doctors without Borders. He works mostly in Africa and he talked about how much healthier African Children are than Americans because their immune systems are under constant challenge. Perhaps this is the reason that I have such good health. Traipsing through the salt marshes when I was a kid. I suppose a large part of these marshes were formed as part of the run-off from the cities which could not have been very healthy.

We discussed the idea that a cloth mask could possibly even slow down a molecule like a virus and we both got a good laugh out of that (I suppose that he definitely would not fall under Frank's category of "medical expert" I have the distinct impression that what Frank thinks of as an expert is anyone that sits on their ass and reads an occasional study. Frank appears to be unaware that most studies are absolute garbage but then I suppose that is what he taught in college. Poor students. Though they probably learned the art of engineering by practice and not by his meanderings.

Virtually everything that has been visited upon this country by the Democrats has been a virtual curse. While walking through those salt marshes I was accompanied by an American kid of Japanese extraction. He grew up in Roosevelt's concentration camps. These were formed in large part so that Roosevelt who was one of the most racist people that ever lived could allow his friends to seize the property of the Japanese/Americans who were rather prosperous up to that time.

Exactly what do you suppose goes through the head of a man who has a large guaranteed income when he would tell the working man that he cannot work and cannot provide for his family and must do insane things like wear a mask in public unless he is robbing a bank? Social distancing is much like wearing a mask - an infected person has a cloud of virus molecules surrounding his head and contrary to the highly educated Dr. Fauci's thoughts, these thing do not fall to the ground like a brick dropped off a building. They float pretty much in place in a stream along which you are walking. That means that someone could pass through that very slowly dispersing cloud minutes after you have passed and be exposed.

The entire Democrat Party has retained some small remnants of power though the constant threats and fear. Awful environmental impact that is barely measurable, man-made climate change that doesn't exist and now a virus that is virtually harmless.

You still haven't explained why the people with recognized expertise and
authority in hundreds of countries disagree with you.

Nor why you're wasting your time and ours posting your, um, wisdom here.
Why are you not talking directly to the orange guy with the weird blonde
hair?

Won't he listen to you? Why not?


--
- Frank Krygowski

John B. writes:

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:09:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:12:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

While someone like Frank might hurry his own death along by trying to
walk the streets of Oakland I have people offering help whenever
they believe they can be of some.

Last Wednesday I was talking to a rich man, like most rich a large
part was inherited. His Grandmother had a farm in the bay area not
long after the civil war when food was big business. And also like
most rich he spreads it around as much as possible. He is a surgeon
and works for Doctors without Borders. He works mostly in Africa and
he talked about how much healthier African Children are than
Americans because their immune systems are under constant
challenge. Perhaps this is the reason that I have such good
health. Traipsing through the salt marshes when I was a kid. I
suppose a large part of these marshes were formed as part of the
run-off from the cities which could not have been very healthy.

We discussed the idea that a cloth mask could possibly even slow down
a molecule like a virus and we both got a good laugh out of that (I
suppose that he definitely would not fall under Frank's category of
"medical expert" I have the distinct impression that what Frank
thinks of as an expert is anyone that sits on their ass and reads an
occasional study. Frank appears to be unaware that most studies are
absolute garbage but then I suppose that is what he taught in
college. Poor students. Though they probably learned the art of
engineering by practice and not by his meanderings.

Virtually everything that has been visited upon this country by the
Democrats has been a virtual curse. While walking through those salt
marshes I was accompanied by an American kid of Japanese
extraction. He grew up in Roosevelt's concentration camps. These
were formed in large part so that Roosevelt who was one of the most
racist people that ever lived could allow his friends to seize the
property of the Japanese/Americans who were rather prosperous up to
that time.

Exactly what do you suppose goes through the head of a man who has a
large guaranteed income when he would tell the working man that he
cannot work and cannot provide for his family and must do insane
things like wear a mask in public unless he is robbing a bank?
Social distancing is much like wearing a mask - an infected person
has a cloud of virus molecules surrounding his head and contrary to
the highly educated Dr. Fauci's thoughts, these thing do not fall to
the ground like a brick dropped off a building. They float pretty
much in place in a stream along which you are walking. That means
that someone could pass through that very slowly dispersing cloud
minutes after you have passed and be exposed.

The entire Democrat Party has retained some small remnants of power
though the constant threats and fear. Awful environmental impact
that is barely measurable, man-made climate change that doesn't
exist and now a virus that is virtually harmless.

No doubt you are correct and the figures prove it. The U.S. is leading
the world!

In the larger countries, with a population of 200 million or more, the
U.S. is head and shoulders above the rest with 3,085,705 cases of the
virus, some 3 times the next highest country; 133,808 deaths, double
the numbers of the next closest country;404 deaths per million - y'all
are slipping a bit here, only about 30% higher and 9,321/million
cases, again slipping back to only about 1-1/4 times the next highest
country.

Just think, 50% more deaths due to the Virus than all of the U.S.'s
military deaths in the past 70 years, from the Korean war to the
present.

But not much more, and less per capita, than died in the pandemics of 1957
and 1968.

On Tue, 07 Jul 2020 21:37:47 -0400, Radey Shouman
wrote:

John B. writes:

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:09:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:12:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

While someone like Frank might hurry his own death along by trying to
walk the streets of Oakland I have people offering help whenever
they believe they can be of some.

Last Wednesday I was talking to a rich man, like most rich a large
part was inherited. His Grandmother had a farm in the bay area not
long after the civil war when food was big business. And also like
most rich he spreads it around as much as possible. He is a surgeon
and works for Doctors without Borders. He works mostly in Africa and
he talked about how much healthier African Children are than
Americans because their immune systems are under constant
challenge. Perhaps this is the reason that I have such good
health. Traipsing through the salt marshes when I was a kid. I
suppose a large part of these marshes were formed as part of the
run-off from the cities which could not have been very healthy.

We discussed the idea that a cloth mask could possibly even slow down
a molecule like a virus and we both got a good laugh out of that (I
suppose that he definitely would not fall under Frank's category of
"medical expert" I have the distinct impression that what Frank
thinks of as an expert is anyone that sits on their ass and reads an
occasional study. Frank appears to be unaware that most studies are
absolute garbage but then I suppose that is what he taught in
college. Poor students. Though they probably learned the art of
engineering by practice and not by his meanderings.

Virtually everything that has been visited upon this country by the
Democrats has been a virtual curse. While walking through those salt
marshes I was accompanied by an American kid of Japanese
extraction. He grew up in Roosevelt's concentration camps. These
were formed in large part so that Roosevelt who was one of the most
racist people that ever lived could allow his friends to seize the
property of the Japanese/Americans who were rather prosperous up to
that time.

Exactly what do you suppose goes through the head of a man who has a
large guaranteed income when he would tell the working man that he
cannot work and cannot provide for his family and must do insane
things like wear a mask in public unless he is robbing a bank?
Social distancing is much like wearing a mask - an infected person
has a cloud of virus molecules surrounding his head and contrary to
the highly educated Dr. Fauci's thoughts, these thing do not fall to
the ground like a brick dropped off a building. They float pretty
much in place in a stream along which you are walking. That means
that someone could pass through that very slowly dispersing cloud
minutes after you have passed and be exposed.

The entire Democrat Party has retained some small remnants of power
though the constant threats and fear. Awful environmental impact
that is barely measurable, man-made climate change that doesn't
exist and now a virus that is virtually harmless.

No doubt you are correct and the figures prove it. The U.S. is leading
the world!

In the larger countries, with a population of 200 million or more, the
U.S. is head and shoulders above the rest with 3,085,705 cases of the
virus, some 3 times the next highest country; 133,808 deaths, double
the numbers of the next closest country;404 deaths per million - y'all
are slipping a bit here, only about 30% higher and 9,321/million
cases, again slipping back to only about 1-1/4 times the next highest
country.

Just think, 50% more deaths due to the Virus than all of the U.S.'s
military deaths in the past 70 years, from the Korean war to the
present.

But not much more, and less per capita, than died in the pandemics of 1957
and 1968.

I read that "by March 1958 an estimated 69,800 deaths had occurred in
the United States". I find US population of 177.75 million in 1957
which would make it 392/million deaths.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...tes/population
--
Cheers,

John B.

John B. writes:

On Tue, 07 Jul 2020 21:37:47 -0400, Radey Shouman
wrote:

John B. writes:

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:09:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:12:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

While someone like Frank might hurry his own death along by trying to
walk the streets of Oakland I have people offering help whenever
they believe they can be of some.

Last Wednesday I was talking to a rich man, like most rich a large
part was inherited. His Grandmother had a farm in the bay area not
long after the civil war when food was big business. And also like
most rich he spreads it around as much as possible. He is a surgeon
and works for Doctors without Borders. He works mostly in Africa and
he talked about how much healthier African Children are than
Americans because their immune systems are under constant
challenge. Perhaps this is the reason that I have such good
health. Traipsing through the salt marshes when I was a kid. I
suppose a large part of these marshes were formed as part of the
run-off from the cities which could not have been very healthy.

We discussed the idea that a cloth mask could possibly even slow down
a molecule like a virus and we both got a good laugh out of that (I
suppose that he definitely would not fall under Frank's category of
"medical expert" I have the distinct impression that what Frank
thinks of as an expert is anyone that sits on their ass and reads an
occasional study. Frank appears to be unaware that most studies are
absolute garbage but then I suppose that is what he taught in
college. Poor students. Though they probably learned the art of
engineering by practice and not by his meanderings.

Virtually everything that has been visited upon this country by the
Democrats has been a virtual curse. While walking through those salt
marshes I was accompanied by an American kid of Japanese
extraction. He grew up in Roosevelt's concentration camps. These
were formed in large part so that Roosevelt who was one of the most
racist people that ever lived could allow his friends to seize the
property of the Japanese/Americans who were rather prosperous up to
that time.

Exactly what do you suppose goes through the head of a man who has a
large guaranteed income when he would tell the working man that he
cannot work and cannot provide for his family and must do insane
things like wear a mask in public unless he is robbing a bank?
Social distancing is much like wearing a mask - an infected person
has a cloud of virus molecules surrounding his head and contrary to
the highly educated Dr. Fauci's thoughts, these thing do not fall to
the ground like a brick dropped off a building. They float pretty
much in place in a stream along which you are walking. That means
that someone could pass through that very slowly dispersing cloud
minutes after you have passed and be exposed.

The entire Democrat Party has retained some small remnants of power
though the constant threats and fear. Awful environmental impact
that is barely measurable, man-made climate change that doesn't
exist and now a virus that is virtually harmless.

No doubt you are correct and the figures prove it. The U.S. is leading
the world!

In the larger countries, with a population of 200 million or more, the
U.S. is head and shoulders above the rest with 3,085,705 cases of the
virus, some 3 times the next highest country; 133,808 deaths, double
the numbers of the next closest country;404 deaths per million - y'all
are slipping a bit here, only about 30% higher and 9,321/million
cases, again slipping back to only about 1-1/4 times the next highest
country.

Just think, 50% more deaths due to the Virus than all of the U.S.'s
military deaths in the past 70 years, from the Korean war to the
present.

But not much more, and less per capita, than died in the pandemics of 1957
and 1968.

I read that "by March 1958 an estimated 69,800 deaths had occurred in
the United States". I find US population of 177.75 million in 1957
which would make it 392/million deaths.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...tes/population

The CDC claims 116,000 US deaths, and 1.1 million worldwide:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...-pandemic.html

That is for a significantly longer period than the covids have had so far.