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Old July 5th 20, 05:16 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Elderly man critically ill in hospital after being struck by cyclist

On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 5:08:40 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 16:05:58 GMT, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 4:25:28 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Which part of...

Assuming the cyclist was at fault, a typical Nugent failing

..did you fail to comprehend?


QUOTE:
The Road Traffic Act 1988 requires a ***driver*** to stop if an
accident has occurred due to the presence of their vehicle that
results in injury to another person, livestock animal, dog, or damage
to another's property. The ****driver**** must then give their name
and address at the scene to anyone reasonably requiring it, and if
there has been an injury to another person, they must produce their
****certificate of insurance**** to anyone reasonably requiring it.
Anyone failing to stop or provide such details must report the
incident in person to a police station or police constable as soon as
practicable, and in all cases within 24 hours.[23][24]

Failing to stop, and failing to report, carry a maximum sentence of 6
months in imprisonment, a £5000 fine and a ****driving**** ban ENDS

Where was the driver in all of this?

You're getting as blinkeredly legalistic as Nugent. Stop it.


Since he has been in my killfile for over 10 years, I cannot be accused of mimicking that entity's rantings as I don't read his tripe.

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  #12  
Old July 5th 20, 05:25 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Elderly man critically ill in hospital after being struck bycyclist

On 05/07/2020 17:05, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 4:25:28 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Which part of...

Assuming the cyclist was at fault, a typical Nugent failing

..did you fail to comprehend?


QUOTE:
The Road Traffic Act 1988 requires a ***driver*** to stop if an accident has occurred due to the presence of their vehicle that results in injury to another person, livestock animal, dog, or damage to another's property. The ****driver**** must then give their name and address at the scene to anyone reasonably requiring it, and if there has been an injury to another person, they must produce their ****certificate of insurance**** to anyone reasonably requiring it. Anyone failing to stop or provide such details must report the incident in person to a police station or police constable as soon as practicable, and in all cases within 24 hours.[23][24]

Failing to stop, and failing to report, carry a maximum sentence of 6 months in imprisonment, a £5000 fine and a ****driving**** ban
ENDS

Where was the driver in all of this?


So cyclists feel free to kill ot maim vulnerable pedestrians and then
scarper.

We knew that already.
  #13  
Old July 5th 20, 05:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Kerr-Mudd,John[_2_]
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Default Elderly man critically ill in hospital after being struck by cyclist

On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 16:25:06 GMT, JNugent
wrote:

On 05/07/2020 17:05, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 4:25:28 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Which part of...

Assuming the cyclist was at fault, a typical Nugent failing

..did you fail to comprehend?


QUOTE:
The Road Traffic Act 1988 requires a ***driver*** to stop if an
accident has occurred due to the presence of their vehicle that
results in injury to another person, livestock animal, dog, or damage
to another's property. The ****driver**** must then give their name
and address at the scene to anyone reasonably requiring it, and if
there has been an injury to another person, they must produce their
****certificate of insurance**** to anyone reasonably requiring it.
Anyone failing to stop or provide such details must report the
incident in person to a police station or police constable as soon as
practicable, and in all cases within 24 hours.[23][24]

Failing to stop, and failing to report, carry a maximum sentence of 6
months in imprisonment, a £5000 fine and a ****driving**** ban ENDS

Where was the driver in all of this?


So cyclists feel free to kill ot maim vulnerable pedestrians and then
scarper.


You are generalising wildly but -

We knew that already.




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Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
  #14  
Old July 5th 20, 06:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mike Collins
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Default Elderly man critically ill in hospital after being struck by cyclist

On Sunday, 5 July 2020 16:39:13 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2020 16:25, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 5 July 2020 14:37:11 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2020 07:59, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 5 July 2020 00:23:38 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2020 10:32, Simon Mason wrote:

There seems too be a lot of careless road crossers out there.
GET OFF YOUR MOBILES!
QUOTE:
An elderly man is fighting for his life after being knocked down by a cyclist.

Police were called to Bow Road in Tower Hamlets to reports of a collision involving a cyclist and a pedestrian. The man, aged in his 70s, was treated by paramedics at the scene before being taken to hospital.

Officers from Met Police are now attempting to contact members of his family.

The cyclist did not stop at the scene, near to Thames Magistrates Court, following the collision at just after 5pm on Friday.

Police confirmed detectives are investigating and said the man was critically ill in hospital.

A spokesman said: "The pedestrian was treated by London Ambulance Service at the scene before being taken to hospital. "Police are attempting to inform next of kin.

"The rider of the bicycle did not stop at the scene. Enquiries to locate this person are ongoing."

Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are asking any witnesses, or those with dash cam footage, to call 208 597 4874, or 101 with the reference number CAD 5779/3 July.

https://www.mylondon.news/news/east-...pital-18540318

Blaming the pedestrian victim... a typical arrogant cyclist failing.

Assuming the cyclist was at fault, a typical Nugent failing.

Which bit of...

"The rider of the bicycle did not stop at the scene. Enquiries to locate
this person are ongoing"

...did you fail to comprehend?

Has the cyclist yet come forward in the public-sprited way you imagine
cyclists all behave?

A "Yes" or "No" will suffice.

But no... you prefer to blame the septuagenarian victim.


Which part of...

Assuming the cyclist was at fault, a typical Nugent failing


I assume nothing.


So you agree there is no evidence the pedestrian was the victim. I assume you will be retracting your previous post.
  #15  
Old July 5th 20, 06:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Elderly man critically ill in hospital after being struck by cyclist

On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 6:30:49 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

So you agree there is no evidence the pedestrian was the victim. I assume you will be retracting your previous post.


The pedestrian could have been on a mobile (not unusual these days) and blindly walked out into the road in front of the cyclist and knocked him off. Then who is the victim?
  #16  
Old July 5th 20, 07:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Elderly man critically ill in hospital after being struck bycyclist

On 05/07/2020 17:29, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 16:25:06 GMT, JNugent
wrote:

On 05/07/2020 17:05, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 4:25:28 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Which part of...

Assuming the cyclist was at fault, a typical Nugent failing

..did you fail to comprehend?

QUOTE:
The Road Traffic Act 1988 requires a ***driver*** to stop if an
accident has occurred due to the presence of their vehicle that
results in injury to another person, livestock animal, dog, or damage
to another's property. The ****driver**** must then give their name
and address at the scene to anyone reasonably requiring it, and if
there has been an injury to another person, they must produce their
****certificate of insurance**** to anyone reasonably requiring it.
Anyone failing to stop or provide such details must report the
incident in person to a police station or police constable as soon as
practicable, and in all cases within 24 hours.[23][24]

Failing to stop, and failing to report, carry a maximum sentence of 6
months in imprisonment, a £5000 fine and a ****driving**** ban ENDS

Where was the driver in all of this?


So cyclists feel free to kill ot maim vulnerable pedestrians and then
scarper.


You are generalising wildly but -


....my remarks were along the right lines?
  #17  
Old July 5th 20, 07:24 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Elderly man critically ill in hospital after being struck bycyclist

On 05/07/2020 18:30, Mike Collins wrote:

On Sunday, 5 July 2020 16:39:13 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2020 16:25, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 5 July 2020 14:37:11 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2020 07:59, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 5 July 2020 00:23:38 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2020 10:32, Simon Mason wrote:

There seems too be a lot of careless road crossers out there.


GET OFF YOUR MOBILES!
QUOTE:
An elderly man is fighting for his life after being knocked down by a cyclist.

Police were called to Bow Road in Tower Hamlets to reports of a collision involving a cyclist and a pedestrian. The man, aged in his 70s, was treated by paramedics at the scene before being taken to hospital.

Officers from Met Police are now attempting to contact members of his family.

The cyclist did not stop at the scene, near to Thames Magistrates Court, following the collision at just after 5pm on Friday.

Police confirmed detectives are investigating and said the man was critically ill in hospital.

A spokesman said: "The pedestrian was treated by London Ambulance Service at the scene before being taken to hospital. "Police are attempting to inform next of kin.

"The rider of the bicycle did not stop at the scene. Enquiries to locate this person are ongoing."

Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are asking any witnesses, or those with dash cam footage, to call 208 597 4874, or 101 with the reference number CAD 5779/3 July.

https://www.mylondon.news/news/east-...pital-18540318

Blaming the pedestrian victim... a typical arrogant cyclist failing.

Assuming the cyclist was at fault, a typical Nugent failing.

Which bit of...

"The rider of the bicycle did not stop at the scene. Enquiries to locate
this person are ongoing"

...did you fail to comprehend?

Has the cyclist yet come forward in the public-sprited way you imagine
cyclists all behave?

A "Yes" or "No" will suffice.

But no... you prefer to blame the septuagenarian victim.

Which part of...

Assuming the cyclist was at fault, a typical Nugent failing


I assume nothing.


So you agree there is no evidence the pedestrian was the victim. I assume you will be retracting your previous post.


You reckon the absconding cyclist was the victim and the
critically-injured elderly and vulnerable gentleman fighting for his
life in hospital was the aggressor? Is that it?

So why hasn't the cyclist come forward to say so?

As I had already asked you, hass the cyclist yet come forward in the
public-sprited way you imagine cyclists all behave?

A "Yes" or "No" will suffice - and will tell us all we need to know.

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Old July 5th 20, 07:25 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Elderly man critically ill in hospital after being struck by cyclist

On 05/07/2020 18:38, Simon Mason wrote:

On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 6:30:49 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

So you agree there is no evidence the pedestrian was the victim. I assume you will be retracting your previous post.


The pedestrian could have been on a mobile (not unusual these days) and blindly walked out into the road in front of the cyclist and knocked him off. Then who is the victim?


Deal with the facts as known.

Not with your imaginary visions.
  #19  
Old July 5th 20, 07:44 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Elderly man critically ill in hospital after being struck by cyclist

On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 6:38:08 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 6:30:49 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

So you agree there is no evidence the pedestrian was the victim. I assume you will be retracting your previous post.


The pedestrian could have been on a mobile (not unusual these days) and blindly walked out into the road in front of the cyclist and knocked him off. Then who is the victim?


It appears that Bow Road has Cycling Superhighway Nr 2 running along it which is segregated and next to the footway. See.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcLueMhX...pg&name=medium

The pedestrian may have mistakenly assumed that the pavement /included/ CS2 and walked to the edge of it without checking for cycle traffic beforehand and knocked the cyclist off. Happens a lot on the continent.
  #20  
Old July 5th 20, 09:22 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mike Collins
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Default Elderly man critically ill in hospital after being struck by cyclist

On Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:23:56 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2020 18:30, Mike Collins wrote:

On Sunday, 5 July 2020 16:39:13 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2020 16:25, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 5 July 2020 14:37:11 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2020 07:59, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 5 July 2020 00:23:38 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2020 10:32, Simon Mason wrote:

There seems too be a lot of careless road crossers out there.


GET OFF YOUR MOBILES!
QUOTE:
An elderly man is fighting for his life after being knocked down by a cyclist.

Police were called to Bow Road in Tower Hamlets to reports of a collision involving a cyclist and a pedestrian. The man, aged in his 70s, was treated by paramedics at the scene before being taken to hospital.

Officers from Met Police are now attempting to contact members of his family.

The cyclist did not stop at the scene, near to Thames Magistrates Court, following the collision at just after 5pm on Friday.

Police confirmed detectives are investigating and said the man was critically ill in hospital.

A spokesman said: "The pedestrian was treated by London Ambulance Service at the scene before being taken to hospital. "Police are attempting to inform next of kin.

"The rider of the bicycle did not stop at the scene. Enquiries to locate this person are ongoing."

Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are asking any witnesses, or those with dash cam footage, to call 208 597 4874, or 101 with the reference number CAD 5779/3 July.

https://www.mylondon.news/news/east-...pital-18540318

Blaming the pedestrian victim... a typical arrogant cyclist failing.

Assuming the cyclist was at fault, a typical Nugent failing.

Which bit of...

"The rider of the bicycle did not stop at the scene. Enquiries to locate
this person are ongoing"

...did you fail to comprehend?

Has the cyclist yet come forward in the public-sprited way you imagine
cyclists all behave?

A "Yes" or "No" will suffice.

But no... you prefer to blame the septuagenarian victim.

Which part of...

Assuming the cyclist was at fault, a typical Nugent failing

I assume nothing.


So you agree there is no evidence the pedestrian was the victim. I assume you will be retracting your previous post.


You reckon the absconding cyclist was the victim


Where did I say that?

 




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