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Old March 25th 13, 11:41 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_3_]
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Default RIP the 81 year old mown down on a crossing by a cyclist

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103


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Old March 25th 13, 12:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Major Scott
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


Why? Death by recklessness would cover it. If I do something really stupid which causes you to die, but it doesn't involve a bicycle or a car, I'd still get prosecuted. Why have seperate laws for everything?

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103


It takes two to cause an accident.

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Old March 25th 13, 12:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Major Scott
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Default RIP the 81 year old mown down on a crossing by a cyclist

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103


And drivers never cause accidents do they?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21922373

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Old March 25th 13, 12:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Weissel
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Default RIP the 81 year old mown down on a crossing by a cyclist

On 25/03/2013 10:41, Mrcheerful wrote:
"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103



This might help

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...rnment-support

Quote:

The plans have been criticised by cycling groups who argue such deaths
are so rare that a new law is unnecessary, as well as a distraction from
a far bigger threat to pedestrians posed by cars. In 2009, the last year
for which road death statistics have been collated, no pedestrians were
killed by cyclists whereas 426 died in collisions with motor vehicles.

"Currently, only around 25% of road deaths are prosecuted using causing
death by careless or dangerous, or causing death while under the
influence of drugs or alcohol. We have recorded dozens of cases where
the deaths of vulnerable users, including many cyclists, are simply
never prosecuted".

But the national cycling group, the CTC, argues this [new law] is
unnecessary given that courts have used the 1861 act in the last decade
to jail two cyclists who killed pedestrians, while drivers who kill
cyclists routinely receive non-custodial sentences.
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Old March 25th 13, 12:41 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Weissel
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Default RIP the 81 year old mown down on a crossing by a cyclist

On 25/03/2013 11:32, Major Scott wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103


And drivers never cause accidents do they?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21922373


Better training and higher licensing standards would help.

How in the world do you manage to stick a car through a house like this
unless you are driving like a complete ****?

Luckily there were no pedestrians or crossings around ...
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Old March 25th 13, 12:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Major Scott
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Default RIP the 81 year old mown down on a crossing by a cyclist

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:41:33 -0000, Simon Weissel wrote:

On 25/03/2013 11:32, Major Scott wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103


And drivers never cause accidents do they?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21922373


Better training and higher licensing standards would help.

How in the world do you manage to stick a car through a house like this
unless you are driving like a complete ****?

Luckily there were no pedestrians or crossings around ...


Maybe he was swerving to avoid a pedestrian. Pedestrians are a nuisance, they never look.

Having said that I'd never swerve round a pedestrian. If someone walks in front of my car, it's up to the brakes to stop me in time, if they don't, tough. I'm not going to risk crashing into innocent people who had nothing to do with it.

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Old March 25th 13, 01:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Old March 25th 13, 01:25 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default RIP the 81 year old mown down on a crossing by a cyclist

On 25/03/2013 11:23, Major Scott wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


Why? Death by recklessness would cover it. If I do something really
stupid which causes you to die, but it doesn't involve a bicycle or a
car, I'd still get prosecuted.


Not necessarily.

You may be thinking of manslaughter, but that does not apply in every
case of simple negligence or misadventure.

Why have seperate laws for everything?


In order to make it easier to prosecute, of course.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103

It takes two to cause an accident.


It doesn't.

It might sometimes fall out that way, but not always.
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Old March 25th 13, 01:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default RIP the 81 year old mown down on a crossing by a cyclist

On 25/03/2013 11:32, Major Scott wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103


And drivers never cause accidents do they?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21922373


If they do, they can be prosecuted and they can pay compensation.
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Old March 25th 13, 01:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default RIP the 81 year old mown down on a crossing by a cyclist

On 25/03/2013 11:37, Simon Weissel wrote:
On 25/03/2013 10:41, Mrcheerful wrote:
"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103


This might help
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...rnment-support

[quote]

The plans have been criticised by cycling groups who argue such deaths
are so rare that a new law is unnecessary, as well as a distraction from
a far bigger threat to pedestrians posed by cars. In 2009, the last year
for which road death statistics have been collated, no pedestrians were
killed by cyclists whereas 426 died in collisions with motor vehicles.


Have you ever encountered the phrase "self-serving"?

In other news, the British Incorporated Society of Burglars, Muggers,
Robbers and Bank-Heist Operatives (Amalgamated) is set to argue that
there is no need for the Theft Act, since hardly anyone is ever harmed
during their operations, and the few who are are asking for it anyway.
 




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