Cycling maybe not so healthy after all!

URCM brings us the sad story of a sixty year old man, who was a
regular cyclist, dying of a heart attack during a ride. According to
Chapman, Ravin & Co, he should have lived to be at least 90 because
cycling keeps you so slim, fit and healthy, provided that you don't
get killed earlier in life by an errant driver that is.

Derek C

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On 01/01/2011 22:23, Derek C wrote:
URCM brings us the sad story of a sixty year old man, who was a
regular cyclist, dying of a heart attack during a ride. According to
Chapman, Ravin & Co, he should have lived to be at least 90 because
cycling keeps you so slim, fit and healthy, provided that you don't
get killed earlier in life by an errant driver that is.

Do feel free to give the message IDs where any of us said that the well
documented increase in average life expectancy conferred by cycling is
applicable in the specific case of every single cyclist.

I know you will take a while as you have a long backlog of vector
diagrams and message IDs to provide. Perhaps you should refrain from
adding any more in the mean time. The safest course would be not to
post, since you seem to be unable to do so without unforced errors.

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On Jan 1, 10:37*pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
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On 01/01/2011 22:23, Derek C wrote:

URCM brings us the sad story of a sixty year old man, who was a
regular cyclist, dying of a heart attack during a ride. *According to
Chapman, Ravin & Co, he should have lived to be at least 90 because
cycling keeps you so slim, fit and healthy, provided that you don't
get killed earlier in life by an errant driver that is.

Do feel free to give the message IDs where any of us said that the well
documented increase in average life expectancy conferred by cycling is
applicable in the specific case of every single cyclist.

I know you will take a while as you have a long backlog of vector
diagrams and message IDs to provide. Perhaps you should refrain from
adding any more in the mean time. The safest course would be not to
post, since you seem to be unable to do so without unforced errors.

- --
Guy Chapman,http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

Guy, You have frequently claimed in a number of threads relating to
cycling casualties, that they are more than made up for by the
increased life expectancy of cyclists, because they are less likely to
be obese and unfit than the general population. As usual you are
playing semantic games and trying to cloud the issues. The unfortunate
cyclist failed to make the expected minimum of three score years and
ten.

Derek C

On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 14:23:55 -0800 (PST), Derek C
wrote:

URCM brings us the sad story of a sixty year old man, who was a
regular cyclist, dying of a heart attack during a ride. According to
Chapman, Ravin & Co, he should have lived to be at least 90 because
cycling keeps you so slim, fit and healthy, provided that you don't
get killed earlier in life by an errant driver that is.

Derek C


My thoughts are with his family.

On 01/01/2011 23:37, Derek C wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:37 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
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On 01/01/2011 22:23, Derek C wrote:

URCM brings us the sad story of a sixty year old man, who was a
regular cyclist, dying of a heart attack during a ride. According to
Chapman, Ravin& Co, he should have lived to be at least 90 because
cycling keeps you so slim, fit and healthy, provided that you don't
get killed earlier in life by an errant driver that is.

Do feel free to give the message IDs where any of us said that the well
documented increase in average life expectancy conferred by cycling is
applicable in the specific case of every single cyclist.

I know you will take a while as you have a long backlog of vector
diagrams and message IDs to provide. Perhaps you should refrain from
adding any more in the mean time. The safest course would be not to
post, since you seem to be unable to do so without unforced errors.

- --
Guy Chapman,http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

Guy, You have frequently claimed in a number of threads relating to
cycling casualties, that they are more than made up for by the
increased life expectancy of cyclists, because they are less likely to
be obese and unfit than the general population. As usual you are
playing semantic games and trying to cloud the issues. The unfortunate
cyclist failed to make the expected minimum of three score years and
ten.

We can add statistics to the list...

On 01/01/11 23:37, Derek C wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:37 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
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On 01/01/2011 22:23, Derek C wrote:

URCM brings us the sad story of a sixty year old man, who was a
regular cyclist, dying of a heart attack during a ride. According to
Chapman, Ravin& Co, he should have lived to be at least 90 because
cycling keeps you so slim, fit and healthy, provided that you don't
get killed earlier in life by an errant driver that is.

Do feel free to give the message IDs where any of us said that the well
documented increase in average life expectancy conferred by cycling is
applicable in the specific case of every single cyclist.

I know you will take a while as you have a long backlog of vector
diagrams and message IDs to provide. Perhaps you should refrain from
adding any more in the mean time. The safest course would be not to
post, since you seem to be unable to do so without unforced errors.

- --
Guy Chapman,http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

Guy, You have frequently claimed in a number of threads relating to
cycling casualties, that they are more than made up for by the
increased life expectancy of cyclists, because they are less likely to
be obese and unfit than the general population. As usual you are
playing semantic games and trying to cloud the issues. The unfortunate
cyclist failed to make the expected minimum of three score years and
ten.

Derek C


You do appreciate the difference between a population average and an
individual sample from that population?

What you are saying here is analogous to trying to imply that England
does not have a temperate climate because the temperature reached -26.1C
in Cumbria on the 22nd December 2010.

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On 01/01/2011 23:37, Derek C wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:37 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
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On 01/01/2011 22:23, Derek C wrote:

URCM brings us the sad story of a sixty year old man, who was a
regular cyclist, dying of a heart attack during a ride. According to
Chapman, Ravin & Co, he should have lived to be at least 90 because
cycling keeps you so slim, fit and healthy, provided that you don't
get killed earlier in life by an errant driver that is.

Do feel free to give the message IDs where any of us said that the well
documented increase in average life expectancy conferred by cycling is
applicable in the specific case of every single cyclist.

I know you will take a while as you have a long backlog of vector
diagrams and message IDs to provide. Perhaps you should refrain from
adding any more in the mean time. The safest course would be not to
post, since you seem to be unable to do so without unforced errors.

- --
Guy Chapman,http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

Guy, You have frequently claimed in a number of threads relating to
cycling casualties, that they are more than made up for by the
increased life expectancy of cyclists, because they are less likely to
be obese and unfit than the general population.

Correct. The figure normally quoted is a 20:1 gain.

As usual you are
playing semantic games and trying to cloud the issues.

False. That is what *you* are doing. But of course you know that.

The unfortunate
cyclist failed to make the expected minimum of three score years and
ten.

Now please post the message IDs where any of those you mentioned have
claimed that the well-documented increased life expectancy that cycling
confers, is applicable in the specific case of every single cyclist, to
the point of guaranteeing any minimum life expectancy.

- --
Guy Chapman, http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
The usenet price promise: all opinions are guaranteed
to be worth at least what you paid for them.
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On Jan 1, 10:23*pm, Derek C wrote:
URCM brings us the sad story of a sixty year old man, who was a
regular cyclist, dying of a heart attack during a ride. *According to
Chapman, Ravin & Co, he should have lived to be at least 90 because
cycling keeps you so slim, fit and healthy, provided that you don't
get killed earlier in life by an errant driver that is.

Yes but if he had been a motorist he probably wouldn't have lived to
50 anyway.

Doug.

"Adam Lea" wrote in message
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On 01/01/11 23:37, Derek C wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:37 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:


Heavily snipped because of OP and the regulaor "fishes" who rise to the
bait every time!


Derek C


You do appreciate the difference between a population average and an
individual sample from that population?

What you are saying here is analogous to trying to imply that England does
not have a temperate climate because the temperature reached -26.1C in
Cumbria on the 22nd December 2010.



But I do annotate this topic with the obvious response thar J-z-G simply
cannot resist his addiction to troll wrestling.

(I also add the fact that both "Derek C" and Mr Chapman have long been
permanent residents in my sin bin.)

If you had not done the same the topic would not even have appeared on my
boards

--
From
Trevor A Panther
In South Yorkshire,
England, United Kingdom
www.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Derek C wrote:
URCM brings us the sad story of a sixty year old man, who was a
regular cyclist, dying of a heart attack during a ride. According to
Chapman, Ravin & Co, he should have lived to be at least 90 because
cycling keeps you so slim, fit and healthy, provided that you don't
get killed earlier in life by an errant driver that is.

Derek C

there are loads of them all the time:
only 48 :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...bike-ride.html

34:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...list-dies.html

50:
http://www.latestsportsbuzz.com/?p=6712

loads of them here, all died in races:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...uring_a_ra ce

21:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009...s-heart-attack

there was a 15 year old last week too.

must be healthy this cycling lark, if the cars don't get you, a heart attack
does.