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  #71  
Old September 2nd 11, 10:56 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Judith wrote:

Are they part of the BP organisation?


Try companies house if you want an answer.

Unless the JMS-monkey is flinging more ****.

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Old September 2nd 11, 11:22 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 02/09/2011 09:38, Simon Mason wrote:
This one caught my eye yesterday.

"A LEARNER driver has been banned from the roads for a year after
“jumping the gun” and bumping another car before sitting his test.
Teenager Steven Corbett drove the Ford Focus car which his family had
recently bought, Hartlepool Magistrates’ Court heard.

The 19-year-old was in Sydenham Road, in Belle Vue, Hartlepool, when
he was involved in a collision with another car, but did not stop to
exchange details with its driver. Prosecuting, Graeme Richardson told
justices that the other driver took down the registration plate and
contacted police following the incident which took place at 4.45pm on
April 5.

Unemployed Corbett, of Kent Avenue, also in Belle Vue, appeared in
court and pleaded guilty to driving while otherwise than in accordance
with a licence, driving without insurance and failing to stop after a
road accident. Mitigating, Adrian Morris said: “This is just a classic
case of immaturity. His family had come to a decision to buy the Ford
Focus, after they found the money to acquire it, with the intention
that Steven Corbett would learn to drive it.

“That would mean getting a provisional licence, using L plates and
getting a course of driving lessons.

“Regretfully he’s jumped the gun and he’s taken the car out and made a
decision to move out into the road without checking the mirrors
properly causing another vehicle to shunt. He’s then panicked and
driven off.”

Chairman of the bench John Glancey banned him from driving for 12
months, fined him £50, ordered him to pay £300 compensation, £40 costs
and a £15 victim surcharge."

http://www.peterleemail.co.uk/news/l...year_1_3729720


Financially, it looks as though he got off lightly.
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Old September 2nd 11, 11:43 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Drivers warned against swapping points, but new cameras will make it
more difficult.

QUOTE:

"One in 20 UK drivers would be willing to take the rap for a friend or
relative's penalty points to prevent him or her getting banned,
according to new research. In fact, about 300,000 motorists are
thought to have already done this over the last 10 years - even though
it is against the law. The figures, from LV= car insurance, also
reveal that 3,823,544 UK licence holders currently have some penalty
points on their records, with more than eight in 10 receiving those
points for driving too fast.

Motorists who are caught speeding receive three to 12 points per
conviction and anyone who has twelve points on their licence is
usually banned from driving.
Fortunately for many of those in this position, however, their friends
and family are prepared to step in and accept the points instead.
According to the research, two thirds of those who said they would
pretend to have been driving at the time if it meant the other person
keeping his or her licence, while more than half said they would do it
to prevent a friend or relative losing his or her job.

But despite many of the drivers who said they would consider this
course of action thinking that taking someone else's points is not a
serious crime, lying to the police is against the law and could land
you in serious trouble. Those who try to beat the points system in the
future may also find it harder to get away with it due to plans for
the roll-out of a new video speed gun. These new speed cameras record
a vehicle's speed and capture the driver on film, which can then be
matched against driving licence photos held by the DVLA.

John O'Roarke, managing director of LV= car insurance, said: "Penalty
points are designed to deter drivers from repeatedly breaking the law
and to penalise those who do. Police know that drivers take on points
and have direct access to the DVLA data where they can look at
anyone's driving record to compare photos. "Swapping points is more
serious than people realise and it will be much harder for them to get
away with it once the new speed cameras are rolled out."

http://www.walletpop.co.uk/2011/09/0...enalty-points/

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Old September 2nd 11, 08:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:56:10 +0100, bugbear
wrote:

Judith wrote:

Are they part of the BP organisation?


Try companies house if you want an answer.

Unless the JMS-monkey is flinging more ****.

BugBear

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Are they part of the BP organisation?

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Old September 3rd 11, 07:54 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Don't celebrate starting your new job with vodka.
Still, a 5 year ban will mean a lot of cycling instead.

http://www.jackbristol.com/news/bris...nk-limit-6682/

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Old September 3rd 11, 08:42 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 03/09/2011 07:54, Simon Mason wrote:

Don't celebrate starting your new job with vodka.
Still, a 5 year ban will mean a lot of cycling instead.


http://www.jackbristol.com/news/bris...nk-limit-6682/


Only four-and-a-half times over the limit after drinking a LITRE of vodka?
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Old September 3rd 11, 10:20 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Don't carry the evidence with you either.

"A DRINK-driver who sank four pints and a can of lager before driving
to pick up more booze has been banned from the roads for three years.

Darren Hunter was arrested after police followed him from Tesco in
Newcastle Road, South Shields, as they thought he was speeding.

When they asked the 23-year-old to get out of the car, he stumbled and
smelled of alcohol.

He told the officers he had drank two pints of lager, but after a
breath test showed he had 53mg of alcohol in 100ml of breath – the
legal limit being 35mg – he admitted to drinking a can at home and
four pints in the pub.

Hunter, of Neville’s Cross Road, Hebburn, also admitted he had taken
the Peugeot 206 from where he worked – Quay Motors in Hebburn – and
had no insurance or licence.

He pleaded guilty to drink-driving, driving with no insurance and
without a licence at South Tyneside Magistrates’ Court.

Magistrates banned him from driving for 38 months after hearing he had
a similar drink-driving conviction on his record from 2006.

Keith Laidlaw, prosecuting, said: “Police followed a silver Peugeot
which they thought was speeding.  “When they pulled it over they asked
the driver, the defendant, to get out. They say he stumbled badly and
nearly fell over.

“When he got into the police car, he smelled of alcohol.  “He told
them he had drank a couple of pints of lager and was arrested.

“He was breath-tested and his reading showed 52mg of alcohol in 100ml
of breath, the legal limit being £35mg.â€

Mr Laidlaw said in his police interview he told arresting officers he
had taken the car from work because he had some errands to run and
didn’t want to walk around.

Hunter admitted he wasn’t insured to drive the car and didn’t have a
licence to drive it.

He added: “He said he had a can of lager at home before going to the
Longship in Hebburn, where he had four pints.  “Then he and a friend –
who didn’t know he shouldn’t be driving the car – went to McDonald’s
in Simonside before getting two crates of lager from Tesco.â€

The police pulled Hunter over as he was leaving Bede Industrial
Estate.

The court heard Hunter has now lost his job."

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/c..._car_1_3739542

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Old September 3rd 11, 11:16 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 03/09/2011 10:20, Simon Mason wrote:

“He was breath-tested and his reading showed 52mg of alcohol in 100ml
of breath, the legal limit being £35mg.â€
Xxxxxx admitted he wasn’t insured to drive the car and didn’t have a
licence to drive it.


There ought to be a law against that combination of offences. Perhaps the
penalty could be a three year driving ban.
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Old September 3rd 11, 12:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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The old "can't blow into the breathalyser as I've got asthma" gambit.
QUOTE:

"A BOLSOVER motorist was sprayed with CS gas after being arrested on
suspicion of drink-driving.

Police went to Eric O’Neil’s home on 30th June after receiving a tip-
off that he drove a car involved in an unrelated matter. He was
leaving the address with car keys in his hand and appeared to be
drunk, Helen Griffiths, prosecuting, told Chesterfield magistrates
last Wednesday. O’Neil was arrested and became aggressive as he was
taken to the back of a police Vauxhall Astra.

“He kicked out at the back window a number of times. He was told to
stop but he carried on and it eventually smashed,” said Mrs Griffiths.
O’Neil was removed from the vehicle and he struggled with police, who
sprayed him with CS gas to subdue him. He was taken to Chesterfield
police station where he failed to provide breath samples.

O’Neil (30), of North View Street, Bolsover, admitted damaging
property and failing to provide a breath specimen.

Presiding magistrate Paul Beard imposed a 7pm-7am curfew for four
months and ordered O’Neil to pay £100 compensation, with £85 costs. He
was also banned O’Neil from driving for 16 months.

“An officer knelt on his chest. He has asthma and breathing
difficulties caused him to kick out,” said Julian Hammond, for O’Neil,
an unemployed lorry driver.

“He should have made some effort to blow into the intoxilyser machine.
He didn’t because of his asthma, although he did not put forward any
medical reasons at the time.”

http://www.chad.co.uk/news/local/cs_...iver_1_3714514

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Old September 3rd 11, 12:59 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 03/09/2011 12:37, Simon Mason wrote:

The old "can't blow into the breathalyser as I've got asthma" gambit.
QUOTE:


"A BOLSOVER motorist was sprayed with CS gas after being arrested on
suspicion of drink-driving.
Police went to Eric O’Neil’s home on 30th June after receiving a tip-
off that he drove a car involved in an unrelated matter. He was
leaving the address with car keys in his hand and appeared to be
drunk, Helen Griffiths, prosecuting, told Chesterfield magistrates
last Wednesday. O’Neil was arrested and became aggressive as he was
taken to the back of a police Vauxhall Astra.
“He kicked out at the back window a number of times. He was told to
stop but he carried on and it eventually smashed,” said Mrs Griffiths.
O’Neil was removed from the vehicle and he struggled with police, who
sprayed him with CS gas to subdue him. He was taken to Chesterfield
police station where he failed to provide breath samples.
O’Neil (30), of North View Street, Bolsover, admitted damaging
property and failing to provide a breath specimen.
Presiding magistrate Paul Beard imposed a 7pm-7am curfew for four
months and ordered O’Neil to pay £100 compensation, with £85 costs. He
was also banned O’Neil from driving for 16 months.
“An officer knelt on his chest. He has asthma and breathing
difficulties caused him to kick out,” said Julian Hammond, for O’Neil,
an unemployed lorry driver.
“He should have made some effort to blow into the intoxilyser machine.
He didn’t because of his asthma, although he did not put forward any
medical reasons at the time.”


http://www.chad.co.uk/news/local/cs_...iver_1_3714514


There may well be more to the case than is reported, but it's a rum do if
simply having keys whilst being over the limit can lead to a conviction, let
alone a disqualification.

It's alright for me and many others. If I want something out of the boot of
my car late at night after having a few glasses of claret, I just walk out
onto the driveway (private property and in no sense a public place) and get it.

If my neighbour from (say) six doors away (a terraced house) does the same,
he commits an offence because his car is parked on the highway and he is "in
charge" of it whilst over the limit.

Enforcement of this law in such circumstances can easily be characterised as
potentially disproportionate and unreasonable.

 




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