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Old July 14th 05, 04:41 AM
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If you bicycle on the wrong side of the road you deserve to become weenie
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Old July 14th 05, 01:41 PM
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"winnard" wrote in message
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If you bicycle on the wrong side of the road you deserve to become weenie
meat.




winnard



What exactly is "the wrong side of the road?" Do you remember (and maybe
I'm remembering incorrectly) being taught as kids (way back--not in the 80s,
you punks) to bicycle so that cars are facing you? I could swear this was
the original plan..... Now the rule is that cyclists follow the same rules
as cars.

BTW, I saw two kids doing exactly that just two days ago...... riding into
oncoming traffic, which is especially dangerous when they are crossing one
of those right hand turn "merge type lanes." I wanted to tag one, but
talked myself out of it.

Peach


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Old July 14th 05, 01:50 PM
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"WiNK" wrote in
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What exactly is "the wrong side of the road?" Do you remember (and
maybe I'm remembering incorrectly) being taught as kids (way back--not
in the 80s, you punks) to bicycle so that cars are facing you? I
could swear this was the original plan..... Now the rule is that
cyclists follow the same rules as cars.


In most states in which I've bothered to check the laws, bicycles = cars
insofar as rules of the road are concerned. They shouldn't be up on the
sidewalk and they shouldn't be riding facing oncoming traffic.

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"I wish people who had trouble communicating would just shut up."
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Old July 14th 05, 02:04 PM
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"Jay Furr" wrote in message
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"WiNK" wrote in
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What exactly is "the wrong side of the road?" Do you remember (and
maybe I'm remembering incorrectly) being taught as kids (way back--not
in the 80s, you punks) to bicycle so that cars are facing you? I
could swear this was the original plan..... Now the rule is that
cyclists follow the same rules as cars.


In most states in which I've bothered to check the laws, bicycles = cars
insofar as rules of the road are concerned. They shouldn't be up on the
sidewalk and they shouldn't be riding facing oncoming traffic.

--
"I wish people who had trouble communicating would just shut up."
-- Tom Lehrer

http://www.livejournal.com/users/jayfurr/


I know it's that way *now*....I am talking about in the early 70s. I could
have sworn when I went to a bicycle safety course and earned my big,
fluorescent orange flag for my bike, that it wasn't that way.

Peach


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Old July 14th 05, 02:07 PM
Jay Furr
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"WiNK" wrote in
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In most states in which I've bothered to check the laws, bicycles =
cars insofar as rules of the road are concerned. They shouldn't be
up on the sidewalk and they shouldn't be riding facing oncoming
traffic.


I know it's that way *now*....I am talking about in the early 70s. I
could have sworn when I went to a bicycle safety course and earned my
big, fluorescent orange flag for my bike, that it wasn't that way.


People offer dumb-ass safety courses to kids on all kinds of things. It
doesn't mean that anything they say actually has any bearing on real life.
A well-meaning group can get an idea to offer bike safety courses, tell
kids to do something, and next week a cop'll stop one of the kids and say
"you know that's against the law, right?"

--
"I wish people who had trouble communicating would just shut up."
-- Tom Lehrer

http://www.livejournal.com/users/jayfurr/
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Old July 14th 05, 02:29 PM
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"Jay Furr" wrote in message
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"WiNK" wrote in
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In most states in which I've bothered to check the laws, bicycles =
cars insofar as rules of the road are concerned. They shouldn't be
up on the sidewalk and they shouldn't be riding facing oncoming
traffic.


I know it's that way *now*....I am talking about in the early 70s. I
could have sworn when I went to a bicycle safety course and earned my
big, fluorescent orange flag for my bike, that it wasn't that way.


People offer dumb-ass safety courses to kids on all kinds of things. It
doesn't mean that anything they say actually has any bearing on real life.
A well-meaning group can get an idea to offer bike safety courses, tell
kids to do something, and next week a cop'll stop one of the kids and say
"you know that's against the law, right?"

--
"I wish people who had trouble communicating would just shut up."
-- Tom Lehrer

http://www.livejournal.com/users/jayfurr/


I think that is exactly what happened....I was doing some research, because
it was bugging me. My guess is laws for bicycles were a later addition...
but the bike safety courses often taught kids improper riding:
"Many cyclists make these mistakes because they were taught to ride this way
as children."

I remember riding that way til I was a teenager!

Peach


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Old July 14th 05, 03:22 PM
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WiNK wrote:
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I think that is exactly what happened....I was doing some research, because
it was bugging me. My guess is laws for bicycles were a later addition...
but the bike safety courses often taught kids improper riding:
"Many cyclists make these mistakes because they were taught to ride this way
as children."

I remember riding that way til I was a teenager!


FWIW, I remember arguing about that when I was a teenager, in the early
1960s. I clearly recall four of us riding along debating the issue,
with two of us on the right, the other two guys on the left.

My guess is the laws were already on the books. They are stated rather
generally, after all - something like [from memory] "The operator of a
bicycle has all the rights and all the duties of a vehicle operator."
If there had been a great flurry of bicycle law changing, I think I'd
have heard.

But it's clear the laws were not well known. And yes, any
good-intentioned but ignorant group can put on a Bike Rodeo and tell
the kids all sorts of nonsense. So there have always been kids - and
adults - who just don't know.

Still, I believe the level of ignorance has gone down over the years.
I think this, and better medical care, are the main reasons the annual
bike fatality toll has been dropping since 1970 or so.

- Frank Krygowski

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Old July 14th 05, 10:32 PM
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WiNK wrote:
"Jay Furr" wrote in message
...
"WiNK" wrote in
:

In most states in which I've bothered to check the laws, bicycles =
cars insofar as rules of the road are concerned. They shouldn't be
up on the sidewalk and they shouldn't be riding facing oncoming
traffic.

I know it's that way *now*....I am talking about in the early 70s. I
could have sworn when I went to a bicycle safety course and earned my
big, fluorescent orange flag for my bike, that it wasn't that way.


People offer dumb-ass safety courses to kids on all kinds of things. It
doesn't mean that anything they say actually has any bearing on real life.
A well-meaning group can get an idea to offer bike safety courses, tell
kids to do something, and next week a cop'll stop one of the kids and say
"you know that's against the law, right?"

--
"I wish people who had trouble communicating would just shut up."
-- Tom Lehrer

http://www.livejournal.com/users/jayfurr/


I think that is exactly what happened....I was doing some research, because
it was bugging me. My guess is laws for bicycles were a later addition...
but the bike safety courses often taught kids improper riding:
"Many cyclists make these mistakes because they were taught to ride this way
as children."

I remember riding that way til I was a teenager!

Peach



We were taught (early 60's) to ride with traffic. The reason given
was that you'd be knocked away from traffic if you were riding with it,
but into traffic if you were riding toward it.

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Old July 14th 05, 10:42 PM
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How do you prefer your martini, Mr. "WiNK" ? Shaken,
or stirred?


"winnard" wrote in message
news:z5lBe.115962$yV4.52002@okepread03...
If you bicycle on the wrong side of the road you deserve to become
weenie meat.




winnard



What exactly is "the wrong side of the road?" Do you remember (and
maybe I'm remembering incorrectly) being taught as kids (way back--not
in the 80s, you punks) to bicycle so that cars are facing you? I
could swear this was the original plan..... Now the rule is that
cyclists follow the same rules as cars.

BTW, I saw two kids doing exactly that just two days ago...... riding
into oncoming traffic, which is especially dangerous when they are
crossing one of those right hand turn "merge type lanes." I wanted to
tag one, but talked myself out of it.

Peach




I don't know where you learned to bicycle, but back in '64 or so when I
was 8 and getting my "rules of the road" from the local police at a
bicycle clinic they held in my home town, we were told from the get-go
that you had to obey the same traffic rules as cars: drive on the right,
stop for signs and lights, and give turn signals.

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lookin' like that, I would just run towards the nearest living thing and
kill it.
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