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On 2/25/2020 11:06 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/25/2020 3:38 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 07:14:02 +0100, Tosspot

wrote:

On 25/02/2020 02:52, John B. wrote:

The Washington Post has it that the CinC has made some
16,219 false or
misleading claims since assuming office. As of 17 Jan
2020. :-(

That's ridiculous it's around 15 a *day* you need to
train for that sort
of performance! Or be terminally stupid, which he ain't.

Read
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...aims-database/

They list by subject, on a daily, monthly or cumulative basis

Here's the trouble with that database of lies:

Look at the left column, Trump's false statements. They
average perhaps 20 words each.

Look at the right column, the explanation of why Trump's
statement is false. They typically run 100 words, often more.

There's a large contingent in this country who struggle with
reading more than 20 words at a time. Trump plays to them.



Yes, he ought to snip it down to a short sound bite:

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
"Tell Vladmir I'll be more flexible after my election."
"Chemical weapons in Syria are a red line"
"ISIS is the JV team."
"I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself."
promptly followed by "I have a pen and a phone." and he did
it anyway.

Success has various definitions. Depends on who it is on any
given day.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 2/25/2020 12:44 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/25/2020 11:06 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/25/2020 3:38 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 07:14:02 +0100, Tosspot

wrote:

On 25/02/2020 02:52, John B. wrote:

The Washington Post has it that the CinC has made some
16,219 false or
misleading claimsÂ* since assuming office. As of 17 Jan
2020. :-(

That's ridiculous it's around 15 a *day* you need to
train for that sort
of performance!Â* Or be terminally stupid, which he ain't.

Read
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...aims-database/

They list by subject, on a daily, monthly or cumulative basis

Here's the trouble with that database of lies:

Look at the left column, Trump's false statements. They
average perhaps 20 words each.

Look at the right column, the explanation of why Trump's
statement is false. They typically run 100 words, often more.

There's a large contingent in this country who struggle with
reading more than 20 words at a time. Trump plays to them.



Yes, he ought to snip it down to a short sound bite:

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
"Tell Vladmir I'll be more flexible after my election."
"Chemical weapons in Syria are a red line"
"ISIS is the JV team."
"I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself."
promptly followed by "I have a pen and a phone." and he did it anyway.

Success has various definitions. Depends on who it is on any given day.

I haven't spent much time memorizing definitions of logical fallacies.
But there must be one related to "Mr. A did some things wrong, so it's
OK for Mr. B to do anything he wants hundreds of times."

Would it be called "5 = 16,219" ?


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 5:35:27 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/24/2020 7:16 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 10:43:00 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 12:56:01 AM UTC-8, Tosspot wrote:
On 24/02/2020 01:14, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 14:25:48 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich

If you're too stupid to find the information don't expect others to hold you cold wet clammy hands.

Nice try Tommy, but I was the one that found the evidence and
corrected your false claims... which is, of course, why you are
ranting and raving and making the same claims over and over. It is
called a "cover up" in the trade.

You seem to have the childish notion that repeating a falsehood over
and over and over makes it true.

Is he a Maggot? Seems to work for the CinC so why not for everyone else?

John "corrected" my information by ignoring the part of the test procedure that said that they moved the cog back and forth 3" at ten hertz for some time and then increased that to 100 hertz.

I suppose John is too stupid to understand that and simulating shifting through the gears. And that test to be about the same as 10 times the worst possible case.

Aren't you going to look like the usual damn fool when Trump is re-elected by a margin as large as Reagan was in his second election? In the Iowa caucuses (in a deep blue state) the total votes for all of the Democrat Candidates was about 90,000. For the Trump speech he gave there just before that the Republican Campaign Committee received requests for 175,000 tickets.. Or maybe you, like Jay, can't accomplish simple arithmetic? Most Bernie supporters are college age kids who can't vote or who probably won't because Sanders will NEVER get the nomination. And if he does no one other than those Bernie supporters will vote for him. So you idiots are damned in any case. You're so stupid you haven't even watched the Democrat debates where Bloomdoggle hit the mark about Bernie's socialism - he owns three homes including a summer home at the Cape and flies everywhere in a private jet lecturing everyone about man-made climate change.

Well, I don't know what Trump has to do with bicycle chains... unless
it is the fact that Trump tells lies and you tell lies about chain
tests...

I reckon another 4 years under Trump and the U.S. economy will be
laying by the roadside. Already the auto companies are closing
factories... and the Japanese and Chinese are opening them, even
Harley Davidson has opened an operation in Asia to evade the high
costs of doing business in the U.S. U.S. steel manufacturing that
people go on about is 1/4 that of China and also less than either the
E.U., Japan, or India. The embargo against Chinese made goods
resulted in a nearly 50 percent reduction in exported U.S. farm
products and China finding new sources at a cheaper price than U.S.
products. And, and, and.
--
cheers,

John B.


Fortunately, as men differ in outlook, we have futures
markets. You ought to short GM, Ford and Fiat - note on
futures with any significant price movement the leverage can
bring gargantuan profits.


(I agree with you that Harley has some very deep troubles
which are not going to get better any time soon. Not so
sure about the Big Two and Fiat has so many big chunks of
gold and lead flying straight at it right now, there are no
reasonable bets. Lucky maybe but not reasonable. Marchione
was a genius but he's dead and no one else can do it.)

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I think that if you build a car that can last with little maintenance for 300,000 miles that you have to plan on sales falling off as a result.

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 10:14:05 PM UTC-8, Tosspot wrote:

That's ridiculous it's around 15 a *day* you need to train for that sort
of performance! Or be terminally stupid, which he ain't.

Bloomdoggle has made a very good attempt to buy the election. I think that he bought the DNC and hence the Super Delegates. But there may be just so much support for Bernie among what passes for a Democrat Party today that they will have to run him. 80% of the American people in several polls have said that they will not support socialism in any form. And why are they lying about Bernie not being a communist when he was the HEAD of the American Communist Party and ran for President under their banner most of the time?

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 3:53:01 PM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 10:14:05 PM UTC-8, Tosspot wrote:

That's ridiculous it's around 15 a *day* you need to train for that sort
of performance! Or be terminally stupid, which he ain't.

Bernie ...a communist ... he was the HEAD of the American Communist Party and ran for President under their banner most of the time?

Wow. Tom lives in a strange world!

- Frank Krygowski

On 2/25/2020 1:27 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/25/2020 12:44 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/25/2020 11:06 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/25/2020 3:38 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 07:14:02 +0100, Tosspot

wrote:

On 25/02/2020 02:52, John B. wrote:

The Washington Post has it that the CinC has made some
16,219 false or
misleading claims since assuming office. As of 17 Jan
2020. :-(

That's ridiculous it's around 15 a *day* you need to
train for that sort
of performance! Or be terminally stupid, which he ain't.

Read
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...aims-database/


They list by subject, on a daily, monthly or cumulative
basis

Here's the trouble with that database of lies:

Look at the left column, Trump's false statements. They
average perhaps 20 words each.

Look at the right column, the explanation of why Trump's
statement is false. They typically run 100 words, often
more.

There's a large contingent in this country who struggle with
reading more than 20 words at a time. Trump plays to them.



Yes, he ought to snip it down to a short sound bite:

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
"Tell Vladmir I'll be more flexible after my election."
"Chemical weapons in Syria are a red line"
"ISIS is the JV team."
"I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself."
promptly followed by "I have a pen and a phone." and he
did it anyway.

Success has various definitions. Depends on who it is on
any given day.

I haven't spent much time memorizing definitions of logical
fallacies. But there must be one related to "Mr. A did some
things wrong, so it's OK for Mr. B to do anything he wants
hundreds of times."

Would it be called "5 = 16,219" ?



Since it seemed to bother you, I was pondering the range and
rules of public statements for elected officials. Couldn't
discover a general rule that's not subjective. Do you know
of one?

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 2/25/2020 3:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 3:53:01 PM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 10:14:05 PM UTC-8, Tosspot wrote:

That's ridiculous it's around 15 a *day* you need to train for that sort
of performance! Or be terminally stupid, which he ain't.

Bernie ...a communist ... he was the HEAD of the American Communist Party and ran for President under their banner most of the time?

Wow. Tom lives in a strange world!

- Frank Krygowski


That wasn't Bernie, it was Gus Hall, who got nowhere as a
presidential candidate more often than even Harold Stassen.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 9:06:56 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/25/2020 3:38 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 07:14:02 +0100, Tosspot
wrote:

On 25/02/2020 02:52, John B. wrote:

The Washington Post has it that the CinC has made some 16,219 false or
misleading claims since assuming office. As of 17 Jan 2020. :-(

That's ridiculous it's around 15 a *day* you need to train for that sort
of performance! Or be terminally stupid, which he ain't.

Read
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...aims-database/
They list by subject, on a daily, monthly or cumulative basis

Here's the trouble with that database of lies:

Look at the left column, Trump's false statements. They average perhaps
20 words each.

Look at the right column, the explanation of why Trump's statement is
false. They typically run 100 words, often more.

There's a large contingent in this country who struggle with reading
more than 20 words at a time. Trump plays to them.


--
- Frank Krygowski

The actual case is that if you actually investigate these so-called lies, most of them are entirely invented, misrepresented or purposely misconstrued. Exaggeration is not a lie. It is the same thing that absolutely everyone does.

I looked up several of those lies which were simply misrepresentation by leaving out the complete sentence or the intentional deletion of the surrounding conversation.

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 11:27:50 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/25/2020 12:44 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/25/2020 11:06 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/25/2020 3:38 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 07:14:02 +0100, Tosspot

wrote:

On 25/02/2020 02:52, John B. wrote:

The Washington Post has it that the CinC has made some
16,219 false or
misleading claimsÂ* since assuming office. As of 17 Jan
2020. :-(

That's ridiculous it's around 15 a *day* you need to
train for that sort
of performance!Â* Or be terminally stupid, which he ain't.

Read
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...aims-database/

They list by subject, on a daily, monthly or cumulative basis

Here's the trouble with that database of lies:

Look at the left column, Trump's false statements. They
average perhaps 20 words each.

Look at the right column, the explanation of why Trump's
statement is false. They typically run 100 words, often more.

There's a large contingent in this country who struggle with
reading more than 20 words at a time. Trump plays to them.



Yes, he ought to snip it down to a short sound bite:

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
"Tell Vladmir I'll be more flexible after my election."
"Chemical weapons in Syria are a red line"
"ISIS is the JV team."
"I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself."
promptly followed by "I have a pen and a phone." and he did it anyway.

Success has various definitions. Depends on who it is on any given day.

I haven't spent much time memorizing definitions of logical fallacies.
But there must be one related to "Mr. A did some things wrong, so it's
OK for Mr. B to do anything he wants hundreds of times."

Would it be called "5 = 16,219" ?


--
- Frank Krygowski

https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-b...ard-communist/