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A.R.B.R. ain't dead yet??????
It sure is nice to know that a few people are
prepared for the $48. a barrel oil and are laughing about it. Happy Presidents Day It's a gas, gas, gas....... |
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Wasn't oil going for about $55/barrel a couple months ago? Whatever it
is the price is much too low and I hope it goes above $100/barrel to pay for the real costs. Then maybe the excessive number of oversized, overweight, single occupant vehicles will get off our roads so we have more space for more benign forms of transportation such as riding recumbents. Zach |
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"Zach" wrote in message ups.com... Wasn't oil going for about $55/barrel a couple months ago? Whatever it is the price is much too low and I hope it goes above $100/barrel to pay for the real costs. Then maybe the excessive number of oversized, overweight, single occupant vehicles will get off our roads so we have more space for more benign forms of transportation such as riding recumbents. Zach Zach: I agree the price of oil is low based on historic prices adjusted for inflation. And that it would be nice to have more room on the roads. But I'm thinking were better be careful what we are wish for. Industrialized nations have an oil based economy and doubling that cost could wreak havoc on the global economy. With globalization everything is now connected in some way. Doubling the price of oil would do a lot more than just getting some SUV's off the road. I'm guessing your business needs a good economy to survive - and when I say a good economy I'm talking about a normal expansion - recession business cycle. In a truly depressed economy I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be much of a market for bicycles in the $1,000 to $5,000 range. I should think those dealers in the high end of the bike market would be ill equipped to compete those in the much larger scale low end of the market. skip |
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At first thought, getting back to rickshaws, recumbents and t-t-t-t-,
all right; spit it out- ten speeds and basic hpv-everything would be terrific for me. But when it comes to flooding, teens shooting everyone, masses of used car sales-service (new cars too, for that matter) this state alone would have waves of devastation (economic, housing, heat/cold, on and on). I do not know what will happen one year to the next. I am prepared with my bent, but I hope anarchy never happens when the oil life blood stops and everyone is forced to pedal. I enjoyed the microcar museum on my computer, but small cars in Europe didn't last very long after WWII. Those vehicles could easily become human powered hybrids, but going from a fun open trike to "claustrophobic" would be hard for me. I'm becoming as "flip-flop" about transportation as most polititions are! |
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"Zach" wrote in message ups.com... Wasn't oil going for about $55/barrel a couple months ago? Whatever it is the price is much too low and I hope it goes above $100/barrel to pay for the real costs. Then maybe the excessive number of oversized, overweight, single occupant vehicles will get off our roads so we have more space for more benign forms of transportation such as riding recumbents. Zach And if that happens you will be spending double for that recumbent |
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Mark Leuck wrote: "Zach" wrote in message ups.com... Wasn't oil going for about $55/barrel a couple months ago? Whatever it is the price is much too low and I hope it goes above $100/barrel to pay for the real costs. Then maybe the excessive number of oversized, overweight, single occupant vehicles will get off our roads so we have more space for more benign forms of transportation such as riding recumbents. Zach And if that happens you will be spending double for that recumbent No big deal, it will still be much less expensive than a car. Zach |
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"Zach" wrote in message oups.com... Mark Leuck wrote: "Zach" wrote in message ups.com... Wasn't oil going for about $55/barrel a couple months ago? Whatever it is the price is much too low and I hope it goes above $100/barrel to pay for the real costs. Then maybe the excessive number of oversized, overweight, single occupant vehicles will get off our roads so we have more space for more benign forms of transportation such as riding recumbents. Zach And if that happens you will be spending double for that recumbent No big deal, it will still be much less expensive than a car. Zach Then again that is assuming you can buy that recumbent by then I fail to understand the logic of people who wish the worst on everyone else so they can have more what they happen to like doing |
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Mark Leuck wrote: "Zach" wrote in message oups.com... Mark Leuck wrote: "Zach" wrote in message ups.com... Wasn't oil going for about $55/barrel a couple months ago? Whatever it is the price is much too low and I hope it goes above $100/barrel to pay for the real costs. Then maybe the excessive number of oversized, overweight, single occupant vehicles will get off our roads so we have more space for more benign forms of transportation such as riding recumbents. Zach And if that happens you will be spending double for that recumbent No big deal, it will still be much less expensive than a car. Zach Then again that is assuming you can buy that recumbent by then I fail to understand the logic of people who wish the worst on everyone else so they can have more what they happen to like doing In case you haven't noticed the world is going to hell due to overuse of resources and the large number of people driving single occupant, inefficient vehicles burning up petrol as if it were water has got to stop if life on earth is to survive. Anything that can be done to discourage destroying the environment through driving and excessive resource use is a worthy cause in my book. I'm willing to suffer reduced convenience to help save the world but many aren't and won't start conserving resources and reducing their pollution output until it becomes too expensive for them to drive. This is the beginning of the peak oil age and things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. Hopefully humanity can correct itself before it is too late and the mass die off occurs. It is already starting to happen. Look at what is going on with global warming and how many people are dying in wars these days. Zach |
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At the last OPEC meeting the price per barrel was set at $55.00 per barrel
for 2005/2006, this was set as the bare minimum, I think their calendar year kicks in around June 2005 and yes I agree $100.00 should be the base price. Expect a major price hike after Washington threatens to go ballistic on Iran and more car bombs light up the sky in Saudi Arabia...the mid-east is about to get very interesting, North American reaction of course will be to build and buy bigger and more powerful automobile engines for the drive to Wal Mart 200 miles away to take advantage of all those deep discount savings on stuff no longer made in America. Might be a bit premature to look into becoming hippie survivalists, but then again as the air we breath ends up on par with Mexico City and the only really good jobs left in America include you asking if your customer wants Fries with their burger...might not hurt to read up on planting a veggie garden. Oh and as America becomes more interesting, expect the cost of tires to rise a few pennies and everything else we import goes up as fuel costs go up to get stuff to America. Nice thing about being old is you have learned to not get excited and take all this global insanity in stride...if I was 30 years younger, I'd be pretty ****ed & worried with the way the nation and the environment is going downhill. "Zach" wrote in message ups.com... Wasn't oil going for about $55/barrel a couple months ago? Whatever it is the price is much too low and I hope it goes above $100/barrel to pay for the real costs. Then maybe the excessive number of oversized, overweight, single occupant vehicles will get off our roads so we have more space for more benign forms of transportation such as riding recumbents. Zach |
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"Joshua Goldberg" wrote in message ... At the last OPEC meeting the price per barrel was set at $55.00 per barrel for 2005/2006, this was set as the bare minimum, I think their calendar year kicks in around June 2005 and yes I agree $100.00 should be the base price. Expect a major price hike after Washington threatens to go ballistic on Iran and more car bombs light up the sky in Saudi Arabia...the mid-east is about to get very interesting, Actually it appears to be calming down but we'll wait and see, if so many of you think the price of gas is too low then why not pay more? I'm sure the stations will accept the additional funds, and if so many of you believe taxes are too low then why not write a bigger check to the government? My bet is nobody does or will because deep down they really don't believe some of the things they say North American reaction of course will be to build and buy bigger and more powerful automobile engines for the drive to Wal Mart 200 miles away to take advantage of all those deep discount savings on stuff no longer made in America. Most Wal Marts are within 10 to 20 miles, I don't know where you get 200, if someone drives that far they are idiots Interesting story last week, seems California and Oregon is looking at taxing cars by miles driven, the reasoning however isn't what one thinks since it seems so many people are buying hybrid cars then the state loses money from gas taxes. Damned if you do and damned if you don't Might be a bit premature to look into becoming hippie survivalists, but then again as the air we breath ends up on par with Mexico City and the only really good jobs left in America include you asking if your customer wants Fries with their burger...might not hurt to read up on planting a veggie garden. Jeez now your starting to sound like Sherman,Last jobs statistics I saw indicated higher average wages not lower. I guess thats happens to "the other guy" Oh and as America becomes more interesting, expect the cost of tires to rise a few pennies and everything else we import goes up as fuel costs go up to get stuff to America. The cost of tires will rise quite a bit more than a few pennies with $100 per barrel oil prices, I'd wager IF that were to happen the very same people here crying about the low price of oil now will cry even more when EVERYTHING they buy is doubled in price, you people who want these things know not what you say Nice thing about being old is you have learned to not get excited and take all this global insanity in stride...if I was 30 years younger, I'd be pretty ****ed & worried with the way the nation and the environment is going downhill. I don't know how old you are but I'm old enough to have heard a lot of the doomsday scenarios you guys talk 20-30 years ago, call me someone with my head in the sand but I've heard all of this before and seen none of it. What people fail to understand time and time again is regardless what happens people adapt to changes, there will be no mass devastation or panic due wars because of oil running out since IF that were to happen we'd have adapted to something else ages ago, the human race always does |
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