Another impatient driver

On Nov 13, 11:00 am, Adam Lea wrote:
On 13/11/11 10:51, Bertie Wooster wrote:





On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:12:40 -0000, "Mr. Benn"
wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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On Nov 13, 9:55 am, Tony wrote:
On 13/11/2011 08:54, Simon Mason wrote:

Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little old lady
crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost" time back, then
has
to slam on the anchors at a zebra where I pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv

Remind me, what's the rule about overtaking on the zig zags of a
crossing?

The rule is that it only applies to motor vehicles as you well
know :-)
It has been done to death on this NG for many years.
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Is overtaking on zig-zags considered to be good cycling practice?

If done safely, yes. The head of a traffic queue is the safest place
to be in a traffic queue.

I do wonder about this, surely if you are at the head of the queue then
you have more vehicles behind trying to get past you when the lights go
green than if you were to wait in the queue? Not to mention the
additional risk of getting to the front in the first place.- Hide quoted
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Like in this case you mean?
The cars behind me had an overtaking lane in order to pass me when the
lights turned green, so nobody was being "held up".
If anything, the cars were holding themselves up without me being needed.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/numptybus.wmv

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Simon Mason

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:54:36 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little old lady
crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost" time back, then has to
slam on the anchors at a zebra where I pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv


Did you mean the bit where you overtook at the zebra crossing - or when you
went down the road "Buses only" with no exemption for cyclists?

You are right - it takes all sorts.

On Nov 13, 11:09*am, Tony Dragon wrote:
On 13/11/2011 09:59, Mr. Benn wrote:





"Tony Dragon" wrote in message
news

On 13/11/2011 08:54, Simon Mason wrote:
Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little old lady
crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost" time back, then has
to slam on the anchors at a zebra where I pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv

Remind me, what's the rule about overtaking on the zig zags of a crossing?
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Ahhh, that's another rule that doesn't apply to cyclists!

Yes, perhaps it is time for a level playing field.- Hide quoted text -

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Join the queue behind speeding, drinking limits, tyre treads, carrying
a child at the front, VED, licencing, MOTs, parking, seat belts, stop
lights, number plates etc etc.

--
Simon Mason

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:05:08 -0000, "Mr. Benn"
wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
.uk...

Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little old lady
crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost" time back, then has to
slam on the anchors at a zebra where I pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv
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Same as you. He's doing a time trial.


Yep - probably trying to knock 39 seconds off his journey time to work !!

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:12:40 -0000, "Mr. Benn"
wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...

On Nov 13, 9:55 am, Tony Dragon wrote:
On 13/11/2011 08:54, Simon Mason wrote:

Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little old lady
crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost" time back, then has
to slam on the anchors at a zebra where I pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv

Remind me, what's the rule about overtaking on the zig zags of a crossing?

The rule is that it only applies to motor vehicles as you well
know :-)
It has been done to death on this NG for many years.
=============================================

Is overtaking on zig-zags considered to be good cycling practice?


Yes - if a law does not apply to you - then it is good cycling practice to
"break it".

It is just like speed limited areas and pedestrian only areas. You may go as
fast as you can in them. Many of course try to do so. They are known as
selfish.

There is a thread in uk.legal.moderated about it at the moment.

On Nov 13, 11:09*am, Tony Dragon wrote:
On 13/11/2011 09:59, Mr. Benn wrote:





"Tony Dragon" wrote in message
news

On 13/11/2011 08:54, Simon Mason wrote:
Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little old lady
crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost" time back, then has
to slam on the anchors at a zebra where I pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv

Remind me, what's the rule about overtaking on the zig zags of a crossing?
=====================================

Ahhh, that's another rule that doesn't apply to cyclists!

Yes, perhaps it is time for a level playing field.- Hide quoted text -

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Maybe when bicycles kill as many people as car drivers you may get
your wish.

--
Simon Mason

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:51:03 +0000, Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:12:40 -0000, "Mr. Benn"
wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...

On Nov 13, 9:55 am, Tony Dragon wrote:
On 13/11/2011 08:54, Simon Mason wrote:

Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little old lady
crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost" time back, then has
to slam on the anchors at a zebra where I pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv

Remind me, what's the rule about overtaking on the zig zags of a crossing?

The rule is that it only applies to motor vehicles as you well
know :-)
It has been done to death on this NG for many years.
=============================================

Is overtaking on zig-zags considered to be good cycling practice?

If done safely, yes. The head of a traffic queue is the safest place
to be in a traffic queue.


Oh really - so overtaking on the zig-zags is good cycling practice. Spouting
******** like that is what gives cycling a bad name.

Perhaps you can point out just one publication where it tells you to do that?

And of course - is cycling up the outside of a lane of traffic - which can
start moving at any time - really safe?

I think you have made it up - you saw a straw and clutched it.

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:13:07 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

On Nov 13, 11:00 am, Adam Lea wrote:
On 13/11/11 10:51, Bertie Wooster wrote:





On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:12:40 -0000, "Mr. Benn"
wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...

On Nov 13, 9:55 am, Tony wrote:
On 13/11/2011 08:54, Simon Mason wrote:

Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little old lady
crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost" time back, then
has
to slam on the anchors at a zebra where I pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv

Remind me, what's the rule about overtaking on the zig zags of a
crossing?

The rule is that it only applies to motor vehicles as you well
know :-)
It has been done to death on this NG for many years.
=============================================

Is overtaking on zig-zags considered to be good cycling practice?

If done safely, yes. The head of a traffic queue is the safest place
to be in a traffic queue.

I do wonder about this, surely if you are at the head of the queue then
you have more vehicles behind trying to get past you when the lights go
green than if you were to wait in the queue? Not to mention the
additional risk of getting to the front in the first place.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Like in this case you mean?
The cars behind me had an overtaking lane in order to pass me when the
lights turned green, so nobody was being "held up".
If anything, the cars were holding themselves up without me being needed.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/numptybus.wmv


Oh yes - when you cycle along the lane which clearly says "Turn Right Only"

Own goal.

"Adam Lea" wrote in message
If done safely, yes. The head of a traffic queue is the safest place
to be in a traffic queue.

I do wonder about this, surely if you are at the head of the queue then
you have more vehicles behind trying to get past you when the lights go
green than if you were to wait in the queue? Not to mention the
additional risk of getting to the front in the first place.

What risk?
It is just good bike handling skills and anticipation in action.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/numptybus.wmv

--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:00:08 +0000, Adam Lea
wrote:

On 13/11/11 10:51, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:12:40 -0000, "Mr. Benn"
wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...

On Nov 13, 9:55 am, Tony wrote:
On 13/11/2011 08:54, Simon Mason wrote:

Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little old lady
crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost" time back, then has
to slam on the anchors at a zebra where I pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv

Remind me, what's the rule about overtaking on the zig zags of a crossing?

The rule is that it only applies to motor vehicles as you well
know :-)
It has been done to death on this NG for many years.
=============================================

Is overtaking on zig-zags considered to be good cycling practice?

If done safely, yes. The head of a traffic queue is the safest place
to be in a traffic queue.

I do wonder about this, surely if you are at the head of the queue then
you have more vehicles behind trying to get past you when the lights go
green than if you were to wait in the queue? Not to mention the
additional risk of getting to the front in the first place.

I suppose the back of a traffic queue is even safer, but at some point
a cyclist is going to want to make progress, and better to filter past
stationary cars than have moving cars filter past a moving cyclist.