Another impatient driver

Simon Weaseltemper wrote:
On 14/11/2011 16:59, Mrcheerful wrote:
Simon Weaseltemper wrote:
On 14/11/2011 16:03, Mrcheerful wrote:
Judith wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:58:53 +0000, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:00:08 +0000, Adam
wrote:

On 13/11/11 10:51, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:12:40 -0000, "Mr. Benn"
wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...

On Nov 13, 9:55 am, Tony
wrote:
On 13/11/2011 08:54, Simon Mason wrote:

Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little
old lady crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost"
time back, then has to slam on the anchors at a zebra where
I pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv

Remind me, what's the rule about overtaking on the zig zags
of a crossing?

The rule is that it only applies to motor vehicles as you well
know :-)
It has been done to death on this NG for many years.
=============================================

Is overtaking on zig-zags considered to be good cycling
practice?

If done safely, yes. The head of a traffic queue is the safest
place to be in a traffic queue.

I do wonder about this, surely if you are at the head of the
queue then you have more vehicles behind trying to get past you
when the lights go green than if you were to wait in the queue?
Not to mention the additional risk of getting to the front in
the first place.

I suppose the back of a traffic queue is even safer, but at some
point a cyclist is going to want to make progress, and better to
filter past stationary cars than have moving cars filter past a
moving cyclist.


Why use the word "filter" when what you mean is "overtake"?

"Filtering" is when selfish cyclists weave in and out and between
and past vehicles, often causing damage, danger and annoyance in
the process.

Sorry Mr C but filtering is simply where two wheeled vehicles pass
slow or stationary traffic to get ahead of the traffic. Needs to be
done with caution, needs to be done with care. Strange as it may
seem, it does actually annoy some drivers who are stuck in traffic
as they see it as “unfair”. Simple answer is to get a bike.

in which case it would be called overtaking, it is called filtering
because of the similarity to pouring liguid through a filter medium,
it twists and turns finding the gaps between to travel through.



No, filtering is filtering. It is entirely different with a different
set of hazards. Which motorcycle training course did you attend?

Don’t tell me, you have not attended one …

Many more than you, I am sure.

On 14/11/2011 17:52, Mrcheerful wrote:
Simon Weaseltemper wrote:


No, filtering is filtering. It is entirely different with a different
set of hazards. Which motorcycle training course did you attend?

Don’t tell me, you have not attended one …

Many more than you, I am sure.



So how come you understand nothing about filtering? Seems a bit odd
don’t you think?

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On 14/11/2011 17:47, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 14, 5:36 pm, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:21:35 +0000, Judith
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:10:32 +0000, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

snip

Filtering on the inside past side roads is fraught with dangers. I'd
certa

You keep using this term "filtering" - could you perhaps point me to the
official definition of what it means please.

fil·ter/'filter/
Verb:
Pass (a bike, tricycle or other human powered machine) past a queue of
slow moving or stationary motor vehicles.

And of course now fully sanctioned in the latest Highway Code.


It does not have to be “human powered machine”. It just has to be
narrow. Usually two wheeled.


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On Nov 14, 6:26 pm, Simon Weaseltemper wrote:

And of course now fully sanctioned in the latest Highway Code.

It does not have to be "human powered machine". It just has to be
narrow. Usually two wheeled.

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Clue:
Beware of cyclists and motorcyclists who may be passing either side.

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"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...

You keep using this term "filtering" - could you perhaps point me to the
official definition of what it means please.

fil·ter/'filter/
Verb:
Pass (a bike, tricycle or other human powered machine) past a queue of
slow moving or stationary motor vehicles.

Maybe the Janet and John approach would work like it does with Medjob.

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On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:36:18 +0000, Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:21:35 +0000, Judith
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:10:32 +0000, Bertie Wooster wrote:

snip


Filtering on the inside past side roads is fraught with dangers. I'd
certa

You keep using this term "filtering" - could you perhaps point me to the
official definition of what it means please.

fil·ter/'filter/
Verb:
Pass (a bike, tricycle or other human powered machine) past a queue of
slow moving or stationary motor vehicles.


And from which *official* document is that taken : the "Tom Crisping book of
wriggles".

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:37:28 +0000, Simon Weaseltemper
wrote:

On 14/11/2011 16:03, Mrcheerful wrote:
Judith wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:58:53 +0000, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:00:08 +0000, Adam
wrote:

On 13/11/11 10:51, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:12:40 -0000, "Mr. Benn"
wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...

On Nov 13, 9:55 am, Tony
wrote:
On 13/11/2011 08:54, Simon Mason wrote:

Boy racer hurtles away from the lights, nearly hits a little
old lady crossing the road, then floors it to get the "lost"
time back, then has to slam on the anchors at a zebra where I
pass him anyway.

What is that all about?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/impatient.wmv

Remind me, what's the rule about overtaking on the zig zags of a
crossing?

The rule is that it only applies to motor vehicles as you well
know :-)
It has been done to death on this NG for many years.
=============================================

Is overtaking on zig-zags considered to be good cycling practice?

If done safely, yes. The head of a traffic queue is the safest
place to be in a traffic queue.

I do wonder about this, surely if you are at the head of the queue
then you have more vehicles behind trying to get past you when the
lights go green than if you were to wait in the queue? Not to
mention the additional risk of getting to the front in the first
place.

I suppose the back of a traffic queue is even safer, but at some
point a cyclist is going to want to make progress, and better to
filter past stationary cars than have moving cars filter past a
moving cyclist.


Why use the word "filter" when what you mean is "overtake"?

"Filtering" is when selfish cyclists weave in and out and between and past
vehicles, often causing damage, danger and annoyance in the process.



Sorry Mr C but filtering is simply where two wheeled vehicles pass slow
or stationary traffic to get ahead of the traffic. Needs to be done with
caution, needs to be done with care. Strange as it may seem, it does
actually annoy some drivers who are stuck in traffic as they see it as
“unfair”. Simple answer is to get a bike.


And of course you have an official definition - or have you also made it up.

On 14/11/2011 16:37, Simon Weaseltemper wrote:
On 14/11/2011 16:03, Mrcheerful wrote:
Judith wrote:

[ ... ]

Why use the word "filter" when what you mean is "overtake"?

"Filtering" is when selfish cyclists weave in and out and between and past
vehicles, often causing damage, danger and annoyance in the process.

Sorry Mr C but filtering is simply where two wheeled vehicles pass slow or
stationary traffic to get ahead of the traffic.

From whence does that "definition" originate?

The Highway Code?

A Road Traffic Act?

On 14/11/2011 17:36, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:21:35 +0000,
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:10:32 +0000, Bertie wrote:

snip


Filtering on the inside past side roads is fraught with dangers. I'd
certa

You keep using this term "filtering" - could you perhaps point me to the
official definition of what it means please.

fil·ter/'filter/
Verb:
Pass (a bike, tricycle or other human powered machine) past a queue of
slow moving or stationary motor vehicles.

Very funny. :-)

On 14/11/2011 19:05, JNugent wrote:
On 14/11/2011 16:37, Simon Weaseltemper wrote:
On 14/11/2011 16:03, Mrcheerful wrote:
Judith wrote:

[ ... ]

Why use the word "filter" when what you mean is "overtake"?

"Filtering" is when selfish cyclists weave in and out and between and
past
vehicles, often causing damage, danger and annoyance in the process.

Sorry Mr C but filtering is simply where two wheeled vehicles pass
slow or
stationary traffic to get ahead of the traffic.

From whence does that "definition" originate?

The Highway Code?

A Road Traffic Act?

Dunno, the term has been around since way before I started motorcycling
in about 1981. Who GsAF anyway?

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