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Old May 26th 05, 02:09 PM
Matt B
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Default Is there such a thing as "road tax" in the UK?

For certain specified types of vehicle a licence ("Vehicle Licence") is
available.

For a subset of the vehicle types for which a "Vehicle Licence" is
available, the payment of a duty of excise ("Vehicle Excise Duty") is one of
the conditions which must be met to obtain the licence.

For the types of vehicle for which a "Vehicle Licence" is available, a
specific vehicle of that type is only legally obliged to have such a licence
if a public road will be used to keep, or use, that vehicle on.

The terms "duty" and "excise duty" both mean "tax" in the sense of a
government imposed contribution towards the cost of running the country.

We can therefore deduce the following:
"A tax is payable to enable specific vehicles of certain types to
legitimately use a public road."

I therefore propose that the term "road tax" is valid.

I base this proposition on the following assumptions:

1. The sentence "A fee is payable to enable specific vehicles of certain
types to legitimately use a car park" may reasonably be taken to imply that
a "car park fee" exists.

2. The sentence "A toll is payable to enable specific vehicles of certain
types to legitimately use a toll road" may reasonably be taken to imply that
a "road toll" exists.

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Old May 26th 05, 02:13 PM
Colin Blackburn
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Matt B wrote:
I therefore propose that the term "road tax" is valid.


I propose that the words 'bee' and 'bonnet' should be used in the same
sentence.

I also propose the the words "back under thy bridge" should be uttered
by all herein.

Colin
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Old May 26th 05, 02:19 PM
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Matt B wrote:

For certain specified types of vehicle a licence ("Vehicle Licence")
is available.


We've just had this discussion ad nauseam. I think the clear majority
view then was no, VED is not road tax by any reasonable definition.
Unless you've something new to add, which it doesn't appear you have,
could we simply refer back to that rather than simply rehashing the
same old drivel?

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Old May 26th 05, 02:26 PM
Matt B
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Matt B wrote:

For certain specified types of vehicle a licence ("Vehicle Licence")
is available.


We've just had this discussion ad nauseam. I think the clear majority
view then was no, VED is not road tax by any reasonable definition.


Only "views" rather than objective statements were presented.

Unless you've something new to add, which it doesn't appear you have,
could we simply refer back to that rather than simply rehashing the
same old drivel?


Which part of my proof was based on incorrect logic?

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Old May 26th 05, 02:30 PM
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Matt B wrote:

Which part of my proof was based on incorrect logic?


Refer to the previous thread.

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Old May 26th 05, 02:33 PM
Matt B
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"Colin Blackburn" wrote in message
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Matt B wrote:
I therefore propose that the term "road tax" is valid.


I propose that the words 'bee' and 'bonnet' should be used in the same
sentence.

I also propose the the words "back under thy bridge" should be uttered by
all herein.


I guess I'll have to log that as a bitter acceptance then, given the lack of
challenge to the proposal ;-)

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Old May 26th 05, 02:36 PM
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"dkahn400" wrote in message
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Matt B wrote:

Which part of my proof was based on incorrect logic?


Refer to the previous thread.


I did, which is why I started this thread, there were no valid challenges
there, just a plethora of false assertions.

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Old May 26th 05, 02:49 PM
Clive George
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"Matt B" wrote in message
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I guess I'll have to log that as a bitter acceptance then, given the lack
of challenge to the proposal ;-)


Don't confuse ennui with acceptance.

clive

PS got anything so say that's relevant to cycling?


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Old May 26th 05, 02:52 PM
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Matt B wrote:
For certain specified types of vehicle a licence ("Vehicle Licence") is
available.


What has this to do with cycling?

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Old May 26th 05, 03:01 PM
Matt B
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"Pyromancer" wrote in message
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Matt B wrote:
For certain specified types of vehicle a licence ("Vehicle Licence") is
available.


What has this to do with cycling?


IMHO it's a political issue of concern to road users. When recently
discussed in another thread many cyclists denied the existence of the term
"road tax".

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