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Adventure Cycling Maps SUCK!
They're printed on plain paper! And they're so small, and packed with somewhat superfluous info (who the hell cares about restaurants along the way, really). Just disappointed. They should be laminated, at the least, or printed on sturdier paper -- this is for touring, after all! Also, they really should be bigger -- perhaps better as a spiral-bound book? And more comprehensive -- I find googlemaps more useful! |
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Adventure Cycling Maps SUCK!
And you are somewhat of an idiot. The maps are indeed on paper but you can spill coffe or most anything slese on them and it wipes riught off so I really doubt that you evevn have them. They are meticulously researched for the best routes for cyclists to take. the next time you ride cross country wihich is proibably rather unlikely. just use any old road map you happen to have. or just a road atlas. that will be real easy to read as you are riding. |
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Adventure Cycling Maps SUCK!
NYC XYZ wrote: They're printed on plain paper! And they're so small, and packed with somewhat superfluous info (who the hell cares about restaurants along the way, really). 1) All paper is not created equal. The paper we wrote notes on in a previous career was constructed so that it became 'oatmeal' when exposed to liquid - good for its purpose. The paper that Adventure Cycling uses for the maps is waterproof. Not plain paper ... waterproof paper. 2) Some of us do like to stop at restaurants, at least on occasions. The maps are not just for the oatmeal and gruel crowd. Just disappointed. They should be laminated, at the least, or printed on sturdier paper -- this is for touring, after all! Also, they really should be bigger -- perhaps better as a spiral-bound book? And if they are bigger or spiral bound into a book how would you fit them into your handlebar map holder? And more comprehensive -- I find googlemaps more useful! And how useful is Google Maps from the handlebar of your bike? - rick |
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Adventure Cycling Maps SUCK!
Rick wrote: .... And how useful is Google Maps from the handlebar of your bike? One must carry a laptop on tour so one can read and post to the Usenet cycling groups while at rest stops. -- Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain |
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Adventure Cycling Maps SUCK!
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message oups.com... Rick wrote: .... And how useful is Google Maps from the handlebar of your bike? One must carry a laptop on tour so one can read and post to the Usenet cycling groups while at rest stops. I've often fantasized about a dream bike with handlebar mounted notebook pc with cell/satellite connections. |
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Adventure Cycling Maps SUCK!
"recycled-one" wrote in message ... "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message oups.com... Rick wrote: .... And how useful is Google Maps from the handlebar of your bike? One must carry a laptop on tour so one can read and post to the Usenet cycling groups while at rest stops. I've often fantasized about a dream bike with handlebar mounted notebook pc with cell/satellite connections. Sounds more like a nightmare to me -- in which the next thing is that I have to start answering urgent emails from the office while doing a solo century through Lancaster County! RichC (who does carry a cell phone on rides, but it's turned OFF!) |
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Adventure Cycling Maps SUCK!
"Rich Clark" wrote in message ... "recycled-one" wrote in message ... "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message oups.com... Rick wrote: .... And how useful is Google Maps from the handlebar of your bike? One must carry a laptop on tour so one can read and post to the Usenet cycling groups while at rest stops. I've often fantasized about a dream bike with handlebar mounted notebook pc with cell/satellite connections. Sounds more like a nightmare to me -- in which the next thing is that I have to start answering urgent emails from the office while doing a solo century through Lancaster County! That isn't a concern for me, but I can see how it might be a negative for those with employers demanding all-the-time access. OTOH wouldn't it be cool to be able to cycle when you are on the clock and doing your job? Ideally the device would be between a notebook computer and a Blackberry/Trio in size with some sort of dual thumb controls. It goes without saying that it would have to be weather and shock resistant. |
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Adventure Cycling Maps SUCK!
Just wondering ??? Can one purchase the Adventure Tour maps on a CD Rom?
With so many carrying laptops on tour these days, the maps are rather superfluous. I know, I know ,,, would not be able to get the map out during the day. And, I don't think I would carry a printer. But, if I was to carry a laptop and with the CD Rom .. just a thought. Thing about laptops, you can use them for so much. Emails, look stuff up ,,, but best of all.. Watch movies in your tent at night. I love this. ========= "NYC XYZ" wrote in message ups.com... They're printed on plain paper! And they're so small, and packed with somewhat superfluous info (who the hell cares about restaurants along the way, really). Just disappointed. They should be laminated, at the least, or printed on sturdier paper -- this is for touring, after all! Also, they really should be bigger -- perhaps better as a spiral-bound book? And more comprehensive -- I find googlemaps more useful! |
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Adventure Cycling Maps SUCK!
"recycled-one" wrote:
One must carry a laptop on tour so one can read and post to the Usenet cycling groups while at rest stops. I've often fantasized about a dream bike with handlebar mounted notebook pc with cell/satellite connections. It's been done -- 23 years ago, in fact. See http://microship.com/bike/winnebiko/across.html, part of a site that describes the adventures of Steve Roberts, bike nomad extraordinaire. In 1983 he hit the road on a recumbent loaded with with, among other things, a Radio Shack Model 100 laptop and a radio link to Compuserve. (Though usually he had to depend on phone links to upload/download his email.) The bike's loaded weight varied from 135 to 195 lbs (ouch!!) during the 10,000 miles he rode it. Within a few years he evolved his bike to include several computers, a packet-radio networking connection, a specialized chording keyboard on the handlebars that allowed him to write while riding, motion-sensing security system and Votrax speech synthesizer ("Please do not touch me!" :-) and lots more. The guy was nuts. It's pretty amazing reading. Gary |
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Adventure Cycling Maps SUCK!
Thomas Wentworth wrote:
Just wondering ??? Can one purchase the Adventure Tour maps on a CD Rom? With so many carrying laptops on tour these days, the maps are rather superfluous. I know, I know ,,, would not be able to get the map out during the day. And, I don't think I would carry a printer. But, if I was to carry a laptop and with the CD Rom .. just a thought. On a related topic, you can download files with the GPS coordinates for way points. I'd have to ask, though, do you want to spend time futzing with mapping software to import those files, or do you want to spend time riding your bike? Thing about laptops, you can use them for so much. Emails, look stuff up ,,, but best of all.. Watch movies in your tent at night. I love this. Email from your tent? There're too many gaps in cell coverage on major interstates for me to expect to get a signal out where I'd be camping. IME, a laptop is good for less than two years before you need a new battery. And personally, I'd rather have the map than start the computer, find where to turn (or where to go back to), then hibernate, while hoping the battery is going to last. ========= "NYC XYZ" wrote in message ups.com... They're printed on plain paper! And they're so small, and packed with somewhat superfluous info (who the hell cares about restaurants along the way, really). Just disappointed. They should be laminated, at the least, or printed on sturdier paper -- this is for touring, after all! Also, they really should be bigger -- perhaps better as a spiral-bound book? And more comprehensive -- I find googlemaps more useful! You really want to triple the weight and double the volume of maps for a long tour by getting them laminated, take them down to Kinko's... Pat |
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