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Taylor Phinney Article
"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... Michelle Wie is making 6-figures so it's not child prostitution - it's more like "child turning pro early and making more money than if she waited." The message is still the same, but your numbers are off: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/4ZKC.html |
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Taylor Phinney Article
"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message ... "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... Michelle Wie is making 6-figures so it's not child prostitution - it's more like "child turning pro early and making more money than if she waited." The message is still the same, but your numbers are off: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/4ZKC.html And I forsee a Kournikova-like athletic future for her. |
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Colin Campbell wrote: Carl Sundquist wrote: "Colin Campbell" wrote in message ... Has Carl Sundquist ever ridden the track? Maybe you'd better go to USACycling.org and do a search on his name. If my memory is correct, I watched him take a victory lap (at Blaine Minn.?) laying on his stomach on the saddle, feet straight out behind him, and pedaling with one hand while steering with the other. (What is that event called, anyway, Carl?) Have _I_ ever ridden the track? Yes, since 1991, when I was a mere stripling of 48. I've never distinguished myself, except by losing races. It's an old rbr joke. John Hansen, aka Hansen Brother #1, once asked Shaun Wallace if he had ever ridden a fixed gear. BTW, I held the handlebar with both hands and coasted. I never tried to hold it with one hand and pedal with the other. Would have been cool though. My memory is almost sure you gave at least one hand-driven pedal rev to keep your speed up, but you were a lot closer to the action than I was! When I think about all the great stories associated with Blaine (Erv on the podium, Ken & Paul in their final sprint, the Connie & Renee rivalry, Bart, Miche & Whiteman in their three-up rep, Bart crashing on the tandem, Rory O's second chance kilo, etc.) - Carls 'superman' is still one of most memorable images I can conjure from my shooting career. Mike G. - |
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Mike G wrote:
In article , Colin Campbell wrote: Carl Sundquist wrote: "Colin Campbell" wrote in message . .. Has Carl Sundquist ever ridden the track? Maybe you'd better go to USACycling.org and do a search on his name. If my memory is correct, I watched him take a victory lap (at Blaine Minn.?) laying on his stomach on the saddle, feet straight out behind him, and pedaling with one hand while steering with the other. (What is that event called, anyway, Carl?) Have _I_ ever ridden the track? Yes, since 1991, when I was a mere stripling of 48. I've never distinguished myself, except by losing races. It's an old rbr joke. John Hansen, aka Hansen Brother #1, once asked Shaun Wallace if he had ever ridden a fixed gear. BTW, I held the handlebar with both hands and coasted. I never tried to hold it with one hand and pedal with the other. Would have been cool though. My memory is almost sure you gave at least one hand-driven pedal rev to keep your speed up, but you were a lot closer to the action than I was! When I think about all the great stories associated with Blaine (Erv on the podium, Ken & Paul in their final sprint, the Connie & Renee rivalry, Bart, Miche & Whiteman in their three-up rep, Bart crashing on the tandem, Rory O's second chance kilo, etc.) - Carls 'superman' is still one of most memorable images I can conjure from my shooting career. Mike G. - Let's see a photo. Magilla |
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Taylor Phinney Article
Carl Sundquist wrote:
"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message ... "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... Michelle Wie is making 6-figures so it's not child prostitution - it's more like "child turning pro early and making more money than if she waited." The message is still the same, but your numbers are off: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/4ZKC.html And I forsee a Kournikova-like athletic future for her. Nah, she doesn't have the personality (or looks) of Anna K. People will try to make her into an Anna K. - just like they're trying to do to Maria Sharapova. But when all is said and done, neither Michelle nor Maria will ever get close to Kournikova's sexiness. Magilla |
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Taylor Phinney Article
On Jan 28, 5:49*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Nah, she doesn't have the personality (or looks) of Anna K. * People will try to make her into an Anna K. *- just like they're trying to do to Maria Sharapova. *But when all is said and done, neither Michelle nor Maria will ever get close to Kournikova's sexiness. Magilla- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, but Sharapova has got game. None of the others do. Bill C |
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Taylor Phinney Article
"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... Carl Sundquist wrote: And I forsee a Kournikova-like athletic future for her. Nah, she doesn't have the personality (or looks) of Anna K. People will try to make her into an Anna K. - just like they're trying to do to Maria Sharapova. But when all is said and done, neither Michelle nor Maria will ever get close to Kournikova's sexiness. I didn't say anything about her marketability, personality or sexiness. I said I predict she will have an athletic career similar to Kournikova. |
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MagillaGorilla wrote: Michael Press wrote: In article , MagillaGorilla wrote: Michael Press wrote: In article , MagillaGorilla wrote: Scott wrote: On Jan 26, 10:22 am, MagillaGorilla wrote: Bret wrote: "That kid is on a whole other level at 17 years old. He's truly gifted. He's doing things right now, today, off the couch, that 90 percent of the world's population would never attain no matter how good the training. He's another species. He's neither slow-twitch nor fast-twitch, he's 'all-twitch.'" http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13945.0.html So Allen Lim consider a guy who has been racing and riding a bike at altitude for the past 12 years to be someone who is "off the couch." Magilla Dumbass (hey, that felt good, I called him a dumbass) If you knew anything at all about mini-Phinney, you'd know he'd been riding very recreationally at best up until he started racing two years ago. He's been kicking ass and taking names since stepping up to the elite cats. You can bring up Evanshine or whomever you want as an example of a shining star that faded away, but none of the folks you bring up had parents, or a support structure, like Taylor. All the difference in the world. Everybody I brought up had parents. It's an undisputed fact. I would like to bring up Evanshine again. He won worlds and then he imploded. What ever happened to Tyler Farrar - I thought he was suppose to be the next big deal? How about Roy Knickman? What about Poppy-bitch? The fact is if mini-Phinney grows up and tries to ride clean on Slipsemen with Anorexic Drew Carey, he will ride himself into oblivion. Winning a World Athletic Cup event on the TRACK in the U.S. is a lot like Evanshine winning worlds in Colorado. Most of the Olympic medal contenders for the pursuit don't even want to be good right now because it's a waste of time, money, and emotions. I am confident Phinney will be outside the medals in Beijing. Everything about his ramp-up is wrong. All these early season world athletic cup events dilutes their importance because few of the top people contest them and even fewer show up in an Olympic year. Phinney winning a World Athletic Cup pursuit in an Olympic year is like Mari Holden winning the world championship in the time trial in an Olympic year. The real world championships in an Olympic year is the ****ing Olympics. In 2000, van Moorsel was the world chammpion in the time trial, not Mari Holden. **** the LA gerbil wheel. It is good for a youngster to learn how to win. Let it be where ever. If he is pummeled in the top events, then there you are. It is easy to bet the percentages and say he will become fodder. Winning cheap and easy is what did in Magen Long and is what defines junior racing. It's bad because it teaches riders to expect victories to come fast and easy when in fact victories in the elite ranks are rare and hard to come by. Junior racing is a form of child prostitution and should be treated as a federal crime. You prefer Mary Pierce and Michelle Wie getting thrown into the thresher? I agree whole heartedly that children's and teenager's sport is interfered with to the detriment of the participants. A champion will prevail. You are a bit too easy calling those victories `easy.' Superior tools and good training do not guarantee victory. One must learn how to win, a statement that you are ignoring. Michelle Wie is making 6-figures so it's not child prostitution - it's more like "child turning pro early and making more money than if she waited." In cycling, it's prostitution. That's why Lynn Gaggioli quit the sport - because even at the elite level it's still a form of prostitution. It's wrong to teach little girls how too win at an early age - especially against weak competition. I maintain that learning how to win is an important lesson. There are other lessons such as managing adversity and putting in the work necessary to achieve a goal. -- Michael Press |
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, Bill C wrote: On Jan 28, 5:49*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote: Nah, she doesn't have the personality (or looks) of Anna K. * People will try to make her into an Anna K. *- just like they're trying to do to Maria Sharapova. *But when all is said and done, neither Michelle nor Maria will ever get close to Kournikova's sexiness. Magilla- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, but Sharapova has got game. None of the others do. Just so. -- Michael Press |
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Bill C wrote:
On Jan 28, 5:49 pm, MagillaGorilla wrote: Nah, she doesn't have the personality (or looks) of Anna K. People will try to make her into an Anna K. - just like they're trying to do to Maria Sharapova. But when all is said and done, neither Michelle nor Maria will ever get close to Kournikova's sexiness. Magilla- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, but Sharapova has got game. None of the others do. Bill C Sharapova gets her ass kicked by the Williams sisters. Sure she won Australia, but that's a second-rate Grand Slam. Magilla |
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