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  #71  
Old January 28th 08, 06:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carl Sundquist
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"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
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Michelle Wie is making 6-figures so it's not child prostitution - it's
more like "child turning pro early and making more money than if she
waited."


The message is still the same, but your numbers are off:

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/4ZKC.html

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Old January 28th 08, 06:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
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"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
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Michelle Wie is making 6-figures so it's not child prostitution - it's
more like "child turning pro early and making more money than if she
waited."


The message is still the same, but your numbers are off:

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/4ZKC.html


And I forsee a Kournikova-like athletic future for her.

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Old January 28th 08, 10:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Colin Campbell wrote:

Carl Sundquist wrote:

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Has Carl Sundquist ever ridden the track? Maybe you'd better go to
USACycling.org and do a search on his name. If my memory is correct,
I watched him take a victory lap (at Blaine Minn.?) laying on his
stomach on the saddle, feet straight out behind him, and pedaling with
one hand while steering with the other. (What is that event called,
anyway, Carl?)

Have _I_ ever ridden the track? Yes, since 1991, when I was a mere
stripling of 48. I've never distinguished myself, except by losing
races.


It's an old rbr joke. John Hansen, aka Hansen Brother #1, once asked
Shaun Wallace if he had ever ridden a fixed gear.

BTW, I held the handlebar with both hands and coasted. I never tried to
hold it with one hand and pedal with the other. Would have been cool
though.


My memory is almost sure you gave at least one hand-driven pedal rev to
keep your speed up, but you were a lot closer to the action than I was!


When I think about all the great stories associated with Blaine (Erv on
the podium, Ken & Paul in their final sprint, the Connie & Renee
rivalry, Bart, Miche & Whiteman in their three-up rep, Bart crashing on
the tandem, Rory O's second chance kilo, etc.) - Carls 'superman' is
still one of most memorable images I can conjure from my shooting career.

Mike G.
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Old January 28th 08, 10:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla[_2_]
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Mike G wrote:
In article ,
Colin Campbell wrote:


Carl Sundquist wrote:

"Colin Campbell" wrote in message
. ..

Has Carl Sundquist ever ridden the track? Maybe you'd better go to
USACycling.org and do a search on his name. If my memory is correct,
I watched him take a victory lap (at Blaine Minn.?) laying on his
stomach on the saddle, feet straight out behind him, and pedaling with
one hand while steering with the other. (What is that event called,
anyway, Carl?)

Have _I_ ever ridden the track? Yes, since 1991, when I was a mere
stripling of 48. I've never distinguished myself, except by losing
races.

It's an old rbr joke. John Hansen, aka Hansen Brother #1, once asked
Shaun Wallace if he had ever ridden a fixed gear.

BTW, I held the handlebar with both hands and coasted. I never tried to
hold it with one hand and pedal with the other. Would have been cool
though.


My memory is almost sure you gave at least one hand-driven pedal rev to
keep your speed up, but you were a lot closer to the action than I was!



When I think about all the great stories associated with Blaine (Erv on
the podium, Ken & Paul in their final sprint, the Connie & Renee
rivalry, Bart, Miche & Whiteman in their three-up rep, Bart crashing on
the tandem, Rory O's second chance kilo, etc.) - Carls 'superman' is
still one of most memorable images I can conjure from my shooting career.

Mike G.
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Let's see a photo.

Magilla
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Old January 28th 08, 10:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Carl Sundquist wrote:


"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
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"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
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Michelle Wie is making 6-figures so it's not child prostitution -
it's more like "child turning pro early and making more money than if
she waited."



The message is still the same, but your numbers are off:

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/4ZKC.html



And I forsee a Kournikova-like athletic future for her.



Nah, she doesn't have the personality (or looks) of Anna K. People
will try to make her into an Anna K. - just like they're trying to do
to Maria Sharapova. But when all is said and done, neither Michelle nor
Maria will ever get close to Kournikova's sexiness.


Magilla
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Old January 28th 08, 10:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 28, 5:49*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:


Nah, she doesn't have the personality (or looks) of Anna K. * People
will try to make her into an Anna K. *- just like they're trying to do
to Maria Sharapova. *But when all is said and done, neither Michelle nor
Maria will ever get close to Kournikova's sexiness.

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, but Sharapova has got game. None of the others do.
Bill C
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Old January 28th 08, 11:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
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Carl Sundquist wrote:

And I forsee a Kournikova-like athletic future for her.



Nah, she doesn't have the personality (or looks) of Anna K. People will
try to make her into an Anna K. - just like they're trying to do to Maria
Sharapova. But when all is said and done, neither Michelle nor Maria will
ever get close to Kournikova's sexiness.


I didn't say anything about her marketability, personality or sexiness. I
said I predict she will have an athletic career similar to Kournikova.

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Old January 28th 08, 11:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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MagillaGorilla wrote:

Michael Press wrote:

In article ,
MagillaGorilla wrote:


Michael Press wrote:


In article ,
MagillaGorilla wrote:



Scott wrote:


On Jan 26, 10:22 am, MagillaGorilla wrote:



Bret wrote:



"That kid is on a whole other level at 17 years old. He's truly
gifted. He's doing things right now, today, off the couch, that 90
percent of the world's population would never attain no matter how
good the training. He's another species. He's neither slow-twitch nor
fast-twitch, he's 'all-twitch.'"

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13945.0.html

So Allen Lim consider a guy who has been racing and riding a bike at
altitude for the past 12 years to be someone who is "off the couch."

Magilla


Dumbass (hey, that felt good, I called him a dumbass)

If you knew anything at all about mini-Phinney, you'd know he'd been
riding very recreationally at best up until he started racing two
years ago. He's been kicking ass and taking names since stepping up
to the elite cats.

You can bring up Evanshine or whomever you want as an example of a
shining star that faded away, but none of the folks you bring up had
parents, or a support structure, like Taylor. All the difference in
the world.


Everybody I brought up had parents. It's an undisputed fact.

I would like to bring up Evanshine again. He won worlds and then he
imploded. What ever happened to Tyler Farrar - I thought he was suppose
to be the next big deal? How about Roy Knickman? What about Poppy-bitch?

The fact is if mini-Phinney grows up and tries to ride clean on
Slipsemen with Anorexic Drew Carey, he will ride himself into oblivion.

Winning a World Athletic Cup event on the TRACK in the U.S. is a lot
like Evanshine winning worlds in Colorado. Most of the Olympic medal
contenders for the pursuit don't even want to be good right now because
it's a waste of time, money, and emotions.

I am confident Phinney will be outside the medals in Beijing.
Everything about his ramp-up is wrong. All these early season world
athletic cup events dilutes their importance because few of the top
people contest them and even fewer show up in an Olympic year.

Phinney winning a World Athletic Cup pursuit in an Olympic year is like
Mari Holden winning the world championship in the time trial in an
Olympic year. The real world championships in an Olympic year is the
****ing Olympics. In 2000, van Moorsel was the world chammpion in the
time trial, not Mari Holden.

**** the LA gerbil wheel.


It is good for a youngster to learn how to win.
Let it be where ever. If he is pummeled in the
top events, then there you are. It is easy to
bet the percentages and say he will become fodder.



Winning cheap and easy is what did in Magen Long and is what defines
junior racing. It's bad because it teaches riders to expect victories
to come fast and easy when in fact victories in the elite ranks are rare
and hard to come by.

Junior racing is a form of child prostitution and should be treated as a
federal crime.



You prefer Mary Pierce and Michelle Wie getting thrown into
the thresher? I agree whole heartedly that children's and
teenager's sport is interfered with to the detriment of the participants.

A champion will prevail. You are a bit too easy calling
those victories `easy.' Superior tools and good training
do not guarantee victory. One must learn how to win, a statement
that you are ignoring.



Michelle Wie is making 6-figures so it's not child prostitution - it's
more like "child turning pro early and making more money than if she
waited."

In cycling, it's prostitution. That's why Lynn Gaggioli quit the sport
- because even at the elite level it's still a form of prostitution.

It's wrong to teach little girls how too win at an early age -
especially against weak competition.


I maintain that learning how to win is an important lesson.
There are other lessons such as managing adversity and
putting in the work necessary to achieve a goal.

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Michael Press
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Old January 28th 08, 11:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Bill C wrote:

On Jan 28, 5:49*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:


Nah, she doesn't have the personality (or looks) of Anna K. * People
will try to make her into an Anna K. *- just like they're trying to do
to Maria Sharapova. *But when all is said and done, neither Michelle nor
Maria will ever get close to Kournikova's sexiness.

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, but Sharapova has got game. None of the others do.


Just so.

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Michael Press
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Old January 29th 08, 12:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Bill C wrote:

On Jan 28, 5:49 pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:


Nah, she doesn't have the personality (or looks) of Anna K. People
will try to make her into an Anna K. - just like they're trying to do
to Maria Sharapova. But when all is said and done, neither Michelle nor
Maria will ever get close to Kournikova's sexiness.

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Yeah, but Sharapova has got game. None of the others do.
Bill C



Sharapova gets her ass kicked by the Williams sisters. Sure she won
Australia, but that's a second-rate Grand Slam.

Magilla
 




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