Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters andsidewalks

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:33:27 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
wrote:

On Apr 22, 2:49*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

What do you need to survive in the jungle?

- Knife (for peeling fruits)

- CD player (to block out noise from roaring lions)

Waste of space and batteries. *If you need music, an MP3 player is
much better, and most run off (2) AAA batteries, which may be
recharged from a simple solar cell charger. *Best get one with a radio
in it.



- Toilet paper (often toilets are out of them)

- Lipstics and mirror (ladies only)

Chapstick yes, wtf lipstick?????

In the cement jungle, ladies do their lips all the time. Too bad if
they don't see the cyclist.

Huh?



- Bananas (to eat, they can be dried)

They are good, but not all that good.

They say "it's the perfect food"...

They were wrong. Beans and rice combined are the perfect food.
Bananas will keep you going for a very long time indeed, but you will
ultimately have issues with missing trace elements and amino acids.




OK, what else?

From the Red Crosshttp://columbus.redcross.org/guide.html
Femahttp://outlands.tripod.com/survival/fema-215.htm

http://www.survival-center.com/foodf...er.com/UG.html

Urban survivalhttp://www.instructables.com/id/Urban-Survival:-Build-a-Pallet-Shelter/http://outdoors-magazine.com/spip.php?article61

Links to survival by the homelesshttp://guide2homelessness.blogspot.com/

Just a few sources of information.

You want to learn? We would be happy to teach you.

Well, it's always good. I want to dry foods for my canoe trips and
have somewhat successful, but I mostly do daytrips.

Where you may have rescue.

Now what do you have stored at home or in your vehicle?

Can you manage 72 hours at 2 minutes notice? How about 3 weeks?

Gunner


Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Gunner Asch wrote:

Shrug..ask the Italians. They pioneered the moped as I recall.

Ahh, mon ami, it was le Frogs with the Veelosolex, then the German DKW team
improved and popularised it. The Italians invented the scooter.

Theo

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:41:28 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
wrote:

On Apr 22, 2:56*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:40:44 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana





wrote:
On Apr 21, 5:53 pm, Eric Vey wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:

I simply quoted that article, but I share his concern. Settling
something with a finger or a gun are two different things.

The result of the equation above is that people are exposed to a real
threat, particularly if they assert their right with a finger. And
while few people actually get shot, the rest of the population live in
fear. Particularly the cyclists.

And we would have to start with changing the laws of the republic...

Florida gives you an option to deal with this:http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html

That's the only option left... In the jungle, if everybody got paws
and teeth, you better get ready yourself.

Only that it's kind of impractical for cyclists to carry a gun under a
lycra short. But then you can wear a T-shirt like this...

http://www.zazzle.com/donquijote1954...83217745636359

Actually, a fanny pack designed for weapons carry is far better when
bike riding

http://www.chuckhawks.com/galco_esco...al/ai_63922920

Or even an impromptu one.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...ual/ai_6162097...


I knew you were the right kind of people when it comes to survival.

You know, originally I was very anti gun, but then I realized that the
Swiss have more guns (not handguns) per capita than America. I think
the real issue is education, but I don't see anything happening in
that front either.

Every..and I repeat Every school in American once had gun safety
course, school rifle teams, hunting safety courses and so forth.
I used to shoot on my highschool rifle team, most kids brought their
shotguns and rifles to school as they hunted before and after classes
during deer season and so forth. My first metal shop project was
rebuilding a very elderly .44 Colt peacemaker.

All brought to a screeching halt by the anti-gun zealots.
When the educational system is controlled by Liberals..the last thing
they want is anything to do with firearms.

This of course is tantamount to refusing to teach children to properly
cross the street, how to avoid molesters, not to drop and roll when in
flames and so forth.

Actually..its intentional, as an ignorant group of children are bound
to have accidents with firearms, and blood and death makes good press
for the antigun agenda.

Its like those that want cars to be removed from hiways, preventing
any sort of drivers training. There is NO way to keep kids from guns.
Fact of life. Same with smokes, booze and dope.

Yet the antigunners want as many accidents as possible to push their
agenda. Bloody *******s no?

Btw..the National Rifle Association offers FREE firearms safety
training to any school.
The Eddie Eagle program is exceptionally well thought of and works
very very well in preventing children accidents with firearms.
http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/

Yet many school administrators refuse to have anything to do with it.

The mantra the program teaches kids is:

If you see a gun:

STOP!
Don't Touch.
Leave the Area.
Tell an Adult.


Yet the Leftards dont want your kids to learn that.

Pitiful, isnt it?
Putting the antigun agenda over the lives of children.
Of course, if children learn that the safe handling of firearms is
fun, the antigunners dont get all those donations and its far harder
to demonize gun owners.



My girlfriend wants a handgun for the overnight canoe trips, but we'll
see. The worst predators out there are not criminals, but speeding
motorboats.

Those speeding motorboats are piloted by criminals if they dont
observe the "rules of the road"

2 legged varmints come in all shapes, sizes, colors and modes of
locomotion.

A handgun is a handy tool, if you are well trained in its useage and
the responsibility that goes with it.

However you may be as well served with a small folding .22 rifle or
shotgun.

Also, you should be aware that firearms are illegal in many parks etc.
Just to let you know....

Gunner


Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Gunner Asch wrote:
[...]
Btw..the National Rifle Association offers FREE firearms safety
training to any school.
The Eddie Eagle program is exceptionally well thought of and works
very very well in preventing children accidents with firearms.
http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/ [...]

The program was named after a mediocre British ski jumper?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:38:25 +0800, "Theo Bekkers"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:

Shrug..ask the Italians. They pioneered the moped as I recall.

Ahh, mon ami, it was le Frogs with the Veelosolex, then the German DKW team
improved and popularised it. The Italians invented the scooter.

Theo



Mon Du!! Sacre Bleu! Mea Culpa!!

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:31:34 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
wrote:

On Apr 21, 6:27*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:14:34 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana





wrote:

The big question is now..since you are much lower than before..how is
your visibility to other vehicles? Id hope you have a flag on a stick
of some sort to attempt to catch the attention of other vehicle
operators.

A friend of mine builds recombent bikes, and has had some really close
calls because of the lower profile and lower visiblity. He now puts a
flag on a bit of graphite tent pole when interacting with motor
vehicles. *The is the reason many of the electric powered chair riders
do this as well. If you blend in...you wont be seen.

Gunner

No, this is not a recumbent, just semi-recumbent. High enough to see
and be seen.

Perhaps you might wish to have somone ride your trike, while you
follow in a high profile vehicle such as an SUV, to determine just how
visible your ride really is? *Try not to run over him/her.

The trike is really visible. I rode 15 miles today, and at one time I
had to take the street, where, again, I was honked at by an SUV. Do
they mean "hi" or "get out of my way"?

It was back alleys and sidewalks after that.

Good. Hope it continues to be visible to ALL drivers.

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:08:21 -0500, Tom Sherman
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
[...]
Btw..the National Rifle Association offers FREE firearms safety
training to any school.
The Eddie Eagle program is exceptionally well thought of and works
very very well in preventing children accidents with firearms.
http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/ [...]

The program was named after a mediocre British ski jumper?


Nope.

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

On Apr 22, 9:34*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:33:27 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana





wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:49*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

What do you need to survive in the jungle?

- Knife (for peeling fruits)

- CD player (to block out noise from roaring lions)

Waste of space and batteries. *If you need music, an MP3 player is
much better, and most run off (2) AAA batteries, which may be
recharged from a simple solar cell charger. *Best get one with a radio
in it.

- Toilet paper (often toilets are out of them)

- Lipstics and mirror (ladies only)

Chapstick yes, wtf lipstick?????

In the cement jungle, ladies do their lips all the time. Too bad if
they don't see the cyclist.

Huh?



- Bananas (to eat, they can be dried)

They are good, but not all that good.

They say "it's the perfect food"...

They were wrong. *Beans and rice combined are the perfect food.
Bananas will keep you going for a very long time indeed, but you will
ultimately have issues with missing trace elements and amino acids.

I LOVE rice and beans, but I guess it would have to be brown rice to
be nutritious.

Well, it's always good. I want to dry foods for my canoe trips and
have somewhat successful, but I mostly do daytrips.

Where you may have rescue.

Yeah, no more than a mile away from shore.


Now what do you have stored at home or in your vehicle?

Can you manage 72 hours at 2 minutes notice? How about 3 weeks?

Nope. I don't see the case in preparing for WWIII.

I think we should work toward prevent it though.

On Apr 22, 9:56*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

All brought to a screeching halt by the anti-gun zealots.
When the educational system is controlled by Liberals..the last thing
they want is anything to do with firearms.

You bet I'm not a Conservative, but I see a sort of Libertarian model
fitting for America... the Swiss (and they even have universal
healthcare and tough environmental policies for those on the left)...

DIFFERENT CULTURES, DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS. The apparent contradiction
between "no king of the jungle" and Scandinavia, where they have
royalty, is easy to explain: Their lion have been tamed, or better
said, he was smart enough to tame himself (though still there in
international affairs). It ranks #1 in standard of living, but that is
due to having the lowest corruption in the world AND having high
taxes, something unlikely to be desired by many... But other systems
are available: First, the decentralized Swiss system* has a lower
taxation rate and introduces a very democratic principle among
competitive cantons and communes: VOTE WITH YOUR FEET; second, the
successful cooperatives that exist in places like Israel, the Basque
Country and Denmark. Coops are the ideal in that there's no lion in
them. They can reach the 'good life' even without money.

*The Swiss model is an alternative for those who hate the word
"socialism" in any form and it's cited by the Libertarians.

On Apr 22, 11:39*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message

...
[...]

I knew you were the right kind of people when it comes to survival.

Gunner Ass is an asshole - and so are you!

You know, originally I was very anti gun, but then I realized that the

Swiss have more guns (not handguns) per capita than America. I think
the real issue is education, but I don't see anything happening in
that front either.

And you think Americans are in any way comparable to the civilized Swiss?

No, but they could be if there was the political will.


My girlfriend wants a handgun for the overnight canoe trips, but we'll

see. The worst predators out there are not criminals, but speeding
motorboats.

There is no way in this world an asshole like you could possibly have a girl
friend. What is she, some kind of freak from an insane asylum? The one thing
I know for sure is that I do not want an asshole like Gunner (he has murder
in his heart) and a poor crazy fool like you anywhere near guns. Instead of
posting nonsense to these honorable newsgroups, why don't you just go ****
yourself. Better yet, take that asshole Gunner with you. He knows all about
cocksucking so you should have lots of fun together.

And do you offer any *****ing* solution, old man? I think Alzheimer
has taken over your neurotic neurons.