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OT More Pentagon lies and mismanagement
On Apr 26, 5:29 pm, Curtis L. Russell wrote:
On 26 Apr 2007 12:10:20 -0700, Bill C wrote: Even with everything, if I could, I'd go back if they called. Man, that's a thought that never crosses my mind. If it did, I'd kill it like a rat. Let's see: Military (U.S.Army) Slept in barracks with a bunch of guys Sometimes got to work seven on, none off,12 hours a day, weeks and even months on end Went to work in the dark, a lot OK, got to work in the dark, by the Army's intention Top had such a great attitude about life, especially the portion still living... I had such a great attitude about life, living and dead Traveled in the back of a truck, way too much Why does putting peas in Jello make it its own food group? And really, that was coffee? Civilian Sleep with my wife, occasionally visited by Scotties (the Australian Shepherd was worse) Rarely work over 50 hours a week, at least not by much. And have the weekends off. Generally go to work in daytime, although DC and Baltimore traffic aren't especially fun Pretty much no longer in the dark at work, which is a good thing when you are both the controller and the HR manager Boss has a suspiciously good attitude toward fellow human beings (OK, unlike Top, he is easily identified as a fellow human being) And I'm thinking much better about most human beings, although I make exceptions Mostly travel in the Prius, which is good because I'm not sure I'm still able to navigate the back of the truck thing Have recognized pretty much everything I've eaten and drank over the last few years, and not once has my wife made Jello with suspicious vegetable additives. We tried the Jello-vodka thing once and it is nothing like peas or lettuce. A couple of suspicious looking beers and wines, maybe... Coffee isn't always perfect, but I've never left cleaner in the pot before making the first pot of the morning. Advantages, military: Got to see the world, at least the part where some of their people were trying to kill some of ours and vice versa. Universal health care, including the doctor that misidentified which ankle was sprained. Local idigenous women, followed by locally applied medicine by injection (and this was when I was stationed at the Monterey Presidio...). Reenlistment bonuses paid in cash while surrounded by guys getting $ 67 a month (You got it, now get it home). And my very own M16 with my name taped to the stock. Nah, the only thing that would make me go back is the fact they have the weapons and seem to be willing to use them damn near anywhere. OTOH, I'm even more useless to the Army now than when I was 23. Which, I guess, makes me promotable right back to SSG. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Yep, I used to enjoy waking up, hung over, to the noise from the Army folks running in formation. We'd hang out our AF dorm windows and give them ****. They used to give me **** because they made e-4 under 2 years. Hell will be frozen solid before that happens in the AF, or anything even close. That's also a big part of the reason my wife went Army. Both my wife and I have been at co-located bases everywhere except my tour with the 1916 Comm. Squadron at Pease AFB in NH, supporting the 509th Bomb Wing. Got nephews in everything but the AF. I'd go back for the same reason I went in, in the first place. The country needs people to stand up while the idiot politicians sort out the **** they got us into. This is an incredible country, no matter how you look at, and we owe it a lot for the privileges it gives. Whether you give back at a shelter or whatever we all owe it to ourselves to work for it. That and it's a huge family we've never really left who speak our language, understand the things we do, and the things we say that shock civilians. Or I could just be brain damaged and in love/hate mode. Looks like our daughter isn't going to go to West Point since she struggles with the math, which I'm fine with, though she really wanted to. Bill C |
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OT More Pentagon lies and mismanagement
On Apr 27, 7:14 pm, Bill C wrote:
On Apr 26, 5:29 pm, Curtis L. Russell wrote: On 26 Apr 2007 12:10:20 -0700, Bill C wrote: Even with everything, if I could, I'd go back if they called. Man, that's a thought that never crosses my mind. If it did, I'd kill it like a rat. Let's see: Military (U.S.Army) Slept in barracks with a bunch of guys Sometimes got to work seven on, none off,12 hours a day, weeks and even months on end Went to work in the dark, a lot OK, got to work in the dark, by the Army's intention Top had such a great attitude about life, especially the portion still living... I had such a great attitude about life, living and dead Traveled in the back of a truck, way too much Why does putting peas in Jello make it its own food group? And really, that was coffee? Civilian Sleep with my wife, occasionally visited by Scotties (the Australian Shepherd was worse) Rarely work over 50 hours a week, at least not by much. And have the weekends off. Generally go to work in daytime, although DC and Baltimore traffic aren't especially fun Pretty much no longer in the dark at work, which is a good thing when you are both the controller and the HR manager Boss has a suspiciously good attitude toward fellow human beings (OK, unlike Top, he is easily identified as a fellow human being) And I'm thinking much better about most human beings, although I make exceptions Mostly travel in the Prius, which is good because I'm not sure I'm still able to navigate the back of the truck thing Have recognized pretty much everything I've eaten and drank over the last few years, and not once has my wife made Jello with suspicious vegetable additives. We tried the Jello-vodka thing once and it is nothing like peas or lettuce. A couple of suspicious looking beers and wines, maybe... Coffee isn't always perfect, but I've never left cleaner in the pot before making the first pot of the morning. Advantages, military: Got to see the world, at least the part where some of their people were trying to kill some of ours and vice versa. Universal health care, including the doctor that misidentified which ankle was sprained. Local idigenous women, followed by locally applied medicine by injection (and this was when I was stationed at the Monterey Presidio...). Reenlistment bonuses paid in cash while surrounded by guys getting $ 67 a month (You got it, now get it home). And my very own M16 with my name taped to the stock. Nah, the only thing that would make me go back is the fact they have the weapons and seem to be willing to use them damn near anywhere. OTOH, I'm even more useless to the Army now than when I was 23. Which, I guess, makes me promotable right back to SSG. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... This is an incredible country, no matter how you look at, and we owe it a lot for the privileges it gives. Whether you give back at a shelter or whatever we all owe it to ourselves to work for it. Bill C- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - We may not always be perfect, and lots of times it's a fight but the general trend is towards freedom. By comparison with just about anywhere we are more free and equal. These are examples why I'd stand up and fight for our country, as cornball as my taqke might be to some of the cynical ****heads that show up here occasionally: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6599437.stm Quoted: Under Sharia law, adopted in the state seven years ago, homosexuality and same-sex marriages are outlawed and considered very serious offences. The theatre where the elaborate wedding celebration was held on Sunday has been demolished by Kano city's authorities. http://tinyurl.com/yuut99 Quoted: CONCORD, N.H. - The Rev. V. Gene Robinson became the Episcopal Church's first openly gay bishop. Now, he and his partner want to be among the first gay couples in New Hampshire to officially unite under a soon-to-be-signed civil unions law. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6600839.stm Quoted: Actor Richard Gere has apologised for causing offence when he kissed Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty. The incident, at an AIDS awareness event in Delhi, prompted public protests and then an arrest warrant for both stars over the "obscene act". http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...miebabies.html 'It's been 3 years' Parents who lost their children in the outbreak wonder why they were kept in the dark. "It's been three years, and in our mind, our little girl died of a heart attack," said Edwine Jacques, who gave birth to her daughter Kaysha-Edwina in August 2004. Last week, hospital officials contacted her and told her Kaysha- Edwina had been infected with Pseudomonas aeruginosa, the main cause of her death. So Jacques is left wondering why the hospital never came clean with her daughter's medical condition. http://www.torontosun.com/News/Toron...30882-sun.html He didn't want to be a fat man anymore. Tipping the scales at more than 500 pounds on his 5-foot-10 frame, Jamie Bogart was dying to be thin. But for years, the Ontario government ignored his pleas for help in battling his morbid obesity, turning down his requests for American treatment and leaving him to fight his disease on his own. At one desperate point in 1999, he told the Sun in a front page story that without help, he was destined to eat himself to death. Last week, his grim prediction came true. Most of us take what we have for granted, find all the faults, glorify everyone else. The grass is always greener somnewhere else in peoples minds. The reality is something different. We get so focused on all the negatives that we lose sight of the overwhelming positives. I'm unashamedly patriotic and pro American. That also means I will defend to the death my freedom, and others to criticise us. We are us, the US, the government. You get what you vote for and allow to happen. At least here noone sends tanks to slaughter those who object. I'll show up to defend that last sentence if our government ever chooses to go there, because that's what we are about as a nation. We're about an idea and a 200+ year old document stating that idea. We need to defend that from current, internal, threats warping patriotism and pride as well as from outside threats. We sure as hell aren't perfect, but we need to citizens to accept their responsibility and fight for our freedoms against ALL enemies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._of_Allegiance The United States Military Oath of Allegiance is a solemn oath taken by members of the United States Armed Services on commissioning. It differs slightly from that of the oath of enlistment that enlisted members recite when they enter the service. Text of the Oath I, {insert name here}, do solemnly swear, (or affirm), that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. (Note that the last sentence is not required to be said if the speaker has a personal or moral objection Enlisted Oath: The oath of enlistment into the United States Armed Forces is administered by any commissioned officer to any person enlisting or re- enlisting for a term of service into any branch of the military. The officer asks the person, or persons, to raise their right hand and repeat the oath after him. The oath is traditionally performed in front of the United States Flag and other flags, such as the state flag, military branch flag, and unit guidon may be present. The oath is as follows: "I, (state your name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. I guess the sermon is over. I just wish that those who condemn dissent, and those who slam the military would realise that we are defending that piece of paper and what it means. The US was based in dissent. Bill C |
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OT More Pentagon lies and mismanagement
Well, here you go. Why valuable contributors like Mark have gone whilst
useless parasites upon the body politic like the OP and Tomlison remain. Sad, really. |
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OT More Pentagon lies and mismanagement
On Apr 30, 8:14 pm, Paul Cassel
wrote: Well, here you go. Why valuable contributors like Mark have gone whilst useless parasites upon the body politic like the OP and Tomlison remain. Sad, really. Mark who? OP |
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OT More Pentagon lies and mismanagement
On May 1, 9:34 am, Curtis L. Russell wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:14:18 -0600, Paul Cassel wrote: Well, here you go. Why valuable contributors like Mark have gone whilst useless parasites upon the body politic like the OP and Tomlison remain. Sad, really. Adding this to an OT thread shows the irrelevancy. You pick trivial things to be sad about, especially since Lafferty is back. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... The judgement is a bit lacking too. Cassel's got to be somebody JT has beaten regulary in races, or took to the woodshed in a discussion because there sure as hell isn't anything he's done that I know of that would merit that attitude and comment. Bill C |
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OT More Pentagon lies and mismanagement
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:14:18 -0600, Paul Cassel
wrote: Well, here you go. Why valuable contributors like Mark have gone whilst useless parasites upon the body politic like the OP and Tomlison remain. Sad, really. Adding this to an OT thread shows the irrelevancy. You pick trivial things to be sad about, especially since Lafferty is back. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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On 30 Apr 2007 21:31:08 -0700, Bret wrote:
On Apr 30, 8:14 pm, Paul Cassel wrote: Well, here you go. Why valuable contributors like Mark have gone whilst useless parasites upon the body politic like the OP and Tomlison remain. Sad, really. Mark who? OP Twain. Source of al quotes not directly attributable to Benjamin Franklin or Ralph Waldo Emerson. rbr factoid. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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OT More Pentagon lies and mismanagement
Not Pentagon, and maybe not lies...notice the male speaker never gives
the simple answer of "No:" http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/...Bush-Comey.wmv -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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OT More Pentagon lies and mismanagement
On May 17, 3:24 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote: Not Pentagon, and maybe not lies...notice the male speaker never gives the simple answer of "No:" http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/...NBC-Bush-Comey... -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visithttp://www.jt10000.com **************************** Yep. I NEVER would've pictured Ashcroft as a sympathetic figure, but this is totally ridiculous. It's gotten to the point where profanity and recounting episode after episode of this crap doesn't even begin to piant the picture. UMass wants to give Card an honorary degree and I don't think it's going to happen due to the protests. If they try and award it they'll have a riot on their hands and they know it. There's just no low they won't sink to in advancing their global vision. Unfortunately they've created a disaster where millions are going to die no matter which course anyone takes now. If I was a Democrat I wouldn't want the Presidency coming up because the disaster is just going to get worse. "Yep I yanked out the US troops which triggered a huge sectarian genocide which then expanded into a regional war by proxy in which several million people have been killed." or "We needed to keep US troops on the ground to prevent destabilising the whole region and that's why they have been able to kill thousand of US troops, and continue to expand terrorism around the globe." There is no good way out of this and if it explodes the world wont let the US off the hook like they did for SE Asia, especially since almost Country in the region except the Iranian backed folks are insisting that the US can't leave right now because it will be a complete disaster. One sad thing is that this Administration will never admit that the whole thing was a complete cluter**** and created by them. How much better does another series of air strikes on suspected nuclear facilities after Husseins jerking around the UN look instead of a totally screwed occupation. Bush wanted a war there at all costs, and only history will be able to count that cost, and those'll just be estimates in the end because of the scale of the disaster. Bill C |
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On 17 May 2007 13:20:25 -0700, Bill C wrote:
How much better does another series of air strikes on suspected nuclear facilities after Husseins jerking around the UN look instead of a totally screwed occupation. The world is seriously messed up when a die-hard liberal like me agrees that air strikes like that would be better than what we have now, and I think John Fricking Ashcroft was doing a better job as Attorney General than what we have now. W T F??? -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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