Cyclists vs blind people

On 27/08/2014 14:04, Mrcheerful wrote:

More generally I have been meaning to make my bike noisy for town riding
but haven't quite figured out the best way.

the old way is the easiest and cheapest: bit of plastic tied so that it
gets tapped by the spokes.

Yep, your probably right.

On 27/08/2014 15:03, Rob Morley wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:03:46 +0100
Nick wrote:

More generally I have been meaning to make my bike noisy for town
riding but haven't quite figured out the best way.

Adjust a brake (probably the rear one) so it squeals when applied?
Pedestrians tend to notice you when they think you're panic-braking and
about to hit them.


Once I know there is a problem I could just yell but by then it might be
too late. The point of making the bike noisy is it lets everyone know
I'm there before there is a problem. i.e it might stop a random ped just
stepping off the pavement without looking.

"Nick" wrote in message
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On 27/08/2014 15:03, Rob Morley wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:03:46 +0100
Nick wrote:

More generally I have been meaning to make my bike noisy for town
riding but haven't quite figured out the best way.

Adjust a brake (probably the rear one) so it squeals when applied?
Pedestrians tend to notice you when they think you're panic-braking and
about to hit them.


Once I know there is a problem I could just yell but by then it might be
too late. The point of making the bike noisy is it lets everyone know
I'm there before there is a problem. i.e it might stop a random ped just
stepping off the pavement without looking.

Which I admit to doing .................

On 27/08/2014 20:32, Nick wrote:
On 27/08/2014 15:03, Rob Morley wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:03:46 +0100
Nick wrote:

More generally I have been meaning to make my bike noisy for town
riding but haven't quite figured out the best way.

Adjust a brake (probably the rear one) so it squeals when applied?
Pedestrians tend to notice you when they think you're panic-braking and
about to hit them.


Once I know there is a problem I could just yell but by then it might be
too late. The point of making the bike noisy is it lets everyone know
I'm there before there is a problem. i.e it might stop a random ped just
stepping off the pavement without looking.


I used to ride an old British single motorcycle with a practically
ineffective silencer, although it would trickle along reasonably
quietly, either blipping the throttle or rolling it off made loads of
noise, it was more effective than a horn at keeping people on pavements
and cars in line.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:03:46 +0100, Nick wrote:

On 27/08/2014 10:43, Bod wrote:


One must assume that those cyclists must be blind as well if they
can't avoid a dog.

A lot of dog green cross code seems to involve listening rather than
looking and they don't hear bikes.

So its always prudent to make some sort of noise when approaching a dog
on a bike.

I think you will find that dogs have rather more sense than that.

On 27/08/2014 18:26, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message
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On 27/08/2014 11:30, Tarcap wrote:


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On 27/08/2014 09:59, Peter Keller wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 09:36:03 +0100, Judith wrote:

A quarter of guide dogs working in London have been hit by a bike,
according to the organisation Guide Dogs.

A survey involving a fifth of guide dog owners in the city also found
70% had experienced a near miss with cyclists on pavements or jumping
red lights.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-28945834

Fascinating.

One must assume that those cyclists must be blind as well if they
can't avoid a dog.

No, just arrogant, stupid and incredibly selfish. No change there, then.


It's a shame, as those who do things like that give us * decent cyclists
a bad name.

You missed the word "few" out.


I've heard about these rogue cyclists, but I haven't seen any dodgy ones
around here.
You never seem to moan about all of the uninsured vehicle drivers:
Millionth uninsured vehicle seized | Money | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/money/201...vehicle-seized

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:30:47 +0100, Tarcap wrote:

arrogant, stupid and incredibly selfish.

And thank you very much for your compliments.
I am now working towards the even greater accolades of being grimy,
squalid, nasty, profane, foul and disgusting, and full of **** which I
spew down your throat.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:39:19 +0100, JNugent wrote:

On 27/08/2014 13:03, Nick wrote:
On 27/08/2014 10:43, Bod wrote:


One must assume that those cyclists must be blind as well if they
can't avoid a dog.

A lot of dog green cross code seems to involve listening rather than
looking and they don't hear bikes.

So its always prudent to make some sort of noise when approaching a dog
on a bike.

More generally I have been meaning to make my bike noisy for town
riding but haven't quite figured out the best way.

In Central London, one common method is to yell or scream: "Out of my
f***** way, you f****** c***(s)".

I do the some thing, except that I just make a loud noise and brake
hard. No words, abusive, insulting or otherwise.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:28:06 +0100, Judith wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:03:46 +0100, Nick wrote:

On 27/08/2014 10:43, Bod wrote:


One must assume that those cyclists must be blind as well if they
can't avoid a dog.

A lot of dog green cross code seems to involve listening rather than
looking and they don't hear bikes.

So its always prudent to make some sort of noise when approaching a dog
on a bike.

I think you will find that dogs have rather more sense than that.

Some don't.
However, yelling at the dog and perhaps wielding the pump might work
against a rushing dog.

On 27/08/2014 20:32, Nick wrote:
On 27/08/2014 15:03, Rob Morley wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:03:46 +0100
Nick wrote:

More generally I have been meaning to make my bike noisy for town
riding but haven't quite figured out the best way.

Adjust a brake (probably the rear one) so it squeals when applied?
Pedestrians tend to notice you when they think you're panic-braking and
about to hit them.


Once I know there is a problem I could just yell but by then it might be
too late. The point of making the bike noisy is it lets everyone know
I'm there before there is a problem. i.e it might stop a random ped just
stepping off the pavement without looking.

Why not just ring your bell?