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Old May 26th 04, 10:37 AM
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Mark Hickey wrote:
Zoot Katz wrote:


Tue, 25 May 2004 14:03:53 -0700,
, Mark Hickey
wrote:
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"A really long post my reader didn't download (I have a limit of 300
lines - any post longer than that is wasting bandwidth)."



Yep, I just noticed that myownself. Apparently there's no limitation
to the outbound size.

Either way, it's a sure sign that the thread should be finished.

Hitler.

That oughta do it.


http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms...win_s_Law.html

Bzzzt! Intentional invocation of Godwin's law means you lose.



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Old May 26th 04, 01:37 PM
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David Kerber wrote:


David are you saying that an earlier eruption of Krakatoa caused the
"Little Ice Age"? Can you post a reference? I thought it was just a
ripple in a larger wave - the slow ending of the last real ice age.


It wasn't me who said that; look at the indenting level, it was two
levels of posts before mine.


Right you are. Sorry bout that. I see Frank wasn't quite saying that
either. Volcanoes have caused dark years at times.
Bernie

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Old May 26th 04, 02:29 PM
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In article , bmcilvan@mouse-
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David Kerber wrote:


David are you saying that an earlier eruption of Krakatoa caused the
"Little Ice Age"? Can you post a reference? I thought it was just a
ripple in a larger wave - the slow ending of the last real ice age.


It wasn't me who said that; look at the indenting level, it was two
levels of posts before mine.


Right you are. Sorry bout that. I see Frank wasn't quite saying that
either. Volcanoes have caused dark years at times.


That is certainly true, but I don't know if the "mini ice age" was
connected to one or not. There was a time in the early 1800's which was
called "the year without a summer" in New England, which IIRC was caused
by the eruption of Tambora.

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Old May 26th 04, 06:58 PM
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Frank Krygowski wrote in message ...
Mark Hickey wrote:

(Jonesy) wrote:

A really long post my reader didn't download (I have a limit of 300
lines - any post longer than that is wasting bandwidth).

It's obvious you want to argue just to get in typing practice.

Carry on, but without me, please.


You know, Mark, I was thinking that Jonesy gave some very instructive
information in there. Although I know most of what's in
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
I think it's an excellent source, and I think he used it effectively to
illustrate where your thinking has gone wrong in several ways.

Perhaps you should go to Google groups, or some other source, to
overcome your newsreader's limitations, so you can learn from that post.



The worst part is that if I had not actually quoted the contents, the
post would have fit in under Mark's "limit." If the "limit" actually
exists.

But links sometimes don't get read...
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Old May 26th 04, 07:08 PM
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Mark Hickey wrote in message . ..
Tom Sherman wrote:

Mark Hickey wrote:

...
Here's a clue... global warming doesn't exist. There's been a net
cooling trend for decades, and the effect of the Kyoto accord would be
at best a small fraction of 1 degree centigrade over the next century
(at a truly horrendous cost to the US economy). But let's not go over
that well-plowed land again....


No climatologists believe the above except those on the payrolls (or
funded by) the hydrocarbon extraction industry. The consensus is that
global warming is taking place, but the US corporate media pays undue
attention to the few climatoligists that disagree. Even that hotbed of
left-wing radicals, the US Department of Defense now believes that
global warming is a significant threat to US security.


You need to do some more reading on the subject.


Good advice. You should take it. Include in your research real,
peer-reviewed studies, not some quote from the Rush Limbaugh website.

The best data on the
subject shows that there has been a net cooling trend - not a warming
trend.


Tell that to the permafrost, glaciers and polar ice caps. They will
be quite relieved to hear that all this time they have been growing,
instead of shrinking, in size.

Those pushing the global warming agenda tend to be those who are
raking in lots of research dollars doing it.


Ad hominem commentary means that your argument is lost:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...d-hominem.html

There are petitions
signed by tens of thousands of scientists who believe the science and
methods used to come to the conclusion that global warming is
happening are flawed.


"Scientists" is nebulous term. Climatologists?

But don't take my word for it - look up the NOAA data on temperature
trends.


What about the data on shrinking glaciers and ice caps? Maybe physics
are different in Right-Wing-Land?
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Old May 26th 04, 07:10 PM
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Frank Krygowski

wrote:

Well, since the current rationalization for our $100 billion adventure
is that Saddam was evil, somebody needs to explain how we decide exactly
which evil dictators are evil enough to justify invasion.

Apparently, not everyone on the "evil dictator" list qualifies. And not
every terribly repressive country gets invaded.

Some of the repressive countries just serve as sources for inexpensive
bike frames. Others serve as sources for oil. Others, with no major
resources to sell us, go completely unnoticed.


Leaving aside your unsupported hyperbole describing the Saudi Crown Prince as
"one of the world's worst dictators" (censorship of dissent by government is a
bad thing but it scarcely compares to genocide and murder of dissidents), it
seems to me that you've answered your own question.
Absent truly evil acts like genocide, we haven't the right to interfere with
other nations' internal affairs through military force *unless* those nations'
activities pose a threat to our own nation's security either militarily or
economically. As you well know the decision to use or not use military force in
either type of offending nation- truly evil regimes or those that pose a threat
to us- is now and has always been a matter of weighing the possible
consequences of such action or inaction. To pretend otherwise doesn't make one
morally superior. On the contrary, it casts doubt on one's sincerity, honesty,
or intelligence. I don't doubt your intelligence but your overly-simplistic
request for a 'formula' for those decisions certainly leads me to question your
sincerity. The world isn't black and white and you darn well know that.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

 




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