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Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters andsidewalks
Just Saturday morning I was almost attacked for doing the right thing
on the Causeway to Hell (the name is due to the many incidents I had there, this being the third one that day). The guy blew the horn as I was riding the bike nicely, and I gave him the finger. I shouldn't have, but he didn't have to harass me with the horn. He stopped, insulted me, wanted to fight me, and spit at me before taking off. It just happens that I'm supposed to walk the bike on the sidewalk across its bridges! No more biking on that road, or any other road shared with traffic. Predators like this will always be encouraged to mistreat cyclists due to the lack of respect given to us. No more than blacks that were forced to ride in the back of buses... NOTE: For the reasons given above, I do NOT recommend that you give the finger to anyone. Not because they don't deserve it, but because the lion is waiting for any excuse to eat the monkey. Instead, I do recommend you give them the finger in a nice civilized way. Something like "You can eat my banana" on the back of the T-shirt will still give them the finger, but with vaseline, so to speak. That was my best route out... I've found instead an alley that takes me into town. That's where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters and sidewalks. BIKE FOR PEACE (T-shirts and more) http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace |
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Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters and sidewalks
You're just an amazing dumbass.
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... Just Saturday morning I was almost attacked for doing the right thing on the Causeway to Hell (the name is due to the many incidents I had there, this being the third one that day). The guy blew the horn as I was riding the bike nicely, and I gave him the finger. I shouldn't have, but he didn't have to harass me with the horn. He stopped, insulted me, wanted to fight me, and spit at me before taking off. It just happens that I'm supposed to walk the bike on the sidewalk across its bridges! No more biking on that road, or any other road shared with traffic. Predators like this will always be encouraged to mistreat cyclists due to the lack of respect given to us. No more than blacks that were forced to ride in the back of buses... NOTE: For the reasons given above, I do NOT recommend that you give the finger to anyone. Not because they don't deserve it, but because the lion is waiting for any excuse to eat the monkey. Instead, I do recommend you give them the finger in a nice civilized way. Something like "You can eat my banana" on the back of the T-shirt will still give them the finger, but with vaseline, so to speak. That was my best route out... I've found instead an alley that takes me into town. That's where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters and sidewalks. BIKE FOR PEACE (T-shirts and more) http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace |
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Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters andsidewalks
On Apr 14, 4:58 pm, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
You're just an amazing dumbass. "ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... Just Saturday morning I was almost attacked for doing the right thing on the Causeway to Hell (the name is due to the many incidents I had there, this being the third one that day). The guy blew the horn as I was riding the bike nicely, and I gave him the finger. I shouldn't have, but he didn't have to harass me with the horn. He stopped, insulted me, wanted to fight me, and spit at me before taking off. It just happens that I'm supposed to walk the bike on the sidewalk across its bridges! No more biking on that road, or any other road shared with traffic. Predators like this will always be encouraged to mistreat cyclists due to the lack of respect given to us. No more than blacks that were forced to ride in the back of buses... NOTE: For the reasons given above, I do NOT recommend that you give the finger to anyone. Not because they don't deserve it, but because the lion is waiting for any excuse to eat the monkey. Instead, I do recommend you give them the finger in a nice civilized way. Something like "You can eat my banana" on the back of the T-shirt will still give them the finger, but with vaseline, so to speak. That was my best route out... I've found instead an alley that takes me into town. That's where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters and sidewalks. BIKE FOR PEACE (T-shirts and more) http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry to be such a pain in the ass. Just like Jesus was to Rome. He rode a donkey to challenge the mighty empire. And then he was crucified... And no more Jesus. I think I'll take a break. No more confrontation with the beast for a while. Too dangerous. Besides I don't believe in turning the other cheek. |
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only the strong (read SUVs and cars) survive
On Apr 14, 5:49 pm, h wrote:
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... Just Saturday morning I was almost attacked for doing the right thing on the Causeway to Hell (the name is due to the many incidents I had there, this being the third one that day). The guy blew the horn as I was riding the bike nicely, and I gave him the finger. I shouldn't have, but he didn't have to harass me with the horn. He stopped, insulted me, wanted to fight me, and spit at me before taking off. It just happens that I'm supposed to walk the bike on the sidewalk across its bridges! Ummm, if the rules say no riding on the bridge, then the lanes are probably too narrow for cars to pass you safely. Are you seriously saying that you're being treated like a second class citizen because you're expected to follow the rules? Do you really think that you should be allowed to ride in the road when cars cannot safely pass? If so, then you're begging to be hit, or you think you should be allowed to inconvenience all the people in cars who will be unable to pass you while on the bridge. I only ride on the bike path, since all the roads here are FAR too busy. What's wrong with you? Sorry, but you should have asked how many lanes there were and how much traffic there was before you sided with Goliath... There were two lanes each way, with only light traffic. Saturday morning, remember? It's bicycle day out there, kind of. But, YES, I'm stating cyclists in America are second class citizens. Worse, it's not only their dignity, but their own survival that is threaten. I was first TAKING THE LANE (sitting wherever I want in the bus) and the police waved me to move over. Other cyclists were either walking their bikes or riding them on the sidewalk, meaning they were OK in the eyes of the police. ("Do what you want, just don't bother cars.") Second I was blasted by another vehicle while still taking the lane. And then the third incident came when I moved to the right, but the guy thought I didn't have the right to be there either. Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the strong (read SUVs and cars) survive. |
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only the strong (read SUVs and cars) survive
"donquijote1954" wrote in message ... On Apr 14, 5:49 pm, h wrote: "ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the strong (read SUVs and cars) survive. It's an evolution game where the smart survive. Trying to win the Darwin prize is not smart. |
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only the strong (read SUVs and cars) survive
Jack May wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote in message ... On Apr 14, 5:49 pm, h wrote: "ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the strong (read SUVs and cars) survive. It's an evolution game where the smart survive. Trying to win the Darwin prize is not smart. When gas gets expensive enough, even Jack will be walking. His whole outlook will change. Right now, only "poor" people walk and get mown down by drivers, but wealth is relative. |
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On Apr 14, 7:09*pm, "Jack May" wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote in message ... On Apr 14, 5:49 pm, h wrote: "ComandanteBanana" wrote in message .... Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the strong (read SUVs and cars) survive. It's an evolution game where the smart survive. * Trying to win the Darwin prize is not smart. Since it's usually the case that the cylists are more fit than the drivers, this is a rare case of "survival of the fattest over the fittest." I guess common in SOCIAL DARWINISM though. |
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On Apr 14, 6:10*pm, donquijote1954
wrote: On Apr 14, 5:49 pm, h wrote: "ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... Just Saturday morning I was almost attacked for doing the right thing on the Causeway to Hell (the name is due to the many incidents I had there, this being the third one that day). The guy blew the horn as I was riding the bike nicely, and I gave him the finger. I shouldn't have, but he didn't have to harass me with the horn. He stopped, insulted me, wanted to fight me, and spit at me before taking off. It just happens that I'm supposed to walk the bike on the sidewalk across its bridges! Ummm, if the rules say no riding on the bridge, then the lanes are probably too narrow for cars to pass you safely. Are you seriously saying that you're being treated like a second class citizen because you're expected to follow the rules? Do you really think that you should be allowed to ride in the road when cars cannot safely pass? If so, then you're begging to be hit, or you think you should be allowed to inconvenience all the people in cars who will be unable to pass you while on the bridge. I only ride on the bike path, since all the roads here are FAR too busy. What's wrong with you? Sorry, but you should have asked how many lanes there were and how much traffic there was before you sided with Goliath... There were two lanes each way, with only light traffic. Saturday morning, remember? It's bicycle day out there, kind of. But, YES, I'm stating cyclists in America are second class citizens. Worse, it's not only their dignity, but their own survival that is threaten. I was first TAKING THE LANE (sitting wherever I want in the bus) and the police waved me to move over. Other cyclists were either walking their bikes or riding them on the sidewalk, meaning they were OK in the eyes of the police. ("Do what you want, just don't bother cars.") Second I was blasted by another vehicle while still taking the lane. And then the third incident came when I moved to the right, but the guy thought I didn't have the right to be there either. Something funny happens though. The more you move to the right, the more they squeeze you. It's a power game, I believe, where only the strong (read SUVs and cars) survive.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - As I've said before, if you get all of those problems, look within. Others were walking for a reason -- what you were doing was unsafe. If you can't keep up to road speed, get off the road or you'll get killed. If you can keep up with traffic, you wouldn't have the problems. It's not the bike that people dislike, it's the speed you're going. Get over the whole bike thing and look within. |
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only the strong (read SUVs and cars) survive
On Apr 14, 9:54 pm, Pat wrote:
If you can't keep up to road speed, get off the road or you'll get killed. If you can keep up with traffic, you wouldn't have the problems. It's not the bike that people dislike, it's the speed you're going. Get over the whole bike thing and look within. Pat (who?), Jack May, and "donquijote" all manage to be very wrong, although the first two come at it from a different direction than our "banana" boy. No, you won't get killed riding a bike, despite what Jack and Pat claim. No, the world doesn't have to be transformed to make bicycling safe, despite donquijote's paranoid whining. All three of you need to learn a lot about the real data. The fatality rate from bicycling is infinitesmal. There are roughly fifteen million miles ridden between bike fatalities. People who cycle regularly have been shown to live longer than typical motorists. Many researchers have found that the risk of cycling is less, per hour, than the risk of motoring, or less than the risk of walking near traffic. Pat, get over the self-centered motorist thing. The roads are NOT intended for only the uses you prefer. Slow down, share the road. The few seconds it takes you to get past a bicyclist will not change your life. You're not going to use that time to save the world. Jack, the Darwin award should go to the bulk of the population that sits on fat asses in oversized vehicles and prepares for early heart attack. It has nothing to do with people keeping themselves healthy by safe, healthy exercise. Your remark on evolution shows a dismal lack of science understanding. Quit posting from a position of ignorance. Donquijote/comandante banana, quit your obnoxious whining. If you're too much of a wimp to ride without whining, leave us alone and do something else. To all three: Sorry, I usually try not to be so harsh. But massive ignorance becomes grating after a while. - Frank Krygowski |
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On Apr 14, 8:54*pm, Pat wrote:
As I've said before, if you get all of those problems, look within. Others were walking for a reason -- what you were doing was unsafe. If you can't keep up to road speed, get off the road or you'll get killed. *If you can keep up with traffic, you wouldn't have the problems. It's not the bike that people dislike, it's the speed you're going. Get over the whole bike thing and look within.- I agree. My disapproving gesture of choice is "thumbs down", used sparingly, for example, when an oncoming car passes another oncoming car, and there's either no paved shoulder or only a very limited one. It's never wise to use it when you're in the wrong. I have some history of making sarcastic remarks to drivers who cut me off and can hear me, e.g. "do you think that might makes right?" It's not effective. One example: A garbage truck cut into the road right in front of me. 1/4 mile ahead he turned into a street so I followed him and as soon as he stopped, came up and yelled: "Do you think you own the road or what." He just glared at me and said: " Get the f**** out of my face." End of discussion "Please watch for bicycles. Have a good day" has a better chance. As a matter of general interest, how do you react when being reproved for being in the wrong? (which happens to me from time to time, as I have an imperfect record of waiting for stop lights and stopping at stop signs.) One time, on a recreation path that required leashing dogs, an unleashed dog was in the way, so I yelled at him (the dog). His mistress really went after me for upsetting her poor mutt. How much sympathy do you think she got from me? |
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