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mavic rims suck?
I had a mavic ma3 rim 36 spoke with good spokes on a campy hub on the rear.
now I am a heavy rider (right now about 238 with up to 15 or so pounds on my back. I use a 25mm tire with full 120 or close pressure. my last rim was getting out of true a lot and a new derailer slipped a bit and chewed up the spokes so I replaced the spokes and rim with the ma3. after about 700 or so miles of daily commuting the wheel needed little trueing so I did it. the next day it was off again. I was tightening the spokes when I saw one that looked like it had a hump around it. a closer look reveled that the rim was cracked around the spoke and it was pulling out. nothing like making a person mad seeing a new part failing. I was going to get a cp22 or 33 rim as I have heard they are pretty bullet proof here. one of my local shops that has a great owner that does not push things told me the mavic's with the hole sleeves tend do to that. I have read about the creaking these rims have and some problems. anyone else have this problem? he let me use a loaner while he orders a good 36 hole replacement rim. -- Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. |
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a closer look reveled that the rim was cracked around the spoke and it was pulling out. I'm about 220# and I've toasted three Mavic 517s. On each the spokes were starting to pull out around the ferrules and there were cracks around same. Not just some ferrules - all of them. My take is that the 517 just isn't designed for use by somebody my weight. I've since switched to a 617 (double ferrule) for my rear wheel. -- PeteCresswell |
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Steve- I had a mavic ma3 rim 36 spoke with good spokes on a campy hub on the
rear. BRBR I was tightening the spokes when I saw one that looked like it had a hump around it. a closer look reveled that the rim was cracked around the spoke and it was pulling out. BRBR Not uncommon with MA-3s and we have sent all ours back to Mavic, swapped with OpenPros. Velocity, either Fusion of Deep Vs are nice rims for you. Cheaper than CXP-33s as well. CXP-22s are 32 hole only. Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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mavic rims suck?
Are you saying the MA3 is not a good rim overall, or not suited for heavier
wieghts. I was going to call my LBS this am, and order a MA3/Suzue rear wheel. I weigh 165. Thanks |
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Steve Knight wrote in message . ..
I had a mavic ma3 rim 36 spoke with good spokes on a campy hub on the rear. now I am a heavy rider (right now about 238 with up to 15 or so pounds on my back. I use a 25mm tire with full 120 or close pressure. I vary between 200 - 225 and I use Mavic rimmed wheels exclusively. They are good. Your wheel's build is what was bad. Even tension would not result in a spoke pulling out unless the tension were overly high and you took a bad hit. You should apply your obvious patience and attention to detail (as evidenced by your planes) to learning how to build a good set of wheels. I build my own and ride 36 hole CXP 33's on campy 10 hubs and 32 hole OP's also on campy 10. Yes, there is a known issue with a the "Mavic Creak" attributed frequently to a loose insert used to align the ends of the hoop for welding. That can be fixed. My 33's rock. Go ahead - but get the book (Jobst Brandt's The Bicycle Wheel) or pay for your local expert to build them up. 14/15 DB spokes, three cross. App |
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mavic rims suck?
This has been discussed in literally thousands of posts in this
newsgroup. Most modern bicycle rims are junk being passed off as "hi-tech" improvements replete with buzzwords and acronyms, etc. Mavic is the worst offender of all, IMHO. Look for the Torelli Master in polished aluminum. |
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"Chris" writes:
Are you saying the MA3 is not a good rim overall, or not suited for heavier wieghts. I was going to call my LBS this am, and order a MA3/Suzue rear wheel. I weigh 165. Thanks The MA3- indeed the entire Mavic line IMHO- is crap. The last good Mavic rim was the MA2 in polished aluminum. There are vocal defenders of Mavic who will rise to this as they always do, but frankly if you're over about 140 lbs stay away from this company's products. If you can, stay away from anodized rims as they are prone to early failure by cracking around the spoke holes. |
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"Tim McNamara" wrote in message ... "Chris" writes: Are you saying the MA3 is not a good rim overall, or not suited for heavier wieghts. I was going to call my LBS this am, and order a MA3/Suzue rear wheel. I weigh 165. Thanks The MA3- indeed the entire Mavic line IMHO- is crap. The last good Mavic rim was the MA2 in polished aluminum. There are vocal defenders of Mavic who will rise to this as they always do, but frankly if you're over about 140 lbs stay away from this company's products. If you can, stay away from anodized rims as they are prone to early failure by cracking around the spoke holes. sarcasm on OH MY GOD THE SKY IS FALLING! That there are probably millions of Mavic's anodized rims in the world working well is besides the point, huh? I myself have 3 pair of anodized Mavic rims, are you saying you're going to pay to have them rebuilt with Velocity rims? Sarcasm off Seriously now, eventually everything will fail. If you over-tension your rims, ride them into potholes, weigh a bunch, etc. you're going to have a shorter rim lifespan than someone that weighs 135 and floats over things. I'm running between 170 and 185 depending on what part of the racing season I'm in. I have a pair of MA40 wheels, a pair of GL330 wheels, and a pair of Reflex wheels. All are in fine condition. I'm of the opinion that more depends on how you build the wheel than the rim itself. Yes, there are rims that aren't as good for their intended applications, but for the 165# guy wanting to ride MA3s, I'd say go for it. Personally, I like MA40s better, but hey, MA3s work too. Alternatives are Torelli Master rims, and several others that someone else is about to chime in with. That help? Mike |
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mavic rims suck?
"Tim McNamara" wrote in message ... This has been discussed in literally thousands of posts in this newsgroup. Most modern bicycle rims are junk being passed off as "hi-tech" improvements replete with buzzwords and acronyms, etc. Mavic is the worst offender of all, IMHO. Look for the Torelli Master in polished aluminum. 'scuse me, but exactly how many of these "crap" rims do you actually have personal experience with? ....or are you just spouting off stuff you've read on the internet? Mike |
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