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"UK minister backs call for more traffic police to protect cyclists"
"In an unexpected development at a meeting today of the Parliamentary
Transport Select Committee’s inquiry on road safety Britain’s Transport Minister Jim Fitzpatrick MP backed calls for more traffic police on the streets to protect cyclists and pedestrians. Up until now the official line has been non-commital on the need for extra traffic officers while at the same time stressing the deterrent value of traffic calming measures and speed cameras. ..." More at http://www.bikeradar.com/news/articl...cyclists-16610. It's not on Hansard yet. Personally I think this is great news. While undoubtedly there are a significant number of law-breaking cyclists, I think the large majority (at least in the places I cycle) are more sinned against than sinning. Getting the message out that drivers who offend against cyclists are more likely to be caught can only improve safety on the roads for everyone. Ideally I don't think it should be specific traffic officers for cyclists/peds. All traffic officers should have training on issues related to non-motorised road users. But it's a start. Rob |
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"UK minister backs call for more traffic police to protectcyclists"
On 30 Jun, 15:45, wrote:
Personally I think this is great news. *While undoubtedly there are a significant number of law-breaking cyclists, I think the large majority (at least in the places I cycle) are more sinned against than sinning. More nicking or deterring of both bad cyclists and bad drivers would help. Is it just me noticing it or has the number of drivers talking on their hand-held mobiles crept back up again? It seemed to stop for a while when it was made an offence but there seems to be loads again now. |
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"UK minister backs call for more traffic police to protect cyclists"
"POHB" wrote in message
... On 30 Jun, 15:45, wrote: Personally I think this is great news. While undoubtedly there are a significant number of law-breaking cyclists, I think the large majority (at least in the places I cycle) are more sinned against than sinning. Is it just me noticing it or has the number of drivers talking on their hand-held mobiles crept back up again? It seemed to stop for a while when it was made an offence but there seems to be loads again now. No, its not just you. I notice it very frequently in SW London - phone in one hand other hand on gear lever in a regular sight! ...... and it's not just drivers, twice in a 15 minute car journey this am in Wimbledon, I had to modify my driving to take account of cyclists meandering along oblivious to the traffic around them while they chatted on the phone. Last week I came across an all time classic: No hands, in the middle of the traffic lane - the wrong one! - talking on his mobile heading straight for me. I stopped (traffic coming the other way prevented me pulling out to pass him) , he steered no hands onto the pavement via a dropped pavement and carried on cycling and chatting along the pavement. And, no he did not even nod in acknowledgment as he passed by. pk |
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"UK minister backs call for more traffic police to protect cyclists"
Is it just me noticing it or has the number of drivers talking on
their hand-held mobiles crept back up again? It seemed to stop for a while when it was made an offence but there seems to be loads again now. It's not just you... Drivers have realised that unless a policemen actually happens to be right next to them with nothing else to do, when they get out their mobiles, nothing will happen. Then again, I regularly see cyclists on the road chatting happily into their hand-helds (or texting) too, which also needs to be looked into. pOB |
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"UK minister backs call for more traffic police to protect cyclists"
On 30/06/2008 16:34, POHB said,
Is it just me noticing it or has the number of drivers talking on their hand-held mobiles crept back up again? It seemed to stop for a while when it was made an offence but there seems to be loads again now. I'm not sure it ever stopped! -- Paul Boyd http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/ |
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"UK minister backs call for more traffic police to protect cyclists"
"POHB" wrote in message ... On 30 Jun, 15:45, wrote: Personally I think this is great news. While undoubtedly there are a significant number of law-breaking cyclists, I think the large majority (at least in the places I cycle) are more sinned against than sinning. More nicking or deterring of both bad cyclists and bad drivers would help. Is it just me noticing it or has the number of drivers talking on their hand-held mobiles crept back up again? It seemed to stop for a while when it was made an offence but there seems to be loads again now. While waitng our turn to disembark at dover this morning on the Bike Express, a 40ton truck passed with the driver texting and with an operating open laptop next to him. Ken. |
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"UK minister backs call for more traffic police to protect cyclists"
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:34:13 -0700, POHB wrote:
On 30 Jun, 15:45, wrote: Personally I think this is great news. Â*While undoubtedly there are a significant number of law-breaking cyclists, I think the large majority (at least in the places I cycle) are more sinned against than sinning. More nicking or deterring of both bad cyclists and bad drivers would help. Is it just me noticing it or has the number of drivers talking on their hand-held mobiles crept back up again? It seemed to stop for a while when it was made an offence but there seems to be loads again now. Don't know whether it's gone up but I find that most of them drive posh/sport type cars. Snotty gets. -- ___ _______ ___ ___ ___ __ ____ / _ \/ __/ _ | / _ \ / _ \/ _ |/ / / / / / // / _// __ |/ // / / ___/ __ / /_/ / /__ /____/___/_/ |_/____/ /_/ /_/ |_\____/____/ |
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"UK minister backs call for more traffic police to protect cyclists"
"Steve" Personally I think this is great news. It will only be good news if this is reflected in the police spending decisions. Given that this government has reduced traffic police number to less than 50% of what they were, you have to assume this is just another politician spouting bull****. Steve Please Lord, not yet another "strategy" announcement that has, in truth no substance, intent or life beyond the announcement itself. What an utterly corny way to conduct public life. We really would be fools to imagine this would give us better protection as cyclists or pedestrians. John |
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"UK minister backs call for more traffic police to protect cyclists"
Dead Paul wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:34:13 -0700, POHB wrote: On 30 Jun, 15:45, wrote: Personally I think this is great news. While undoubtedly there are a significant number of law-breaking cyclists, I think the large majority (at least in the places I cycle) are more sinned against than sinning. More nicking or deterring of both bad cyclists and bad drivers would help. Is it just me noticing it or has the number of drivers talking on their hand-held mobiles crept back up again? It seemed to stop for a while when it was made an offence but there seems to be loads again now. Don't know whether it's gone up but I find that most of them drive posh/sport type cars. Snotty gets. It might be worth distinguishing between posh (mercs, bmw, 4x4) and sports type cars. Despite a natural prejudice I have found sports car owners to be among the most courteous drivers on the road. I suspect this is because many of the sports car owners genuinely love cars and driving rather than just want everyone to know how important they are. |
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