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Bloodbath and a Cleansing
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...spread-reforms
And really, is Armstrong a vindictive person? ;-) |
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On Jun 16, 12:29*pm, "B. Lafferty" wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...spread-reforms And really, is Armstrong a vindictive person? *;-) IMO, LemonD is living in a dream world where he believes that such a "cleansing" would result in cycling becoming a "clean sport". Nothing could be further from the truth. Undetectable methods that result in significant performance advantages have existed in the past, exist today, and there is every indication they will exist in the future, and will likely become more effective. Athletes have shown time and again that when confronted with this reality, many will choose to use such methods, and will rationalize their use regardless of any moral or legal pressures exerted. It's also likely that such a "cleansing" will increase the flight of sponsors from pro cycling, and that those athletes that remain will likely still include a significant fraction that will continue to successfully use doping methods without detection. Brad Anders |
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Brad Anders wrote:
IMO, LemonD is living in a dream world where he believes that such a "cleansing" would result in cycling becoming a "clean sport". Dumbass, He's living in a dream world where he holds the record for the greatest number of TdF wins. |
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On Jun 16, 1:10*pm, "Fred on a stick"
wrote: Brad Anders wrote: IMO, LemonD is living in a dream world where he believes that such a "cleansing" would result in cycling becoming a "clean sport". Dumbass, He's living in a dream world where he holds the record for the greatest number of TdF wins. I raced as a kid back in the early '70's, at a time when even the idea that a US cyclist could be successful at all in Europe as a pro was considered to be ridiculous. Guys we had who were amazing US riders like John Howard, Allis, Hiltner, etc. all had only the most limited success. In the late '70's a new breed of riders like Lemond, Boyer, and Mount emerged, who began to make an impression on the scene, and in Lemond's case, rose to the top. Lemond comes from my era, and I wonder if that's part of what drives his mentality. I suspect that he thought that his 3 TdF wins would never be equaled by another US cyclist for another 25 years. When Armstrong came along and not only won the TdF, but blew away all the TdF records by winning 7 straight, that must have been a bitter pill to swallow. Add in that after winning 3 TdF's, the only thing Lemond seemed to get was a Taco Bell commercial, seeing Armstrong rise to such popularity outside of cycling made it even worse. It's clear that Lemond has always craved acceptance and praise from the public. Finally, for Lemond to believe that all of his accomplishments were eclipsed by a guy who he sincerely considers to be the biggest doper of all time, the current situation must be completely unacceptable. Given all of these factors, it's not to hard to understand the root of his obsession. Brad anders |
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Brad Anders wrote:
Given all of these factors, it's not to hard to understand the root of his obsession. Dumbass, You've explained why he's a bitter man. You haven't explained why he's a jerk. Speaking of guys who are delusional and think their actions are reasonable in the face of terrible injustice, do you recall Ted Streleski? |
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On Jun 16, 3:47*pm, "Fred on a stick"
wrote: Brad Anders wrote: Given all of these factors, it's not to hard to understand the root of his obsession. Dumbass, You've explained why he's a bitter man. You haven't explained why he's a jerk. Speaking of guys who are delusional and think their actions are reasonable in the face of terrible injustice, do you recall Ted Streleski? I think you mean Ted Kaczynski. Brad Anders |
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On Jun 16, 5:17*pm, Brad Anders wrote:
On Jun 16, 3:47*pm, "Fred on a stick" wrote: Brad Anders wrote: Given all of these factors, it's not to hard to understand the root of his obsession. Dumbass, You've explained why he's a bitter man. You haven't explained why he's a jerk. Speaking of guys who are delusional and think their actions are reasonable in the face of terrible injustice, do you recall Ted Streleski? I think you mean Ted Kaczynski. Oh, you did mean Ted Streleski, I forgot all about him! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Streleski I guess either Ted would apply.... Brad |
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Brad Anders wrote:
On Jun 16, 1:10 pm, "Fred on a stick" wrote: Brad Anders wrote: IMO, LemonD is living in a dream world where he believes that such a "cleansing" would result in cycling becoming a "clean sport". Dumbass, He's living in a dream world where he holds the record for the greatest number of TdF wins. I raced as a kid back in the early '70's, at a time when even the idea that a US cyclist could be successful at all in Europe as a pro was considered to be ridiculous. Guys we had who were amazing US riders like John Howard, Allis, Hiltner, etc. all had only the most limited success. In the late '70's a new breed of riders like Lemond, Boyer, and Mount emerged, who began to make an impression on the scene, and in Lemond's case, rose to the top. Lemond comes from my era, and I wonder if that's part of what drives his mentality. I suspect that he thought that his 3 TdF wins would never be equaled by another US cyclist for another 25 years. When Armstrong came along and not only won the TdF, but blew away all the TdF records by winning 7 straight, that must have been a bitter pill to swallow. Add in that after winning 3 TdF's, the only thing Lemond seemed to get was a Taco Bell commercial, seeing Armstrong rise to such popularity outside of cycling made it even worse. It's clear that Lemond has always craved acceptance and praise from the public. Finally, for Lemond to believe that all of his accomplishments were eclipsed by a guy who he sincerely considers to be the biggest doper of all time, the current situation must be completely unacceptable. Given all of these factors, it's not to hard to understand the root of his obsession. Brad anders I remember that Taco Bell commerical, I saw it only once, although I'm not sure how long it ran. Basically it was short with Greg riding his bike balancing a Taco Bell combo box on the top of his handlebars. |
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On Jun 16, 2:29*pm, "B. Lafferty" wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...spread-reforms And really, is Armstrong a vindictive person? *;-) Nothing, compared to Lemond. "He who fits the doper profile". Meaning, even a bigger scammer than he says Lance Armstrong is? --D-y |
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