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Biker Killed by Mountain Lion
Edward Dolan wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote in message ... Edward Dolan wrote: ... Of course, a discussion between friends is something else entirely and should be off-line. But I do not fall into that category with anyone on this newsgroup.... There's a surprise. I have always found it the easiest thing in the world to have lots of friends - if I want them. I never have. Frankly, I do not know what friends are for. Do you? http://raiboy.tripod.com/Donner/id14.html. -- Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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Biker Killed by Mountain Lion
Edward Dolan wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote in message ... Edward Dolan wrote: A brief reading of the article leads me to believe that it should be required reading for everyone who fancies himself a Western intellectual. I am including you in this category somewhat reluctantly. Therefore you should read it and maybe learn something about your own inclinations and prejudices. It won't hurt you to read the article and it might do you some good. Why go through life hating the commercial classes (the bourgeoisie) when you don't have to. I read the article by David Brooks and was not impressed. The same ideas justifying aggression and greed have been trotted out in seemingly endless right wing editorials. It doesn't do you any good to read an excellently thought out and written article because your mind is not up to it. You are stuck in Karl Marx 101. But what do you know of Western civilization and its discontents anyway. And what is all this nonsense about aggression and greed. Maybe you should have been a preacher instead of an engineer. Everything you say stinks of the pulpit. The article gives you the background you need to understand where your kind of thinking comes from. You need to understand why you are so anti-Western and why you are so anti-American and anti-Israel. Your pro-Muslim bias is just insanity of course and there is no accounting for it. I do see why the article would appeal to someone who watches Faux News (sic) or to someone who (possibly on a subconscious level) likes to see problems solved with violence. You not only have the mentality of the preacher, but you have got the culture of an ignoramus who does not even understand where your mentality comes from. The article explained it all to you. What really rankles me is that most likely you have never read any of the writers and artists the author discusses in his article. That is most likely why you are unimpressed. You simply don't know what the hell the author is talking about in the first place not having the proper references in your mental bank of memory. You need to get acquainted with your Western heritage, instead of sympathizing with the Muslims all the time. A good place to begin would be Western Civilization 101. There may be a college there in the Quad Cities where you could seek some enlightenment. You need not concern yourself with other civilizations (such as the execrable Muslim one) until you have mastered the history of your own civilization. In other words, most likely, never! Mr. Dolan, Thanks for the laughs. It is clear that your posts are about as serious as Fabrizio Mazzoleni's are. -- Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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Biker Killed by Mountain Lion
Edward Dolan wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote in message ... [...] Edward Dolan wrote: An excellent article Scott, very finely nuanced and well written. Another important thing to remember about the Islamic terrorists is that they are clearly not rational. They do not think like how we think. I regard them all as crazed. The degenerate product of a degenerate civilization and a scurrilous religion of medieval origins which hasn't changed one iota in a thousand years.... The other interpretation is to not put yourself on the morally wrong side of a political situation. Being in the morally wrong will force the response to terrorism to be a continuation of the morally wrong action or the appearance of appeasing the terrorists. That is wonderful gobbledygook even for you. As near as I can make out, you are saying that Islamic Terrorism is justified because we (America) are not following the Kerry policy of appeasement. Kind of like, if maybe we were just a bit nicer to those who are murdering us, maybe then they would take mercy on us and not continue to murder so many of us. Glad we got that cleared up! Mr. Dolan, You have to be as willfully ignorant, close-minded and self-righteous as your hero, G. W. Bush to interpret what I wrote the way you did. -- Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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Back on Topic
Edward Dolan wrote:
... I think we Americans have got to get a lot smarter about our housing. It should not be rocket science to be able to come up with affordable housing for even the poorest of folks. There are a lot of stupid people in the US. Consider this: of all the bicycles sold, less than 20% are of "bike store quality". Of that fraction, approximately 1% are recumbents. Case closed. -- Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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Biker Killed by Mountain Lion
Edward Dolan wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote in message ... Edward Dolan wrote: I have always found it the easiest thing in the world to have lots of friends - if I want them. I never have. Frankly, I do not know what friends are for. Do you? http://raiboy.tripod.com/Donner/id14.html. The Donner party episode is a very interesting one in the annals of Western man. These people were not savages. They were as civilized as you and I. And yet under extreme stress they did the unthinkable. The moral of their story should be to keep all of us very humble about what civilization can and cannot do for us. If it is good enough for the mountain lion... Back to where the thread started. -- Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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Biker Killed by Mountain Lion
Nope, it's not greed. The owners of capital are, in general, more liberal
than the public at large (at least that's the case historicaly). They support the welfare state because they're willing to exchange a significant portion of their wealth (up to 70%) in order to remain in power. That's the tradeoff that was made by FDR. No, not greed. Lust for power is more like it. -- --Scott "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Freewheeling wrote: ... There are analogs in the economy, public finance, etc. Options about which we're so unaware that they aren't even mentioned by anyone. For instance, the reason we have poor people in the first place is that capital is several orders of magnitude more productive than labor, so if you don't control any capital you aren't even a player in this economy. We could change that without indulging in *any* socialistic, welfare-state, needs-based subsidization. We don't because,... well... just guess. Greed. -- Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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Biker Killed by Mountain Lion
Edward Dolan wrote:
... Point of order! How are you making your signature disappear when I bring up your message to post to it. Is it a function of your newsreader or can I do it also with my Google posting? I do note the dash lines and the difference in color. Do they have something to do with it? Exactly how do you do it? It is a standard Usenet protocol to ignore everything after a line containing "-- " when quoting a previous post. As to how Google Groups handles this, I do not know, since I do not post from there. -- Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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Biker Killed by Mountain Lion
Freewheeling wrote:
Nope, it's not greed. The owners of capital are, in general, more liberal than the public at large (at least that's the case historicaly). They support the welfare state because they're willing to exchange a significant portion of their wealth (up to 70%) in order to remain in power. That's the tradeoff that was made by FDR. No, not greed. Lust for power is more like it. Tell that to Grover Norquist and company. The goal of the Cheney/Bush administration appears to be the elimination of all taxes on unearned income and the elimination of FDR's "New Deal" programs. In most of the world, the holders of capital are perfectly willing to let much of the population live in abject poverty. -- Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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Back on Topic
Edward Dolan wrote:
... Nope! Sorry, but the case is not closed. I have got several department store bikes and I have always been very happy with them. They were just fine and got me to where ever I wanted to go. I have also encountered several cross country cyclists who were on K-Mart bikes (Huffies). The trick to making these cheap bikes work is maintenance, which is a relatively simple thing to do with bikes. These cheap bikes have a very bad reputation because of the way the kids treat them. Here locally they ride them off the pier into the lake. They also like to hit curbs as hard as they can. If these type bikes are handled with tender loving care, they will last a lifetime and be perfectly adequate for all of your needs - except speed (because they are heavy). Now, the case is closed! Most of the MTB shaped objects sold by mass merchandisers will rapidly fall apart (wheels, hubs, shocks, frames) if ridden regularly off road. Significant maintenance is required under off-road conditions even with quality (but not stupid light) parts such as Shimano XT. The cheap bikes will not perform their apparent function. Even with on road use, there will be problems in short order. Hub and BB bearings will soon wear out (and no real maintenance is possible other than replacement). There are other problems such as inferior brakes (due to excessive flexure and steel rims), improperly stressed and trued wheels built with low quality rims and spokes, shifters that never work properly, and outdated parts such a 5-speed freewheels. Many of the parts used are not easily found through normal sources. A bicycle built with quality parts should be able to be ridden on the roads for thousands of miles with only minimal maintenance. This has been my experience even with low level bicycles from real bicycle shops (with the exception of the Shimano LP-37 BB's than RANS used to use on the Rocket, Tailwind and Wave). I strongly suspect that Mr. Dolan is advocating cheap bicycles just to disagree with me. -- Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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Biker Killed by Mountain Lion
Edward Dolan wrote:
... Look up the following words in any dictionary and see if you can glean any difference: 1. Warfare 2. Murder I support the former, you support the latter. I am on the side of us Americans, you are on the side of the Terrorists. Zippy got your number long ago and as usual he was right as rain! Attacking a country that is not at least posing an immanent threat of attack is immoral and a war crime and the victims of such an attack can be considered murder victims. "Zippy" is a coward who is afraid to put his/her name behind his/her opinions. -- Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side) |
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