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On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 10:35:51 PM UTC+1, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-10-16 09:44, Tom Kunich wrote: My Basso Loto was one of the final steel versions. It seemed to have a perfect ride. However, since I took it apart to refinish it I got the Lemond and between the ride of the Colnago CLX 3.0 and the ride of the Lemond Zurich made out of Reynolds 853 I will have to test it again. In any case it will be my spare rider. Presently I have the frame and fork in the powder coaters and expect them to get around to it around the end of next week. I was not enthused about the original colors of the Loto - Yellow and Blue with a red highlight. So I'm having it a solid "transparent blue" which they had a sample of when I was there. A hot rodder was having his rims coated. I had been planning on Candy Apple Blue but they had a hot rodder's transmission there finished in that color and the "Transparent Blue" looked a little cleaner. These guys have gone from finishing store shelves and the like to coating entire cars for hot rodders in the Trump economy. They had a pickup truck there they were about to put in the oven while I was there. It would cook to a metallic yellow. After I pick the frame and fork up I will have to get a set of Basso Loto decals, then coat the entire frame with clear. I learned from the last try on the Pinarello and will use many very light coats instead of a few heavy. And then have the bottom bracket threads cleaned and the Campy headset that was in it re-installed. I just finished building a tubeless wheel up. The deep carbon wheels are remarkably difficult to build. Off and on it took me three days to get that thing properly centered and true when I could build an aluminum wheel in a couple of hours easy. Wow, you are really going all out when it comes to your rides. I am the exact opposite. Both my MTB and my road bike have lots of scrapes and are generally caked in copious amounts of dried mud. Add in a few grease streaks and some vegetation mashed deep into the works here and there. My wife thinks the bikes look disgusting but then again this greatly reduces the chance of them being stolen. The money for the decals would in my case be invested in IPA, Imperial Stout or something similar. So you are a really tough guy then. It makes you proud? OK...oh wait are you not the one who cleans his chain with inter dental brushes? That is really girlisch... Lou Lou |
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On 2019-11-05 03:24, Duane wrote:
Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 16:53, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 19:49:09 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 16:03, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 18:49:13 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 15:44, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 16:35:51 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-10-16 09:44, Tom Kunich wrote: My Basso Loto was one of the final steel versions. It seemed to have a perfect ride. However, since I took it apart to refinish it I got the Lemond and between the ride of the Colnago CLX 3.0 and the ride of the Lemond Zurich made out of Reynolds 853 I will have to test it again. In any case it will be my spare rider. Presently I have the frame and fork in the powder coaters and expect them to get around to it around the end of next week. I was not enthused about the original colors of the Loto - Yellow and Blue with a red highlight. So I'm having it a solid "transparent blue" which they had a sample of when I was there. A hot rodder was having his rims coated. I had been planning on Candy Apple Blue but they had a hot rodder's transmission there finished in that color and the "Transparent Blue" looked a little cleaner. These guys have gone from finishing store shelves and the like to coating entire cars for hot rodders in the Trump economy. They had a pickup truck there they were about to put in the oven while I was there. It would cook to a metallic yellow. After I pick the frame and fork up I will have to get a set of Basso Loto decals, then coat the entire frame with clear. I learned from the last try on the Pinarello and will use many very light coats instead of a few heavy. And then have the bottom bracket threads cleaned and the Campy headset that was in it re-installed. I just finished building a tubeless wheel up. The deep carbon wheels are remarkably difficult to build. Off and on it took me three days to get that thing properly centered and true when I could build an aluminum wheel in a couple of hours easy. Wow, you are really going all out when it comes to your rides. I am the exact opposite. Both my MTB and my road bike have lots of scrapes and are generally caked in copious amounts of dried mud. Add in a few grease streaks and some vegetation mashed deep into the works here and there. My wife thinks the bikes look disgusting but then again this greatly reduces the chance of them being stolen. The money for the decals would in my case be invested in IPA, Imperial Stout or something similar. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ But vastly improves the chances of something breaking. Mud does not increase the chance of breakage. Beer doesn't either, provided one enjoys it within reason. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Dried mud greatly increases wear rates of components and that leads to premature failure aka breakage. Hmm, how does mud do that? Some sort of chemical reaction? Every time I cleaned it off somewhere to work on a certain area (didn't want crud to fall into the BB threads et cetera) the paint underneath it looked pristine. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Mud is a grinding compound since it's composed of ultrafine grits. Sheesh! Well, how exactly is _caked_ on mud going to grind? I guess that depends on what it’s caked on to. Of course I remove it from moving parts such as fork stanchions or gears. You do seem to complain more than most about how bike equipment doesn’t hold up. Maybe there’s a link. Your bikes, your choice though. Nothing with caked mud on it ever broke. On the contrary, it's the clean parts that break and the reason is pretty much always faulty engineering or undersizing. Static mud does not somehow miraculously "grind" like in Sir's phantasies. Caked in is caked in, it doesn't even move when hitting it with a hand. You can only get it off with serious water spraying or a pressure washer. Now that would over the long term do damage to a bicycle because you can't 100% control where the water jet will hit and where water gets in (and stays there). -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 9:04:39 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-11-04 16:53, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 19:49:09 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 16:03, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 18:49:13 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 15:44, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 16:35:51 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-10-16 09:44, Tom Kunich wrote: My Basso Loto was one of the final steel versions. It seemed to have a perfect ride. However, since I took it apart to refinish it I got the Lemond and between the ride of the Colnago CLX 3.0 and the ride of the Lemond Zurich made out of Reynolds 853 I will have to test it again. In any case it will be my spare rider. Presently I have the frame and fork in the powder coaters and expect them to get around to it around the end of next week. I was not enthused about the original colors of the Loto - Yellow and Blue with a red highlight. So I'm having it a solid "transparent blue" which they had a sample of when I was there. A hot rodder was having his rims coated. I had been planning on Candy Apple Blue but they had a hot rodder's transmission there finished in that color and the "Transparent Blue" looked a little cleaner. These guys have gone from finishing store shelves and the like to coating entire cars for hot rodders in the Trump economy. They had a pickup truck there they were about to put in the oven while I was there. It would cook to a metallic yellow. After I pick the frame and fork up I will have to get a set of Basso Loto decals, then coat the entire frame with clear. I learned from the last try on the Pinarello and will use many very light coats instead of a few heavy. And then have the bottom bracket threads cleaned and the Campy headset that was in it re-installed. I just finished building a tubeless wheel up. The deep carbon wheels are remarkably difficult to build. Off and on it took me three days to get that thing properly centered and true when I could build an aluminum wheel in a couple of hours easy. Wow, you are really going all out when it comes to your rides. I am the exact opposite. Both my MTB and my road bike have lots of scrapes and are generally caked in copious amounts of dried mud. Add in a few grease streaks and some vegetation mashed deep into the works here and there. My wife thinks the bikes look disgusting but then again this greatly reduces the chance of them being stolen. The money for the decals would in my case be invested in IPA, Imperial Stout or something similar. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ But vastly improves the chances of something breaking. Mud does not increase the chance of breakage. Beer doesn't either, provided one enjoys it within reason. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Dried mud greatly increases wear rates of components and that leads to premature failure aka breakage. Hmm, how does mud do that? Some sort of chemical reaction? Every time I cleaned it off somewhere to work on a certain area (didn't want crud to fall into the BB threads et cetera) the paint underneath it looked pristine. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Mud is a grinding compound since it's composed of ultrafine grits. Sheesh! Well, how exactly is _caked_ on mud going to grind? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Don't you realize that the Earth circles the Sun thereby rubbing the non-existent grit against the bicycle components and frame? Most of the mud around here is composted of material softer than the paint. |
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On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 11:02:52 PM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 November 2019 00:04:39 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 16:53, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 19:49:09 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 16:03, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 18:49:13 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 15:44, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 16:35:51 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-10-16 09:44, Tom Kunich wrote: My Basso Loto was one of the final steel versions. It seemed to have a perfect ride. However, since I took it apart to refinish it I got the Lemond and between the ride of the Colnago CLX 3.0 and the ride of the Lemond Zurich made out of Reynolds 853 I will have to test it again. In any case it will be my spare rider. Presently I have the frame and fork in the powder coaters and expect them to get around to it around the end of next week. I was not enthused about the original colors of the Loto - Yellow and Blue with a red highlight. So I'm having it a solid "transparent blue" which they had a sample of when I was there. A hot rodder was having his rims coated. I had been planning on Candy Apple Blue but they had a hot rodder's transmission there finished in that color and the "Transparent Blue" looked a little cleaner. These guys have gone from finishing store shelves and the like to coating entire cars for hot rodders in the Trump economy. They had a pickup truck there they were about to put in the oven while I was there. It would cook to a metallic yellow. After I pick the frame and fork up I will have to get a set of Basso Loto decals, then coat the entire frame with clear. I learned from the last try on the Pinarello and will use many very light coats instead of a few heavy. And then have the bottom bracket threads cleaned and the Campy headset that was in it re-installed. I just finished building a tubeless wheel up. The deep carbon wheels are remarkably difficult to build. Off and on it took me three days to get that thing properly centered and true when I could build an aluminum wheel in a couple of hours easy. Wow, you are really going all out when it comes to your rides. I am the exact opposite. Both my MTB and my road bike have lots of scrapes and are generally caked in copious amounts of dried mud. Add in a few grease streaks and some vegetation mashed deep into the works here and there. My wife thinks the bikes look disgusting but then again this greatly reduces the chance of them being stolen. The money for the decals would in my case be invested in IPA, Imperial Stout or something similar. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ But vastly improves the chances of something breaking. Mud does not increase the chance of breakage. Beer doesn't either, provided one enjoys it within reason. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Dried mud greatly increases wear rates of components and that leads to premature failure aka breakage. Hmm, how does mud do that? Some sort of chemical reaction? Every time I cleaned it off somewhere to work on a certain area (didn't want crud to fall into the BB threads et cetera) the paint underneath it looked pristine. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Mud is a grinding compound since it's composed of ultrafine grits. Sheesh! Well, how exactly is _caked_ on mud going to grind? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Joerg are you for real? Caked on mud will have bits loosen with vibration when the bicycle is in use and those bits can migrate to the moving parts where those bits then cause grinding. It's no wonder you have so much trouble with your stuff breaking. Cheers Are you for real? You call yourself "Ridesalot" and Joerg puts in five times the miles you do and mostly over dirt terrain. That is NORMAL WEAR. I too have to replace bearings and other wear components including handlebars and shifters. |
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On 05/11/2019 9:50 a.m., Joerg wrote:
On 2019-11-05 03:24, Duane wrote: Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 16:53, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 19:49:09 UTC-5, JoergÂ* wrote: On 2019-11-04 16:03, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 18:49:13 UTC-5, JoergÂ* wrote: On 2019-11-04 15:44, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 16:35:51 UTC-5, JoergÂ* wrote: On 2019-10-16 09:44, Tom Kunich wrote: My Basso Loto was one of the final steel versions. It seemed to have a perfect ride. However, since I took it apart to refinish it I got the Lemond and between the ride of the Colnago CLX 3.0 and the ride of the Lemond Zurich made out of Reynolds 853 I will have to test it again. In any case it will be my spare rider. Presently I have the frame and fork in the powder coaters and expect them to get around to it around the end of next week. I was not enthused about the original colors of the Loto - Yellow and Blue with a red highlight. So I'm having it a solid "transparent blue" which they had a sample of when I was there. A hot rodder was having his rims coated. I had been planning on Candy Apple Blue but they had a hot rodder's transmission there finished in that color and the "Transparent Blue" looked a little cleaner. These guys have gone from finishing store shelves and the like to coating entire cars for hot rodders in the Trump economy. They had a pickup truck there they were about to put in the oven while I was there. It would cook to a metallic yellow. After I pick the frame and fork up I will have to get a set of Basso Loto decals, then coat the entire frame with clear. I learned from the last try on the Pinarello and will use many very light coats instead of a few heavy. And then have the bottom bracket threads cleaned and the Campy headset that was in it re-installed. I just finished building a tubeless wheel up. The deep carbon wheels are remarkably difficult to build. Off and on it took me three days to get that thing properly centered and true when I could build an aluminum wheel in a couple of hours easy. Wow, you are really going all out when it comes to your rides. I am the exact opposite. Both my MTB and my road bike have lots of scrapes and are generally caked in copious amounts of dried mud. Add in a few grease streaks and some vegetation mashed deep into the works here and there. My wife thinks the bikes look disgusting but then again this greatly reduces the chance of them being stolen. The money for the decals would in my case be invested in IPA, Imperial Stout or something similar. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ But vastly improves the chances of something breaking. Mud does not increase the chance of breakage. Beer doesn't either, provided one enjoys it within reason. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Dried mud greatly increases wear rates of components and that leads to premature failure aka breakage. Hmm, how does mud do that? Some sort of chemical reaction? Every time I cleaned it off somewhere to work on a certain area (didn't want crud to fall into the BB threads et cetera) the paint underneath it looked pristine. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Mud is a grinding compound since it's composed of ultrafine grits. Sheesh! Well, how exactly is _caked_ on mud going to grind? I guess that depends on what it’s caked on to. Of course I remove it from moving parts such as fork stanchions or gears. You do seem to complain more than most about how bike equipment doesn’t hold up.Â* Maybe there’s a link. Your bikes, your choice though. Nothing with caked mud on it ever broke. On the contrary, it's the clean parts that break and the reason is pretty much always faulty engineering or undersizing. Static mud does not somehow miraculously "grind" like in Sir's phantasies. Caked in is caked in, it doesn't even move when hitting it with a hand. You can only get it off with serious water spraying or a pressure washer. Now that would over the long term do damage to a bicycle because you can't 100% control where the water jet will hit and where water gets in (and stays there). No point arguing. Like I said your bikes, your choice. |
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On 2019-11-05 06:55, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 9:04:39 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 16:53, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 19:49:09 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 16:03, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 18:49:13 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-04 15:44, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 4 November 2019 16:35:51 UTC-5, Joerg wrote: On 2019-10-16 09:44, Tom Kunich wrote: My Basso Loto was one of the final steel versions. It seemed to have a perfect ride. However, since I took it apart to refinish it I got the Lemond and between the ride of the Colnago CLX 3.0 and the ride of the Lemond Zurich made out of Reynolds 853 I will have to test it again. In any case it will be my spare rider. Presently I have the frame and fork in the powder coaters and expect them to get around to it around the end of next week. I was not enthused about the original colors of the Loto - Yellow and Blue with a red highlight. So I'm having it a solid "transparent blue" which they had a sample of when I was there. A hot rodder was having his rims coated. I had been planning on Candy Apple Blue but they had a hot rodder's transmission there finished in that color and the "Transparent Blue" looked a little cleaner. These guys have gone from finishing store shelves and the like to coating entire cars for hot rodders in the Trump economy. They had a pickup truck there they were about to put in the oven while I was there. It would cook to a metallic yellow. After I pick the frame and fork up I will have to get a set of Basso Loto decals, then coat the entire frame with clear. I learned from the last try on the Pinarello and will use many very light coats instead of a few heavy. And then have the bottom bracket threads cleaned and the Campy headset that was in it re-installed. I just finished building a tubeless wheel up. The deep carbon wheels are remarkably difficult to build. Off and on it took me three days to get that thing properly centered and true when I could build an aluminum wheel in a couple of hours easy. Wow, you are really going all out when it comes to your rides. I am the exact opposite. Both my MTB and my road bike have lots of scrapes and are generally caked in copious amounts of dried mud. Add in a few grease streaks and some vegetation mashed deep into the works here and there. My wife thinks the bikes look disgusting but then again this greatly reduces the chance of them being stolen. The money for the decals would in my case be invested in IPA, Imperial Stout or something similar. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ But vastly improves the chances of something breaking. Mud does not increase the chance of breakage. Beer doesn't either, provided one enjoys it within reason. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Dried mud greatly increases wear rates of components and that leads to premature failure aka breakage. Hmm, how does mud do that? Some sort of chemical reaction? Every time I cleaned it off somewhere to work on a certain area (didn't want crud to fall into the BB threads et cetera) the paint underneath it looked pristine. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Mud is a grinding compound since it's composed of ultrafine grits. Sheesh! Well, how exactly is _caked_ on mud going to grind? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Don't you realize that the Earth circles the Sun thereby rubbing the non-existent grit against the bicycle components and frame? Ah, that's why :-) ... Most of the mud around here is composted of material softer than the paint. Ours seems to be like dried-up glue. Maybe because there is the occasional horse excrement and some fibers baked into it. Even with a garden hose it needs to be spritzed for a while until it comes off. Which can cause water to seep into places where you really don't want it. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 6:55:56 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-11-05 04:21, wrote: On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 10:35:51 PM UTC+1, Joerg wrote: On 2019-10-16 09:44, Tom Kunich wrote: My Basso Loto was one of the final steel versions. It seemed to have a perfect ride. However, since I took it apart to refinish it I got the Lemond and between the ride of the Colnago CLX 3.0 and the ride of the Lemond Zurich made out of Reynolds 853 I will have to test it again. In any case it will be my spare rider. Presently I have the frame and fork in the powder coaters and expect them to get around to it around the end of next week. I was not enthused about the original colors of the Loto - Yellow and Blue with a red highlight. So I'm having it a solid "transparent blue" which they had a sample of when I was there. A hot rodder was having his rims coated. I had been planning on Candy Apple Blue but they had a hot rodder's transmission there finished in that color and the "Transparent Blue" looked a little cleaner. These guys have gone from finishing store shelves and the like to coating entire cars for hot rodders in the Trump economy. They had a pickup truck there they were about to put in the oven while I was there. It would cook to a metallic yellow. After I pick the frame and fork up I will have to get a set of Basso Loto decals, then coat the entire frame with clear. I learned from the last try on the Pinarello and will use many very light coats instead of a few heavy. And then have the bottom bracket threads cleaned and the Campy headset that was in it re-installed. I just finished building a tubeless wheel up. The deep carbon wheels are remarkably difficult to build. Off and on it took me three days to get that thing properly centered and true when I could build an aluminum wheel in a couple of hours easy. Wow, you are really going all out when it comes to your rides. I am the exact opposite. Both my MTB and my road bike have lots of scrapes and are generally caked in copious amounts of dried mud. Add in a few grease streaks and some vegetation mashed deep into the works here and there. My wife thinks the bikes look disgusting but then again this greatly reduces the chance of them being stolen. The money for the decals would in my case be invested in IPA, Imperial Stout or something similar. So you are a really tough guy then. It makes you proud? OK...oh wait are you not the one who cleans his chain with inter dental brushes? That is really girlisch... No, that's smart. It milks a lot more miles out of a chain than other mountain bikers on similar trails get. Out of curiosity, how do you know that? Do you stop other cyclists on the trail and say "hey, how many miles do you get out of your chains, and do you use dental brushes to clean them link-by-link"? I thoroughly clean and maintain moving or mission-critical stuff, very regularly. Chain, sprockets, brake components, bearings, lights et cetera. Whether the downtube has mud caked on it or not is only a cosmetic difference. Oh yeah, and it may cost me 0.1% in my average speed. One major upside of a muddy-looking bike is that potential thieves generally don't want that one. They go for another bike. Again, how do you know that? Do you do A/B theft tests -- muddy versus non-muddy bikes? Maybe put a muddy, unlocked S-Works Tarmac Di2 bike next to a super-clean Huffy POS and see which gets stolen first? -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 2019-11-05 08:35, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 6:55:56 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2019-11-05 04:21, wrote: On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 10:35:51 PM UTC+1, Joerg wrote: On 2019-10-16 09:44, Tom Kunich wrote: My Basso Loto was one of the final steel versions. It seemed to have a perfect ride. However, since I took it apart to refinish it I got the Lemond and between the ride of the Colnago CLX 3.0 and the ride of the Lemond Zurich made out of Reynolds 853 I will have to test it again. In any case it will be my spare rider. Presently I have the frame and fork in the powder coaters and expect them to get around to it around the end of next week. I was not enthused about the original colors of the Loto - Yellow and Blue with a red highlight. So I'm having it a solid "transparent blue" which they had a sample of when I was there. A hot rodder was having his rims coated. I had been planning on Candy Apple Blue but they had a hot rodder's transmission there finished in that color and the "Transparent Blue" looked a little cleaner. These guys have gone from finishing store shelves and the like to coating entire cars for hot rodders in the Trump economy. They had a pickup truck there they were about to put in the oven while I was there. It would cook to a metallic yellow. After I pick the frame and fork up I will have to get a set of Basso Loto decals, then coat the entire frame with clear. I learned from the last try on the Pinarello and will use many very light coats instead of a few heavy. And then have the bottom bracket threads cleaned and the Campy headset that was in it re-installed. I just finished building a tubeless wheel up. The deep carbon wheels are remarkably difficult to build. Off and on it took me three days to get that thing properly centered and true when I could build an aluminum wheel in a couple of hours easy. Wow, you are really going all out when it comes to your rides. I am the exact opposite. Both my MTB and my road bike have lots of scrapes and are generally caked in copious amounts of dried mud. Add in a few grease streaks and some vegetation mashed deep into the works here and there. My wife thinks the bikes look disgusting but then again this greatly reduces the chance of them being stolen. The money for the decals would in my case be invested in IPA, Imperial Stout or something similar. So you are a really tough guy then. It makes you proud? OK...oh wait are you not the one who cleans his chain with inter dental brushes? That is really girlisch... No, that's smart. It milks a lot more miles out of a chain than other mountain bikers on similar trails get. Out of curiosity, how do you know that? Do you stop other cyclists on the trail and say "hey, how many miles do you get out of your chains, and do you use dental brushes to clean them link-by-link"? I regularly talk with other MTB riders at brewpubs. Most said they don't even get 1000mi out of a chain. I thoroughly clean and maintain moving or mission-critical stuff, very regularly. Chain, sprockets, brake components, bearings, lights et cetera. Whether the downtube has mud caked on it or not is only a cosmetic difference. Oh yeah, and it may cost me 0.1% in my average speed. One major upside of a muddy-looking bike is that potential thieves generally don't want that one. They go for another bike. Again, how do you know that? Do you do A/B theft tests -- muddy versus non-muddy bikes? Maybe put a muddy, unlocked S-Works Tarmac Di2 bike next to a super-clean Huffy POS and see which gets stolen first? Of course I mean similar bikes. Di2 is an invitation "Steal me, steal me!". Most thieves around here are after a quick buck to feed their drug habits. A nice shiny name brand bike will instantly get them their $30 or whatever at the cladestine chop shop, a filthy one won't. It's rather obvious and I had talked at length with law enforcement experts about such things. They said the same thing about homes. A modest abode has a lower chance of being broken into versus a manicured mansion. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Basso Loto
On 11/5/2019 9:55 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-11-05 04:21, wrote: On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 10:35:51 PM UTC+1, Joerg wrote: On 2019-10-16 09:44, Tom Kunich wrote: My Basso Loto was one of the final steel versions. It seemed to have a perfect ride. However, since I took it apart to refinish it I got the Lemond and between the ride of the Colnago CLX 3.0 and the ride of the Lemond Zurich made out of Reynolds 853 I will have to test it again. In any case it will be my spare rider. Presently I have the frame and fork in the powder coaters and expect them to get around to it around the end of next week. I was not enthused about the original colors of the Loto - Yellow and Blue with a red highlight. So I'm having it a solid "transparent blue" which they had a sample of when I was there. A hot rodder was having his rims coated. I had been planning on Candy Apple Blue but they had a hot rodder's transmission there finished in that color and the "Transparent Blue" looked a little cleaner. These guys have gone from finishing store shelves and the like to coating entire cars for hot rodders in the Trump economy. They had a pickup truck there they were about to put in the oven while I was there. It would cook to a metallic yellow. After I pick the frame and fork up I will have to get a set of Basso Loto decals, then coat the entire frame with clear. I learned from the last try on the Pinarello and will use many very light coats instead of a few heavy. And then have the bottom bracket threads cleaned and the Campy headset that was in it re-installed. I just finished building a tubeless wheel up. The deep carbon wheels are remarkably difficult to build. Off and on it took me three days to get that thing properly centered and true when I could build an aluminum wheel in a couple of hours easy. Wow, you are really going all out when it comes to your rides. I am the exact opposite. Both my MTB and my road bike have lots of scrapes and are generally caked in copious amounts of dried mud. Add in a few grease streaks and some vegetation mashed deep into the works here and there. My wife thinks the bikes look disgusting but then again this greatly reduces the chance of them being stolen. The money for the decals would in my case be invested in IPA, Imperial Stout or something similar. So you are a really tough guy then. It makes you proud? OK...oh wait are you not the one who cleans his chain with inter dental brushes? That is really girlisch... No, that's smart. It milks a lot more miles out of a chain than other mountain bikers on similar trails get. .... effectively earning many cents per hour of cleaning time, I'll bet! I thoroughly clean and maintain moving or mission-critical stuff, very regularly. Chain, sprockets, brake components, bearings, lights et cetera. Whether the downtube has mud caked on it or not is only a cosmetic difference. I'm trying to imagine a guy diligently cleaning and lubricating the chain, sprockets, brakes, bearings, lights etc. while carefully preserving the gobs of mud on his downtube. The only way that works is if I switch my imagination to cartoon mode. One major upside of a muddy-looking bike is that potential thieves generally don't want that one. They go for another bike. Sheesh. I'd just get a better lock. Or park my bike where I can keep an eye on it. But I know that we don't understand how terrible things are in your area. Why, the mountain lions probably carry lock picks! -- - Frank Krygowski |
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