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Why Is Chapman *So* Despised?
It was commented the other day that I don't give the likes of David
Damerell anywhere near as much of a hard time as Chapman, despite such people being as anti-motorist as Chapman. I thought the question of why Chapman attracts people's hatred so much more than those whose views he shares deserved its own thread. Simon Mason and many others are in favour of speed cameras. Yet, while I think that they're dead wrong and possibly that they've been brainwashed, I and others manage to conduct polite and interesting discussions with them. David Damerell, Doug, Glug and others are as anti-motorist as Chapman. Yet, while I may make fun of them at times and comment on their idiocy and ****wittedness (at least in Glug's case), I and others never attack and despise them in the same way as we do Chapman. Spindrift and others are, like Chapman, motorist-haters who "cleverly" deny that they're anti-motorist as part of their "masterplan". Spindrift has said and done some undeniably vile things. Yet none of them attract anywhere near as much derision and hatred as Chapman. Like Chapman, others lie, deceive, twist the facts and try to evade their opponents' points in order to attempt to railroad through arguments which they know to be incorrect in order to support some hidden agenda. Others are thoroughly obnoxious, arrogant and infuriating people who do their best to keep things on the boil. Others label as "trolls" anyone who disagrees with their stated position. Others pretend to own discussion groups when they don't, attempt to censor their opponents through various means, and tell people off for replying to the "wrong" posters. Others abuse their administrator status on Wikipedia and other sites. Others are renowned trolls who are banned from every forum that they've ever set foot in. Others accuse people of making abusive phone calls which never even happened. A small number of others even advocate measures which they know to be killing people. Yet, the Internet over, Chapman comes out again and again as *the* person who is, hands down, the most detested wherever he goes. Why is this? Clearly (at least to everyone except him and his pathetic, salivating sycophants), it is as a result of his behaviour, rather than that of those who dislike him so much. So what is it about Chapman's behaviour which ****es off *so* many Internet users in so many different places, if none of the above deficiencies are unique to him? Is it because he's the only one who *all* those deficiencies apply to? Is there something particularly offensive about his general manner? What is it that makes so many people despise him so very much? Why do we have so many forum and newsgroup threads and posts, web pages, complaints, emails, etc all on the topic of how much people hate this one individual and how they intend to make his life difficult as a result? If only he would start addressing some of these points, and making genuine efforts to improve his behaviour instead of pretending that it "must be everyone else's fault", he would find that he was no longer as widely hated. But of course he won't; not only is he far too arrogant to admit, even to himself, that his conduct is anything but perfect, but he actually seems to enjoy his infamy. I guess he knows it's the only way that he'll ever get the attention that he thinks he deserves. So...why is Chapman so despised? |
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Why Is Chapman *So* Despised?
"Nuxx Bar" wrote in message ... It was commented the other day [big snip] He ain't. Get a life mate! I couldn't be bothered reading past the first paragraph. -- Motorist Hater Mileburner :-) |
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Why Is Chapman *So* Despised?
Nuxx Bar wrote:
So...why is Chapman so despised? He's not, except by ******* like you. |
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:31:33 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar
wrote: snip So...why is Chapman so despised? I think it is because he is: arrogant a bully despicable ( a truism? :-) a liar will lie and never admit to doing so when caught a nym shifter deceitful pretends to be a Christian he loves Guy Chapman will never enter a serious debate with anyone will never apologise when proven to be wrong has a serious personality defect (perhaps more than one) and many, many more reasons too numerous to mention. I think that infandous says it all -- I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman) I have never said that I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman) I would challenge judith to find the place where I said I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman) I pointed out the web page He then quickly changed the web page - but "forgot" to change the date of last amendment so it looked like the change had been there for years. |
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Why Is Chapman *So* Despised?
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:41:27 +0100, mileburner wrote:
"Nuxx Bar" wrote in message ... It was commented the other day [big snip] He ain't. Get a life mate! I couldn't be bothered reading past the first paragraph. -- Motorist Hater Mileburner :-) I didn't even get past the first three words of the subject! Peter -- The Kiwi is very aptly New Zealand's national emblem. It is a bird which cannot fly. It only comes out at night. It has nostrils at the end of its beak, and it is always poking its nose into things. |
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:02:04 +0100, "Brimstone"
wrote: Nuxx Bar wrote: So...why is Chapman so despised? He's not, except by ******* like you. I think you will find that he is. Even Snipper Smith has him in his kill-file. -- I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman) I have never said that I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman) I would challenge judith to find the place where I said I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman) I pointed out the web page He then quickly changed the web page - but "forgot" to change the date of last amendment so it looked like the change had been there for years. |
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On 23 Apr, 00:30, Judith Smith wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:02:04 +0100, "Brimstone" wrote: Nuxx Bar wrote: So...why is Chapman so despised? He's not, except by ******* like you. I think you will find that he is. I think that you will find that you (Mr. Smith) are despised and that Guy is not. I have seen exactly nothing of merit in your (Mr. Smith's) messages and a great deal of merit in Mr. Chapman's posts. You are a despicable tosser. Please go away and try to impose your will elsewhere. For sure it will never be imposed on anyone here. |
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Peter Keller wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:41:27 +0100, mileburner wrote: "Nuxx Bar" wrote in message ... It was commented the other day [big snip] He ain't. Get a life mate! I couldn't be bothered reading past the first paragraph. -- Motorist Hater Mileburner :-) I didn't even get past the first three words of the subject! Peter I didn't even see it. My killfile seems to be working. |
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Why Is Chapman *So* Despised?
On 22 Apr, 19:31, Nuxx Bar wrote:
It was commented the other day that I don't give the likes of David Damerell anywhere near as much of a hard time as Chapman, despite such people being as anti-motorist as Chapman. *I thought the question of why Chapman attracts people's hatred so much more than those whose views he shares deserved its own thread. Simon Mason and many others are in favour of speed cameras. *Yet, while I think that they're dead wrong and possibly that they've been brainwashed, I and others manage to conduct polite and interesting discussions with them. David Damerell, Doug, Glug and others are as anti-motorist as Chapman. *Yet, while I may make fun of them at times and comment on their idiocy and ****wittedness (at least in Glug's case), I and others never attack and despise them in the same way as we do Chapman. Spindrift and others are, like Chapman, motorist-haters who "cleverly" deny that they're anti-motorist as part of their "masterplan". Spindrift has said and done some undeniably vile things. *Yet none of them attract anywhere near as much derision and hatred as Chapman. Like Chapman, others lie, deceive, twist the facts and try to evade their opponents' points in order to attempt to railroad through arguments which they know to be incorrect in order to support some hidden agenda. *Others are thoroughly obnoxious, arrogant and infuriating people who do their best to keep things on the boil. Others label as "trolls" anyone who disagrees with their stated position. *Others pretend to own discussion groups when they don't, attempt to censor their opponents through various means, and tell people off for replying to the "wrong" posters. *Others abuse their administrator status on Wikipedia and other sites. *Others are renowned trolls who are banned from every forum that they've ever set foot in. *Others accuse people of making abusive phone calls which never even happened. *A small number of others even advocate measures which they know to be killing people. Yet, the Internet over, Chapman comes out again and again as *the* person who is, hands down, the most detested wherever he goes. *Why is this? *Clearly (at least to everyone except him and his pathetic, salivating sycophants), it is as a result of his behaviour, rather than that of those who dislike him so much. *So what is it about Chapman's behaviour which ****es off *so* many Internet users in so many different places, if none of the above deficiencies are unique to him? *Is it because he's the only one who *all* those deficiencies apply to? *Is there something particularly offensive about his general manner? *What is it that makes so many people despise him so very much? *Why do we have so many forum and newsgroup threads and posts, web pages, complaints, emails, etc all on the topic of how much people hate this one individual and how they intend to make his life difficult as a result? If only he would start addressing some of these points, and making genuine efforts to improve his behaviour instead of pretending that it "must be everyone else's fault", he would find that he was no longer as widely hated. *But of course he won't; not only is he far too arrogant to admit, even to himself, that his conduct is anything but perfect, but he actually seems to enjoy his infamy. *I guess he knows it's the only way that he'll ever get the attention that he thinks he deserves. So...why is Chapman so despised? Actually I don't despise Guy and find much if not most of what he says entirely sensible and good advice for cyclists, unlike the posts of many of the "pro-motorist" (i.e. anti anything that might make motorists slow down) lobby who post here. Rudi PS I am also a motorist as well as a cyclist in that I do drive a car when that is the most convenient thing to do |
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Why Is Chapman *So* Despised?
On 22 Apr, 19:41, "mileburner" wrote:
"Nuxx Bar" wrote in message ... It was commented the other day [big snip] He ain't. Get a life mate! I couldn't be bothered reading past the first paragraph. Wow, I didn't make it past the subject line. But agreed, he's not by me. I do hate the trolling on this news group though. However I do find it incredible how much of their lives they waste doing it. It's pretty much a full time job. |
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