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So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.
On 5/30/2020 7:48 PM, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2020 12:32:50 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 04:43:35 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped any bikes. https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys- thousands- of-bikes-and-scooters An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC: Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older- model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what one wishes with one's own property? It is a social good question/morality. Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it? I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to dispose of it in any manner I wish. Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s **** hole of a country. Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish. Paying it forward could be a wise investment. Safe Disposal? The original reference was to "bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre". Are you saying that a "recycling center" isn't a safe disposal? There is an eccellent book called Junkyard Planet that will educate on global recycling proceedures. It is a little bit date now that China and others have started to insist on cleaner "rubbish/recycleing" being sent to them. So, unless the bikes are disassembled, then components crushed, then I'd say it isn't safe. My 2c is that these bikes are a good opportunity to provide a resource for charity and Uber/other could get brownie points for allowing a local charity to take the good ones off their hands for repurposing. Coerced seizure of property is not charity. Charity is a fine thing but even diminished value through regulation is not charity. Do as you will with what you have but the other guy can certainly make his own decision on his property. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.
On 5/31/2020 9:47 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/31/2020 1:15 AM, John B. wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:36:43 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 09:08:17 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 00:36:25 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 07:30:46 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 5/29/2020 11:43 PM, news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped any bikes. https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys- thousands- of-bikes-and-scooters An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC: Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older- model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what one wishes with one's own property? It is a social good question/morality. Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it? I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to dispose of it in any manner I wish. Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s **** hole of a country. Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish. Paying it forward could be a wise investment. I'm with Mr Slocumb. You missed the principle. Without property rights there is no liberty. I didn't miss the principle. As I said, you are free to be an arsehole if you wish. You mean being an arsehole for doing as I want to with my own property? What an amazing attitude. No, from your attitude. Of course, given your attitude toyour right, you'll be as stupid as tommy in understnding the point. Oh Well. You will, please, get rid of your bicycle as I decree that you no longer require it. I have decided that you just aren't "the bicycle" type at all. Feel free to disassemble it, destroy it donate it to the needy, whatever, but get rid of it. Immediately! As I said, it is your attitude that is the problem and your inability is clearly demonstrated above. Right, my attitude.That strange belief that what is mine is mine to do with as I wish. While you, being the superior individual that you so obviously are, have the God given right to tell others what they should do with their property. Your arrogance is positively amazing. John, you are usually free to do what you want with your property, provided you don't harm others. But if you spent a million to buy a Stradivarius violin, then filmed yourself stomping it to bits, people would rightly think there was something wrong with you. Heck, if you took several of your own $100 bills and publicly set them on fire, people would think the same. Behaviors somewhat like that are used by some celebrities and some wannabe celebrities. It's legal, but it's dumb. I'm surprised you'd ever advocate it. That may be troubling to people who care what other people think. meh. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.
On 5/31/2020 11:15 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 7:48:05 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 5/31/2020 1:15 AM, John B. wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:36:43 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 09:08:17 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 00:36:25 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 07:30:46 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 5/29/2020 11:43 PM, news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped any bikes. https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys- thousands- of-bikes-and-scooters An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC: Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older- model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what one wishes with one's own property? It is a social good question/morality. Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it? I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to dispose of it in any manner I wish. Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s **** hole of a country. Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish. Paying it forward could be a wise investment. I'm with Mr Slocumb. You missed the principle. Without property rights there is no liberty. I didn't miss the principle. As I said, you are free to be an arsehole if you wish. You mean being an arsehole for doing as I want to with my own property? What an amazing attitude. No, from your attitude. Of course, given your attitude toyour right, you'll be as stupid as tommy in understnding the point. Oh Well. You will, please, get rid of your bicycle as I decree that you no longer require it. I have decided that you just aren't "the bicycle" type at all. Feel free to disassemble it, destroy it donate it to the needy, whatever, but get rid of it. Immediately! As I said, it is your attitude that is the problem and your inability is clearly demonstrated above. Right, my attitude.That strange belief that what is mine is mine to do with as I wish. While you, being the superior individual that you so obviously are, have the God given right to tell others what they should do with their property. Your arrogance is positively amazing. John, you are usually free to do what you want with your property, provided you don't harm others. But if you spent a million to buy a Stradivarius violin, then filmed yourself stomping it to bits, people would rightly think there was something wrong with you. Heck, if you took several of your own $100 bills and publicly set them on fire, people would think the same. Burning money, however, is a federal offense. Nanny government is interfering with your God given property rights! https://www.thoughtco.com/is-burning...llegal-3367953 Huh. But the article makes it sound like "freedom of speech" might be a defense. So if you said "Watch me burn these $100 bills to demonstrate the folly of avarice" you might be OK? But if you said "Watch me burn these $100 bills to prove I'm a jerk" you could be prosecuted? Hmm. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe calling oneself a jerk is protected speech? It's so confusing. That's why IANAL. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.
On 5/31/2020 1:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/30/2020 7:48 PM, news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 12:32:50 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 04:43:35 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped any bikes. https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys- thousands- of-bikes-and-scooters An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC: Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older- model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what one wishes with one's own property? It is a social good question/morality. Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it? I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to dispose of it in any manner I wish. Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s **** hole of a country. Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish. Paying it forward could be a wise investment. Safe Disposal? The original reference was to "bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre". Are you saying that a "recycling center" isn't a safe disposal? There is an eccellent book called Junkyard Planet that will educate on global recycling proceedures. It is a little bit date now that China and others have started to insist on cleaner "rubbish/recycleing" being sent to them. So, unless the bikes are disassembled, then components crushed, then I'd say it isn't safe. My 2c is that these bikes are a good opportunity to provide a resource for charity and Uber/other could get brownie points for allowing a local charity to take the good ones off their hands for repurposing. Coerced seizure of property is not charity. Charity is a fine thing but even diminished value through regulation is not charity. Do as you will with what you have but the other guy can certainly make his own decision on his property. As with so many other topics that come up here - even the (rare) bicycle technical ones: Sure, people can make their own choices. They have freedom of choice. But others can discuss those choices. We have freedom of speech; and this _is_ a discussion group. "All choices are equally valid" is way too liberal for me. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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So much fr a growth in bicycle riding from the pandemic.
On Sun, 31 May 2020 10:47:58 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 5/31/2020 1:15 AM, John B. wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:36:43 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 09:08:17 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 00:36:25 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 07:30:46 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 5/29/2020 11:43 PM, news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped any bikes. https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys- thousands- of-bikes-and-scooters An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC: Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older- model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what one wishes with one's own property? It is a social good question/morality. Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it? I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to dispose of it in any manner I wish. Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s **** hole of a country. Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish. Paying it forward could be a wise investment. I'm with Mr Slocumb. You missed the principle. Without property rights there is no liberty. I didn't miss the principle. As I said, you are free to be an arsehole if you wish. You mean being an arsehole for doing as I want to with my own property? What an amazing attitude. No, from your attitude. Of course, given your attitude toyour right, you'll be as stupid as tommy in understnding the point. Oh Well. You will, please, get rid of your bicycle as I decree that you no longer require it. I have decided that you just aren't "the bicycle" type at all. Feel free to disassemble it, destroy it donate it to the needy, whatever, but get rid of it. Immediately! As I said, it is your attitude that is the problem and your inability is clearly demonstrated above. Right, my attitude.That strange belief that what is mine is mine to do with as I wish. While you, being the superior individual that you so obviously are, have the God given right to tell others what they should do with their property. Your arrogance is positively amazing. John, you are usually free to do what you want with your property, provided you don't harm others. But if you spent a million to buy a Stradivarius violin, then filmed yourself stomping it to bits, people would rightly think there was something wrong with you. Heck, if you took several of your own $100 bills and publicly set them on fire, people would think the same. Behaviors somewhat like that are used by some celebrities and some wannabe celebrities. It's legal, but it's dumb. I'm surprised you'd ever advocate it. Actually Frank, I wasn't advocating anything. I was arguing that an entity has the right to do what it wishes with it's own property. Are you arguing that one doesn't? As for others thinking that one is a bit off to burn one's $100 bills? Well, perhaps. Just as one must certainly be a bit off to spend, oh say, $3,000 on a bicycle.... and ride it in the rain? " Good Lord! Can't they afford a car?" -- cheers, John B. |
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 16:16:07 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 5/31/2020 1:18 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 5/30/2020 7:48 PM, news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 12:32:50 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 04:43:35 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped any bikes. https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys- thousands- of-bikes-and-scooters An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC: Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older- model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what one wishes with one's own property? It is a social good question/morality. Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it? I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to dispose of it in any manner I wish. Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s **** hole of a country. Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish. Paying it forward could be a wise investment. Safe Disposal? The original reference was to "bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre". Are you saying that a "recycling center" isn't a safe disposal? There is an eccellent book called Junkyard Planet that will educate on global recycling proceedures. It is a little bit date now that China and others have started to insist on cleaner "rubbish/recycleing" being sent to them. So, unless the bikes are disassembled, then components crushed, then I'd say it isn't safe. My 2c is that these bikes are a good opportunity to provide a resource for charity and Uber/other could get brownie points for allowing a local charity to take the good ones off their hands for repurposing. Coerced seizure of property is not charity. Charity is a fine thing but even diminished value through regulation is not charity. Do as you will with what you have but the other guy can certainly make his own decision on his property. As with so many other topics that come up here - even the (rare) bicycle technical ones: Sure, people can make their own choices. They have freedom of choice. But others can discuss those choices. We have freedom of speech; and this _is_ a discussion group. "All choices are equally valid" is way too liberal for me. Why aren't all choices equally valid... for those individuals that make the choice? I can certainly find literally hordes of people that don't think that an engineering career is suitable, that playing a banjo is music, that riding a bicycle displays even minimal intelligence, even that living in Ohio is a logical choice :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:15:56 +0700, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:36:43 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: As I said, it is your attitude that is the problem and your inability is clearly demonstrated above. Right, my attitude.That strange belief that what is mine is mine to do with as I wish. no problem there, but by the same reasoning, While you, being the superior individual that you so obviously are, have the God given right to tell others what they should do with their property. Unlike you I didn't tell anyone, but may a suggestion for what I see as more desireable for the advancement of "bums on bicyce seats" Your arrogance is positively amazing. Yes, I have the same rights to my opinion as they do to their decision on disposal. Given that Uber is just another greedy coporate parasite, I have no shame in my opinion. You really should get over it. |
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:25:24 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/31/2020 9:47 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: John, you are usually free to do what you want with your property, provided you don't harm others. But if you spent a million to buy a Stradivarius violin, then filmed yourself stomping it to bits, people would rightly think there was something wrong with you. Heck, if you took several of your own $100 bills and publicly set them on fire, people would think the same. Behaviors somewhat like that are used by some celebrities and some wannabe celebrities. It's legal, but it's dumb. I'm surprised you'd ever advocate it. That may be troubling to people who care what other people think. meh. If you don't care what people think, then you'd do it in private. |
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:18:42 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/30/2020 7:48 PM, news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 12:32:50 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 04:43:35 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:41:31 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 02:00:34 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2020 06:00:08 +0700, John B. wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2020 12:49:36 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832791 Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older-model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. In the UK, Uber continues to operate Jump and has not scrapped any bikes. https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/0...uber-destroys- thousands- of-bikes-and-scooters An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC: Uber is destroying thousands of electric bikes and scooters, after selling its Jump business to Lime. Videos of its red bikes being crushed at a recycling centre were shared on social media, angering cycling advocates. Uber said it had decided to destroy thousands of its older- model vehicles due to maintenance, liability and safety concerns. But, "so what"? Don't the bikes belong to Uber? Can't one do what one wishes with one's own property? It is a social good question/morality. Do you throw every thing into municipal rubbish dumps, or do you distribute it to charities that might obtain some use of it? I would have to say that it is my property than I have the right to dispose of it in any manner I wish. Typical first world arrogance. And wrong, unless you live in s **** hole of a country. Most modern countries have laws about safe disposal of property, so after that, you are free to be an asshole/asrsehole if you wish. Paying it forward could be a wise investment. Safe Disposal? The original reference was to "bikes being crushed at a US recycling centre". Are you saying that a "recycling center" isn't a safe disposal? There is an eccellent book called Junkyard Planet that will educate on global recycling proceedures. It is a little bit date now that China and others have started to insist on cleaner "rubbish/recycleing" being sent to them. So, unless the bikes are disassembled, then components crushed, then I'd say it isn't safe. My 2c is that these bikes are a good opportunity to provide a resource for charity and Uber/other could get brownie points for allowing a local charity to take the good ones off their hands for repurposing. Coerced seizure of property is not charity. Charity is a fine thing but even diminished value through regulation is not charity. Do as you will with what you have but the other guy can certainly make his own decision on his property. Trolling? My comment was on corporate activites and not government seisure. |
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On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 00:46:22 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:15:56 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2020 03:36:43 -0000 (UTC), news18 wrote: As I said, it is your attitude that is the problem and your inability is clearly demonstrated above. Right, my attitude.That strange belief that what is mine is mine to do with as I wish. no problem there, but by the same reasoning, While you, being the superior individual that you so obviously are, have the God given right to tell others what they should do with their property. Unlike you I didn't tell anyone, but may a suggestion for what I see as more desireable for the advancement of "bums on bicyce seats" Your arrogance is positively amazing. Yes, I have the same rights to my opinion as they do to their decision on disposal. Given that Uber is just another greedy coporate parasite, I have no shame in my opinion. You really should get over it. Greedy coporate parasite? You mean sort of like, oh say, Wesfarmers in Perth, that employ 217,000 Australians? Or maybe Woolworths Group that employ 201,522 ? Without all those "greedy coporate parasites" there would't be any jobs. -- cheers, John B. |
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