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Sapim CX-Ray spokes.
Recently a spoke in the front wheel of my Flashpoint 60 carbon
wheelset broke in two near the hub were it crossed another spoke. So, I ordered some replacement Sapim CX-Ray bladed spokes from Wheelbuilders.com. I ordered five of three different length spokes as the front wheel uses one length both sides but the back wheel uses different (and slightly shorter) lengths depending upon drive or non drive side I guess because of the way the wheel is dished. The spokes arrived and I threaded the original spoke nipple onto the threaded end of the old broken spoke upside-down so I could pass the nipple through the hole in the aluminum rim and out to the hole in the carbon wheel a distance of a 60mm. My plan was to then thread the nipple onto the replacement spoke and off the old broken spoke I was using to guide the nipple. But, alas, the nipple wouldn't thread onto the new spoke more than about a turn before it commenced to bind up. Well, it turns out there are two commonly used spokes and spoke nipples 5 gauge and 6 gauge. It appears that the original Sapim spokes are 6 gauge while the replacement Sapim spokes are 5 gauge. So I had to order some 5 gauge nipples from Wheelbuilders.com. They arrived via FedEx yesterday and using the new nipple and the new spoke they threaded together easily. So, I trued the wheel back up and am ready to go. So what's five gauge and six gauge mean? Is it a measure of thread diameter or thread pitch? With the naked eye I can't see a difference at all so it's very minor. And, why don't they mark spokes with a 5 or a 6 so one wouldn't have to guess what nipple to use? -- Sir Gregory |
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On 24/07/2013 21:58, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
Recently a spoke in the front wheel of my Flashpoint 60 carbon wheelset broke in two near the hub were it crossed another spoke. Probably cause of the awesome force you were feeding into the bike thru your epoxy'd up shoes. |
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Sapim CX-Ray spokes.
"atriage" wrote in message
eb.com... On 24/07/2013 21:58, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote: Recently a spoke in the front wheel of my Flashpoint 60 carbon wheelset broke in two near the hub were it crossed another spoke. Probably cause of the awesome force you were feeding into the bike thru your epoxy'd up shoes. It's not cheap shoes, dude. Have you ever really tried to pull up as hard as you push down on the pedals? Well, I have and I do and some shoes just can't take it. Especially, if they've been ridden in the rain from time to time. The cheap factory glue gets soft or something. Shoes for the mass market are being made flimsier and flimsier. The manufacturers seem to think that we all have extremely narrow feet and weak legs. I bought a pair of 300 dollar Shimano road shoes with carbon soles - the kind you can put in an oven to fit them to your feet and the soles at the cleats came loose from those too. I bet the more powerful pros have their shoes custom made with the soles stitched on with some seriously thick thread. -- Sir Gregory |
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On 7/24/2013 1:56 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
"atriage" wrote in message eb.com... On 24/07/2013 21:58, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote: Recently a spoke in the front wheel of my Flashpoint 60 carbon wheelset broke in two near the hub were it crossed another spoke. Probably cause of the awesome force you were feeding into the bike thru your epoxy'd up shoes. It's not cheap shoes, dude. Have you ever really tried to pull up as hard as you push down on the pedals? Well, I have and I do and some shoes just can't take it. Especially, if they've been ridden in the rain from time to time. The cheap factory glue gets soft or something. Shoes for the mass market are being made flimsier and flimsier. The manufacturers seem to think that we all have extremely narrow feet and weak legs. I bought a pair of 300 dollar Shimano road shoes with carbon soles - the kind you can put in an oven to fit them to your feet and the soles at the cleats came loose from those too. I bet the more powerful pros have their shoes custom made with the soles stitched on with some seriously thick thread. I don't think you baked 'em long enough. -Mark J. |
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On 24/07/2013 23:55, Mark J. wrote:
On 7/24/2013 1:56 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote: "atriage" wrote in message eb.com... On 24/07/2013 21:58, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote: Recently a spoke in the front wheel of my Flashpoint 60 carbon wheelset broke in two near the hub were it crossed another spoke. Probably cause of the awesome force you were feeding into the bike thru your epoxy'd up shoes. It's not cheap shoes, dude. Have you ever really tried to pull up as hard as you push down on the pedals? Well, I have and I do and some shoes just can't take it. Especially, if they've been ridden in the rain from time to time. The cheap factory glue gets soft or something. Shoes for the mass market are being made flimsier and flimsier. The manufacturers seem to think that we all have extremely narrow feet and weak legs. I bought a pair of 300 dollar Shimano road shoes with carbon soles - the kind you can put in an oven to fit them to your feet and the soles at the cleats came loose from those too. I bet the more powerful pros have their shoes custom made with the soles stitched on with some seriously thick thread. I don't think you baked 'em long enough. He forgot to put frosting on them after he took them out of the oven. |
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On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:58:24 PM UTC-7, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq� wrote:
Recently a spoke in the front wheel of my Flashpoint 60 carbon wheelset broke in two near the hub were it crossed another spoke. So, I ordered some replacement Sapim CX-Ray bladed spokes from Wheelbuilders.com. I ordered five of three different length spokes as the front wheel uses one length both sides but the back wheel uses different (and slightly shorter) lengths depending upon drive or non drive side I guess because of the way the wheel is dished. The spokes arrived and I threaded the original spoke nipple onto the threaded end of the old broken spoke upside-down so I could pass the nipple through the hole in the aluminum rim and out to the hole in the carbon wheel a distance of a 60mm. My plan was to then thread the nipple onto the replacement spoke and off the old broken spoke I was using to guide the nipple. But, alas, the nipple wouldn't thread onto the new spoke more than about a turn before it commenced to bind up. Well, it turns out there are two commonly used spokes and spoke nipples 5 gauge and 6 gauge. It appears that the original Sapim spokes are 6 gauge while the replacement Sapim spokes are 5 gauge. So I had to order some 5 gauge nipples from Wheelbuilders.com. They arrived via FedEx yesterday and using the new nipple and the new spoke they threaded together easily. So, I trued the wheel back up and am ready to go. So what's five gauge and six gauge mean? Is it a measure of thread diameter or thread pitch? With the naked eye I can't see a difference at all so it's very minor. And, why don't they mark spokes with a 5 or a 6 so one wouldn't have to guess what nipple to use? -- Sir Gregory All the spokes I've ever bought came with the nipple. I'm surprised they sell them without it. Phil H |
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"Phil H" wrote in message
... // // All the spokes I've ever bought came with the nipple. I'm /// surprised they sell them without it. Phil H Apparently the nipples not only come in different gauges but different lengths as well 12mm, 14mm etc. I would have ordered nipples along with the spokes but I figured I could reuse the existing nipples as there wasn't anything wrong with them. Next time I have to order spokes I will, indeed, order the nipples for them at the same time. |
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