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On 8/8/2018 3:57 PM, Max Nosugar wrote:
Thanks guys! I actually set up a track bike on the road. So yeah I wasnt thinking if it was a good idea. Appreciate your responses. Its cool to have a 3 speed rear hub for fixie now. So getting this will allow me to convert fixie into a road bike of some sort? Correct? Sure, depending on what the definition of 'is' is. A fixed three is an unique thing but exactly fulfills your request. A rose, or fixie, by any other name, etc. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 09/08/18 06:57, Max Nosugar wrote:
Its cool to have a 3 speed rear hub for fixie now er, is it still a fixte? Sounds like I my first ride with a 3 speed Sturney Archer hub. bTW, i've heard of dual speed fixties from the 40's/50's where they had one cog on one side for racing and another on the other side for riding home. You just swopped the wheel around to change gears. |
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On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 9:06:03 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On 09/08/18 06:57, Max Nosugar wrote: Its cool to have a 3 speed rear hub for fixie now er, is it still a fixte? Sounds like I my first ride with a 3 speed Sturney Archer hub. bTW, i've heard of dual speed fixties from the 40's/50's where they had one cog on one side for racing and another on the other side for riding home. You just swopped the wheel around to change gears. Flip flop hubs are still a thing, but I don't think OP is interested in stopping and flipping his wheel. He wants a fixed multi-speed bike, which I've had after breaking a freewheel back in the 5 speed days. It doesn't work well. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 8/8/2018 11:06 PM, news18 wrote:
On 09/08/18 06:57, Max Nosugar wrote: Its cool to have a 3 speed rear hub for fixie now er, is it still a fixte? Sounds like I my first ride with a 3 speed Sturney Archer hub. bTW, i've heard of dual speed fixties from the 40's/50's where they had one cog on one side for racing and another on the other side for riding home. You just swopped the wheel around to change gears. That was a standard race setup until the mid-1930s. Riders would flip to low gear before a climb. Go read about Tullio Campagnolo climbing the Croce d'Aune in 1927 for a great true story. In the 1940s, 50s 60s British riders used fork-mounted wheel carriers to tote their nice race wheels to the start. Clever little steel brackets held one wheel by the axle on each side of the fork. Couldn't find an image but Holdsworthy carried them and we sold them through the mid-1970s. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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AMuzi wrote:
:On 8/8/2018 11:06 PM, news18 wrote: : On 09/08/18 06:57, Max Nosugar wrote: : Its cool to have a 3 speed rear hub for fixie now : : er, is it still a fixte? : Sounds like I my first ride with a 3 speed Sturney Archer hub. : : bTW, i've heard of dual speed fixties from the 40's/50's : where they had one cog on one side for racing and another on : the other side for riding home. You just swopped the wheel : around to change gears. : :That was a standard race setup until the mid-1930s. Riders :would flip to low gear before a climb. Go read about Tullio :Campagnolo climbing the Croce d'Aune in 1927 for a great :true story. :In the 1940s, 50s 60s British riders used fork-mounted wheel :carriers to tote their nice race wheels to the start. Clever :little steel brackets held one wheel by the axle on each :side of the fork. Couldn't find an image but Holdsworthy :carried them and we sold them through the mid-1970s. Soemthing like these: https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/...or-cyclocross/ ? -- sig 98 |
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On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 11:31:05 AM UTC-4, David Scheidt wrote:
AMuzi wrote: :On 8/8/2018 11:06 PM, news18 wrote: : On 09/08/18 06:57, Max Nosugar wrote: : Its cool to have a 3 speed rear hub for fixie now : : er, is it still a fixte? : Sounds like I my first ride with a 3 speed Sturney Archer hub. : : bTW, i've heard of dual speed fixties from the 40's/50's : where they had one cog on one side for racing and another on : the other side for riding home. You just swopped the wheel : around to change gears. : :That was a standard race setup until the mid-1930s. Riders :would flip to low gear before a climb. Go read about Tullio :Campagnolo climbing the Croce d'Aune in 1927 for a great :true story. :In the 1940s, 50s 60s British riders used fork-mounted wheel :carriers to tote their nice race wheels to the start. Clever :little steel brackets held one wheel by the axle on each :side of the fork. Couldn't find an image but Holdsworthy :carried them and we sold them through the mid-1970s. Soemthing like these: https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/...or-cyclocross/ ? -- sig 98 Neat! I also like the last post on that page: "Jan Heine, Editor, Bicycle Quarterly says: November 6, 2015 at 12:16 am Both wheels use 6-speed freewheels. For mud, fewer cogs means less clogging.. I rarely use more than 3 or 4 gears in a ‘cross race anyhow." So, according to some, Less really is better than more. Cheers |
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On 8/9/2018 10:31 AM, David Scheidt wrote:
AMuzi wrote: :On 8/8/2018 11:06 PM, news18 wrote: : On 09/08/18 06:57, Max Nosugar wrote: : Its cool to have a 3 speed rear hub for fixie now : : er, is it still a fixte? : Sounds like I my first ride with a 3 speed Sturney Archer hub. : : bTW, i've heard of dual speed fixties from the 40's/50's : where they had one cog on one side for racing and another on : the other side for riding home. You just swopped the wheel : around to change gears. : :That was a standard race setup until the mid-1930s. Riders :would flip to low gear before a climb. Go read about Tullio :Campagnolo climbing the Croce d'Aune in 1927 for a great :true story. :In the 1940s, 50s 60s British riders used fork-mounted wheel :carriers to tote their nice race wheels to the start. Clever :little steel brackets held one wheel by the axle on each :side of the fork. Couldn't find an image but Holdsworthy :carried them and we sold them through the mid-1970s. Soemthing like these: https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/...or-cyclocross/ ? Yep, pretty simple and very useful to a pre-automobile culture. Thank you -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 11:17:27 AM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 11:31:05 AM UTC-4, David Scheidt wrote: AMuzi wrote: :On 8/8/2018 11:06 PM, news18 wrote: : On 09/08/18 06:57, Max Nosugar wrote: : Its cool to have a 3 speed rear hub for fixie now : : er, is it still a fixte? : Sounds like I my first ride with a 3 speed Sturney Archer hub. : : bTW, i've heard of dual speed fixties from the 40's/50's : where they had one cog on one side for racing and another on : the other side for riding home. You just swopped the wheel : around to change gears. : :That was a standard race setup until the mid-1930s. Riders :would flip to low gear before a climb. Go read about Tullio :Campagnolo climbing the Croce d'Aune in 1927 for a great :true story. :In the 1940s, 50s 60s British riders used fork-mounted wheel :carriers to tote their nice race wheels to the start. Clever :little steel brackets held one wheel by the axle on each :side of the fork. Couldn't find an image but Holdsworthy :carried them and we sold them through the mid-1970s. Soemthing like these: https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/...or-cyclocross/ ? -- sig 98 Neat! I also like the last post on that page: "Jan Heine, Editor, Bicycle Quarterly says: November 6, 2015 at 12:16 am Both wheels use 6-speed freewheels. For mud, fewer cogs means less clogging. I rarely use more than 3 or 4 gears in a ‘cross race anyhow." So, according to some, Less really is better than more. Cheers For Jan, old is always better than new -- that's his business model. He also says his old Alan is just as good or better than the modern CX bikes, which is spoken like someone under 170lbs who doesn't have to do a lot of braking in mud. On a CX bike with cantis, you start braking at the top of the muddy hill and hope you have some braking left at the bottom. With discs, you can effectively brake later in the hill and go faster, worrying only about traction. Also, his Alan has bar-ends, which are great for auto-shifting when you dismount or hike-a-bike. I'm amazed hes not riding steel, which is by far the most magical substance on earth besides vinyl LPs. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 8/9/2018 6:56 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 11:17:27 AM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 11:31:05 AM UTC-4, David Scheidt wrote: AMuzi wrote: :On 8/8/2018 11:06 PM, news18 wrote: : On 09/08/18 06:57, Max Nosugar wrote: : Its cool to have a 3 speed rear hub for fixie now : : er, is it still a fixte? : Sounds like I my first ride with a 3 speed Sturney Archer hub. : : bTW, i've heard of dual speed fixties from the 40's/50's : where they had one cog on one side for racing and another on : the other side for riding home. You just swopped the wheel : around to change gears. : :That was a standard race setup until the mid-1930s. Riders :would flip to low gear before a climb. Go read about Tullio :Campagnolo climbing the Croce d'Aune in 1927 for a great :true story. :In the 1940s, 50s 60s British riders used fork-mounted wheel :carriers to tote their nice race wheels to the start. Clever :little steel brackets held one wheel by the axle on each :side of the fork. Couldn't find an image but Holdsworthy :carried them and we sold them through the mid-1970s. Soemthing like these: https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/...or-cyclocross/ ? -- sig 98 Neat! I also like the last post on that page: "Jan Heine, Editor, Bicycle Quarterly says: November 6, 2015 at 12:16 am Both wheels use 6-speed freewheels. For mud, fewer cogs means less clogging. I rarely use more than 3 or 4 gears in a ‘cross race anyhow." So, according to some, Less really is better than more. Cheers For Jan, old is always better than new -- that's his business model. He also says his old Alan is just as good or better than the modern CX bikes, which is spoken like someone under 170lbs who doesn't have to do a lot of braking in mud. On a CX bike with cantis, you start braking at the top of the muddy hill and hope you have some braking left at the bottom. With discs, you can effectively brake later in the hill and go faster, worrying only about traction. Also, his Alan has bar-ends, which are great for auto-shifting when you dismount or hike-a-bike. I'm amazed hes not riding steel, which is by far the most magical substance on earth besides vinyl LPs. Wait - you mean steel is better than cast iron?? Jan seems to have had some good ideas. His core philosophy of examining older technology for inspiration seems OK to me. (As many here know, I don't agree with the idea that every technical improvement is a must-have, or even adds significantly to the non-racing riding experience.) I think he hit on something worthwhile with his rolling resistance testing and his love for wider tires. And if I'd heard soon enough about "rinko" bike disassembly for travel, I might have bought that instead of the Bike Friday. But I find much of the magazine copy to be just as fanciful as the typical issue of _Bicycling_ magazine. His "planing" effect of bike frames seems indistinguishable from magic. His worship of center pull brakes doesn't make sense to me. And I wonder if his frequent tests of super-expensive but old-style shorts, shoes, jerseys, etc. is just a way of getting nifty swag. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 8/9/2018 5:56 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 11:17:27 AM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 11:31:05 AM UTC-4, David Scheidt wrote: AMuzi wrote: :On 8/8/2018 11:06 PM, news18 wrote: : On 09/08/18 06:57, Max Nosugar wrote: : Its cool to have a 3 speed rear hub for fixie now : : er, is it still a fixte? : Sounds like I my first ride with a 3 speed Sturney Archer hub. : : bTW, i've heard of dual speed fixties from the 40's/50's : where they had one cog on one side for racing and another on : the other side for riding home. You just swopped the wheel : around to change gears. : :That was a standard race setup until the mid-1930s. Riders :would flip to low gear before a climb. Go read about Tullio :Campagnolo climbing the Croce d'Aune in 1927 for a great :true story. :In the 1940s, 50s 60s British riders used fork-mounted wheel :carriers to tote their nice race wheels to the start. Clever :little steel brackets held one wheel by the axle on each :side of the fork. Couldn't find an image but Holdsworthy :carried them and we sold them through the mid-1970s. Soemthing like these: https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/...or-cyclocross/ ? -- sig 98 Neat! I also like the last post on that page: "Jan Heine, Editor, Bicycle Quarterly says: November 6, 2015 at 12:16 am Both wheels use 6-speed freewheels. For mud, fewer cogs means less clogging. I rarely use more than 3 or 4 gears in a ‘cross race anyhow." So, according to some, Less really is better than more. Cheers For Jan, old is always better than new -- that's his business model. He also says his old Alan is just as good or better than the modern CX bikes, which is spoken like someone under 170lbs who doesn't have to do a lot of braking in mud. On a CX bike with cantis, you start braking at the top of the muddy hill and hope you have some braking left at the bottom. With discs, you can effectively brake later in the hill and go faster, worrying only about traction. Also, his Alan has bar-ends, which are great for auto-shifting when you dismount or hike-a-bike. I'm amazed hes not riding steel, which is by far the most magical substance on earth besides vinyl LPs. -- Jay Beattie. OK, good points all. But to win at UCI Cyclocross nobody has to beat _you_ to the finish, merely the other pros who show up at the start line. http://alanbike.it/wp-content/upload...tamsnjider.jpg https://www.rtvoost.nl/nieuws/defaul...-1#prettyPhoto[pp261778]/0/ -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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