Nature Valley Girl

http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycli...ds-the-peloton

Read this article and then read the comment at the bottom by "J Fun"
that points out Nature Valley GP offers the women only half the prize
money as the men, and the women also only get 1/4 of the men's TV
coverage.

Nice bitch slap to Dave LaPorte.

Magilla

MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycli...ds-the-peloton

Read this article and then read the comment at the bottom by "J Fun"
that points out Nature Valley GP offers the women only half the prize
money as the men, and the women also only get 1/4 of the men's TV
coverage.

Nice bitch slap to Dave LaPorte.

Magilla

Dumbass,

David LaPorte: The women's teams asked us to shift money from their
prize list to subsidize their entry fees, which are about half of
what we charge the men. This was their request and we honored it.
And the women's coverage was equal to the men's in the 2007 & 2008
TV shows.
November 29, 7:07 AM

David LaPorte: Incidentally, we also put prize money into the Women's
Prestige Cycling Series (which we organize) but don't do anything
equivalent for the men. And entry into that women-only series is free.
November 29, 7:29 AM


Dave walks the walk.

Bob Schwartz

Bob Schwartz wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycli...ds-the-peloton

Read this article and then read the comment at the bottom by "J Fun"
that points out Nature Valley GP offers the women only half the prize
money as the men, and the women also only get 1/4 of the men's TV
coverage.

Nice bitch slap to Dave LaPorte.

Magilla

Dumbass,

David LaPorte: The women's teams asked us to shift money from their
prize list to subsidize their entry fees, which are about half of
what we charge the men. This was their request and we honored it.
And the women's coverage was equal to the men's in the 2007 & 2008
TV shows.
November 29, 7:07 AM

David LaPorte: Incidentally, we also put prize money into the Women's
Prestige Cycling Series (which we organize) but don't do anything
equivalent for the men. And entry into that women-only series is free.
November 29, 7:29 AM

Dave walks the walk.

Bob Schwartz

Dear Bobby Brady,

Stop acting like a PR rep for Laporte, you jackass...or as Lonnie refers to him as.... "LaPorta Potty":

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Lonnie: The problem with Dave La Porta Potty's shell-game logic is team management pays the entry fee but it is the cyclists
who are the ones who receive the prize money - those are two completely different entities. So no female CYCLIST asked to
lower their prize money and entry fee at Nature Valley, since they don't pay the latter. All you did was hurt the women
cyclists by lowering the purse by $10k.

This is a financial concession to team management, but not the women racers - something Mr. LaPorta Potty doesn't seem to
acknowledge. Also, how many teams actually asked for this? Let's see the survey results and the names of the "teams" who
asked.

Nice try though.

As for the TV coverage being equal between the men and women - that's just not true. Again he cites 2007 and 2008, but the
race has been on TV for far longer than that. Sounds like LaPorta Potty concedes the coverage was unequal for women for all
the years before that. I also don't think it was equal for 2007 and 2008.

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Thanks,


Magilla

MagillaGorilla wrote:


Bob Schwartz wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:

http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycli...ds-the-peloton


Read this article and then read the comment at the bottom by "J Fun"
that points out Nature Valley GP offers the women only half the prize
money as the men, and the women also only get 1/4 of the men's TV
coverage.

Nice bitch slap to Dave LaPorte.

Magilla

Dumbass,

David LaPorte: The women's teams asked us to shift money from their
prize list to subsidize their entry fees, which are about half of
what we charge the men. This was their request and we honored it.
And the women's coverage was equal to the men's in the 2007 & 2008
TV shows.
November 29, 7:07 AM

David LaPorte: Incidentally, we also put prize money into the Women's
Prestige Cycling Series (which we organize) but don't do anything
equivalent for the men. And entry into that women-only series is free.
November 29, 7:29 AM

Dave walks the walk.

Bob Schwartz


Dear Bobby Brady,

Stop acting like a PR rep for Laporte, you jackass...or as Lonnie refers
to him as.... "LaPorta Potty":

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


*Lonnie:* The problem with Dave La Porta Potty's shell-game logic is
team management pays the entry fee but it is the cyclists who are the
ones who receive the prize money - those are two completely different
entities. So no female CYCLIST asked to lower their prize money and
entry fee at Nature Valley, since they don't pay the latter. All you did
was hurt the women cyclists by lowering the purse by $10k.

This is a financial concession to team management, but not the women
racers - something Mr. LaPorta Potty doesn't seem to acknowledge. Also,
how many teams actually asked for this? Let's see the survey results and
the names of the "teams" who asked.

Nice try though.

As for the TV coverage being equal between the men and women - that's
just not true. Again he cites 2007 and 2008, but the race has been on TV
for far longer than that. Sounds like LaPorta Potty concedes the
coverage was unequal for women for all the years before that. I also
don't think it was equal for 2007 and 2008.

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Thanks,


Magilla


Dumbass,

Lonnie should take that up with her team management. Because
yes, that's who LaPorte talks to when he is assembling his
field.

Bet she rides there this year if she has a team that will take
her.

Bob Schwartz

Bob Schwartz wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:


Bob Schwartz wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:

http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycli...ds-the-peloton


Read this article and then read the comment at the bottom by "J Fun"
that points out Nature Valley GP offers the women only half the prize
money as the men, and the women also only get 1/4 of the men's TV
coverage.

Nice bitch slap to Dave LaPorte.

Magilla

Dumbass,

David LaPorte: The women's teams asked us to shift money from their
prize list to subsidize their entry fees, which are about half of
what we charge the men. This was their request and we honored it.
And the women's coverage was equal to the men's in the 2007 & 2008
TV shows.
November 29, 7:07 AM

David LaPorte: Incidentally, we also put prize money into the Women's
Prestige Cycling Series (which we organize) but don't do anything
equivalent for the men. And entry into that women-only series is free.
November 29, 7:29 AM

Dave walks the walk.

Bob Schwartz


Dear Bobby Brady,

Stop acting like a PR rep for Laporte, you jackass...or as Lonnie refers
to him as.... "LaPorta Potty":

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


*Lonnie:* The problem with Dave La Porta Potty's shell-game logic is
team management pays the entry fee but it is the cyclists who are the
ones who receive the prize money - those are two completely different
entities. So no female CYCLIST asked to lower their prize money and
entry fee at Nature Valley, since they don't pay the latter. All you did
was hurt the women cyclists by lowering the purse by $10k.

This is a financial concession to team management, but not the women
racers - something Mr. LaPorta Potty doesn't seem to acknowledge. Also,
how many teams actually asked for this? Let's see the survey results and
the names of the "teams" who asked.

Nice try though.

As for the TV coverage being equal between the men and women - that's
just not true. Again he cites 2007 and 2008, but the race has been on TV
for far longer than that. Sounds like LaPorta Potty concedes the
coverage was unequal for women for all the years before that. I also
don't think it was equal for 2007 and 2008.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Thanks,


Magilla


Dumbass,

Lonnie should take that up with her team management. Because
yes, that's who LaPorte talks to when he is assembling his
field.

Bet she rides there this year if she has a team that will take
her.

Bob Schwartz

Hey Bobby Brady,

If it was such a great deal, how come the men's teams didn't do it too? Riddle me that one, Columbo. Also, the Colavita team
runs both a men's and women's team, yet they didn't seem to ask for that same concession for the men's team - why was that?

According to LaPorta Potty's logic, each team's MANAGEMENT saved $420. Yet the women's purse was lowered by $10,000. So the
women cyclists collectively lost $10,000. Yet Laporta Potty is trying to sell this as a good thing for women cyclists. See
the problem?

What a joke. I agree with Lonnie and J-****.

Porta Potty is trying to pull a fast one on the women cyclists while passing his race off as a great thing for women CYCLISTS.
And he got outed. His race might be good for MANAGEMENT, but not for the cyclists. Management doesn't speak for cyclists,
asswipe.

Hey do me a favor though - say hi to Marcia (and tell Jan to lose my number).


Thanks,

Magilla
The Undefeated Champion

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote:
MagillaGorilla wrote:


Bob Schwartz wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:


http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycli...ds-the-peloton



Read this article and then read the comment at the bottom by "J Fun"
that points out Nature Valley GP offers the women only half the
prize
money as the men, and the women also only get 1/4 of the men's TV
coverage.

Nice bitch slap to Dave LaPorte.

Magilla

Dumbass,

David LaPorte: The women's teams asked us to shift money from their
prize list to subsidize their entry fees, which are about half of
what we charge the men. This was their request and we honored it.
And the women's coverage was equal to the men's in the 2007 & 2008
TV shows.
November 29, 7:07 AM

David LaPorte: Incidentally, we also put prize money into the Women's
Prestige Cycling Series (which we organize) but don't do anything
equivalent for the men. And entry into that women-only series is free.
November 29, 7:29 AM

Dave walks the walk.

Bob Schwartz


Dear Bobby Brady,

Stop acting like a PR rep for Laporte, you jackass...or as Lonnie
refers
to him as.... "LaPorta Potty":


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



*Lonnie:* The problem with Dave La Porta Potty's shell-game logic is
team management pays the entry fee but it is the cyclists who are the
ones who receive the prize money - those are two completely different
entities. So no female CYCLIST asked to lower their prize money and
entry fee at Nature Valley, since they don't pay the latter. All you
did
was hurt the women cyclists by lowering the purse by $10k.

This is a financial concession to team management, but not the women
racers - something Mr. LaPorta Potty doesn't seem to acknowledge. Also,
how many teams actually asked for this? Let's see the survey results
and
the names of the "teams" who asked.

Nice try though.

As for the TV coverage being equal between the men and women - that's
just not true. Again he cites 2007 and 2008, but the race has been
on TV
for far longer than that. Sounds like LaPorta Potty concedes the
coverage was unequal for women for all the years before that. I also
don't think it was equal for 2007 and 2008.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Thanks,


Magilla


Dumbass,

Lonnie should take that up with her team management. Because
yes, that's who LaPorte talks to when he is assembling his
field.

Bet she rides there this year if she has a team that will take
her.

Bob Schwartz


Hey Bobby Brady,

If it was such a great deal, how come the men's teams didn't do it too?
Riddle me that one, Columbo. Also, the Colavita team runs both a men's
and women's team, yet they didn't seem to ask for that same concession
for the men's team - why was that?

According to LaPorta Potty's logic, each team's MANAGEMENT saved $420.
Yet the women's purse was lowered by $10,000. So the *women cyclists*
collectively lost $10,000. Yet Laporta Potty is trying to sell this as
a good thing for *women cyclists.* See the problem?

What a joke. I agree with Lonnie and J-****.

Porta Potty is trying to pull a fast one on the women cyclists while
passing his race off as a great thing for women CYCLISTS. And he got
outed. His race might be good for MANAGEMENT, but not for the
cyclists. Management doesn't speak for cyclists, asswipe.

Hey do me a favor though - say hi to Marcia (and tell Jan to lose my
number).


Thanks,

Magilla
The Undefeated Champion

Retard,

The Womens entry was $70 lower than the Mens. There were 134 starters.
Do the math, it didn't mean anything for Laporte.

Lonnie should grow a pair and take it up with her team's management.
That's who decides where she races, what what she gets paid to do it.

Bob Schwartz

On Nov 29, 8:24*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycli...1d25-Womens-Pr...

Read this article and then read the comment at the bottom by "J Fun"
that points out Nature Valley GP offers the women only half the prize
money as the men, and the women also only get 1/4 of the men's TV
coverage.

Nice bitch slap to Dave LaPorte.

dumbass,

a racer (or not even perhaps) whines about something at a bike race
and you call that a bitch slap ?

the organizer is the party that generates the revenue, pays the
expenses and pays out the prize purse, and also takes on any financial
risk. so, ultimately any choices about the entry fee or the purse are
the organizers - with the concession that he has to meet the
conditions for the sanction he wants the race held under.

offering the women a tiny purse isn't going to make people think
you're a nice guy and it's bad PR, but a lot of business decisions
aren't going to make a person look like a nice guy, so the organizer
shouldn't feel compelled to justify his decision.

Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:24*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycli...1d25-Womens-Pr...

Read this article and then read the comment at the bottom by "J Fun"
that points out Nature Valley GP offers the women only half the prize
money as the men, and the women also only get 1/4 of the men's TV
coverage.

Nice bitch slap to Dave LaPorte.

dumbass,

a racer (or not even perhaps) whines about something at a bike race
and you call that a bitch slap ?

the organizer is the party that generates the revenue, pays the
expenses and pays out the prize purse, and also takes on any financial
risk. so, ultimately any choices about the entry fee or the purse are
the organizers - with the concession that he has to meet the
conditions for the sanction he wants the race held under.

offering the women a tiny purse isn't going to make people think
you're a nice guy and it's bad PR, but a lot of business decisions
aren't going to make a person look like a nice guy, so the organizer
shouldn't feel compelled to justify his decision.

The problem is "LaPorta Potty" wrote an email to the author of the original
article bragging about how the Nature Valley Girl race was a "model" to
emulate for all women's races. But then a few posters pointed out that he
only offers women half the prize money! That, my friend, is a bitch-slap.

Basically, LaPorta Potty was caught with his pants down by his ankles and
someone opened the plastic door on him. And everyone is now left with that
image.

LaPorta Potty was also trying to argue - after the unequal prize money
disparity was brought to light - that it was okay to do that because the
"women" asked for it in exchange for a lower entry fee. But what the posters
also pointed out was that it wasn't the WOMEN RACERS that asked for the lower
entry fee and prize money, but rather the TEAM MANAGERS. Those ae two
totally different entities with conflicting interests.

In fact, no woman racer asked for their prize money to be cut in half. But
LaPorta Potty tried to make it sound like they did and that he was doing them
a favor by cutting their prize money in half. In fact, he was harming women
cyclists by doing that and going against the will of 100% of the women
racers.

He also made ridiculous statements that team managers represent the interests
of women cyclists. That's like saying corporations represent the Teamsters
union. It's a ****ing joke.

Is this guy really a professor?

Magilla

LaPorta Potty was also trying to argue - after the unequal prize money
disparity was brought to light - that it was okay to do that because the
"women" asked for it in exchange for a lower entry fee. *But what the posters
also pointed out was that it wasn't the WOMEN RACERS that asked for the lower
entry fee and prize money, but rather the TEAM MANAGERS. *Those are two
totally different entities with conflicting interests.

Women's racing needs bigger and deeper fields which will bring better
racing. The unfortunate fact is that prize money doesn't seem to
guarantee bigger women's fields (unlike the men) because the prize
money is won by the few decent racers. So it's actually not a bad
idea to lower barriers to entry to get bigger fields, which eventually
will make for better racing. There are countless promoters who have
offered good prize lists for women only to have a relative handful of
racers show up.

" wrote:


LaPorta Potty was also trying to argue - after the unequal prize money
disparity was brought to light - that it was okay to do that because the
"women" asked for it in exchange for a lower entry fee. *But what the posters
also pointed out was that it wasn't the WOMEN RACERS that asked for the lower
entry fee and prize money, but rather the TEAM MANAGERS. *Those are two
totally different entities with conflicting interests.

Women's racing needs bigger and deeper fields which will bring better
racing. The unfortunate fact is that prize money doesn't seem to
guarantee bigger women's fields (unlike the men) because the prize
money is won by the few decent racers. So it's actually not a bad
idea to lower barriers to entry to get bigger fields, which eventually
will make for better racing. There are countless promoters who have
offered good prize lists for women only to have a relative handful of
racers show up.

You're putting the cart before the horse. Women's racing needs more money before
it can get bigger and deeper fields. What's ruining women's cycling is a lack of
money, not a lack of talent.

Thanks,

Magilla