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Bob Schwartz wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Women's cycling fields are low throughout the country regardless of purse
or entry fee because there is no future in cycling for an aspiring female
Cat. 5...because there is no money to be made at the elite level.

Dumbass,

There is no money to be made at the elite level, except for
a very few men. This doesn't hurt the depth of men's racing.

Your premise is wrong. Try again. Doping exists because there's a lot of
money to be made in the sport at the upper echelons of the sport Guys like
Sink-a-bitch who would otherwise be working in a foundry welding pipes
together can make $900,000 USD in cycling for what were ****ty results he got
while doped up on EPO and blood transfusions.

Thanks,

Magilla

Bob Schwartz wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Women's cycling fields are low throughout the country regardless of purse
or entry fee because there is no future in cycling for an aspiring female
Cat. 5...because there is no money to be made at the elite level.

Dumbass,

There is no money to be made at the elite level, except for
a very few men. This doesn't hurt the depth of men's racing.

Don't you find it interesting that no women RACERS are sticking
up for you in the comment thread?


Hey Rocket Scientist,

No women RACERS are sticking up for me because they don't read or post here.

BTW, let me let you in on a little secret, LogicMan: no woman cyclist is
sticking up for you either.

Think before you post.


Magilla

Bob Schwartz wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Women's cycling fields are low throughout the country regardless of purse
or entry fee because there is no future in cycling for an aspiring female
Cat. 5...because there is no money to be made at the elite level.

Dumbass,

There is no money to be made at the elite level, except for
a very few men. This doesn't hurt the depth of men's racing.

Don't you find it interesting that no women RACERS are sticking
up for you in the comment thread?

You should talk to that guy in Philly that used to run those
trashcan UCI cyclocross races. The stuff that the 2nd tier
Belgian guys hate because it puts guys that can't ride their
bikes ahead of them at the start.

Andrew Albright and his MonkeyHill Cyclocross races, you mean? Yeah, I've
heard of that guy before.

Magilla

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Andrew Albright and his MonkeyHill Cyclocross races, you mean? Yeah, I've
heard of that guy before.

Yeah, I thought you might.

Bob Schwartz

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Women's cycling fields are low throughout the country regardless of purse
or entry fee because there is no future in cycling for an aspiring female
Cat. 5...because there is no money to be made at the elite level.
Dumbass,

There is no money to be made at the elite level, except for
a very few men. This doesn't hurt the depth of men's racing.

Your premise is wrong. Try again. Doping exists because there's a lot of
money to be made in the sport at the upper echelons of the sport Guys like
Sink-a-bitch who would otherwise be working in a foundry welding pipes
together can make $900,000 USD in cycling for what were ****ty results he got
while doped up on EPO and blood transfusions.

Dumbass,

Sink-a-bitch is one of a very few people at the top.
Like any professional sport it takes great sacrifice
to make it to the level where you are doing NRC races,
following UCI rules, and spending your summer in host
housing.

On a percentage basis almost no one advances far
enough to out-earn the guy welding pipes at the
foundry.

The difference in women's racing is that there is no
upper echelon elite level where they make more than
the guys welding pipes.

Bob Schwartz

On Dec 1, 1:12*pm, MagillaGorilla

A minimum prize money requirement by both the UCI and USAC is stupid because:

1.) Neither make it a rule that women be paid the same as men. *This is
discriminatory and the women have a right to complain about it.

this isn't what they're complaining about.

2.) There are no minimum salary requirement for women as their are for men, making
prize money for women their main source of income.

this isn't what they're complaining about

3.) Men make 3-4 times what women make in salary, so giving them less prize money on
top of that is adding insult to injury.

4.) Prize money matters a lot and is a direct reflection of the quality of an event
(at least in the eye of sponsors).

5.) Complaining about prize money being too low is not a violation of one's contract,
so I don't see anything wrong with it. In fact, it's a healthy thing to do.

do you always tell people what to do with their money ?

you can complain to the bank of sweden that since they gave paul
krugman a nobel prize you should get one too, but that doesn't mean
they owe you an explanation.

it's the organizer's discretion how to format entry fees and prizes.
the riders can always choose to not race the event if they feel the
arrangement is unfair.

Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Dec 1, 1:12*pm, MagillaGorilla

A minimum prize money requirement by both the UCI and USAC is stupid because:

1.) Neither make it a rule that women be paid the same as men. *This is
discriminatory and the women have a right to complain about it.

this isn't what they're complaining about.

2.) There are no minimum salary requirement for women as their are for men, making
prize money for women their main source of income.

this isn't what they're complaining about

3.) Men make 3-4 times what women make in salary, so giving them less prize money on
top of that is adding insult to injury.

4.) Prize money matters a lot and is a direct reflection of the quality of an event
(at least in the eye of sponsors).

5.) Complaining about prize money being too low is not a violation of one's contract,
so I don't see anything wrong with it. In fact, it's a healthy thing to do.

do you always tell people what to do with their money ?

you can complain to the bank of sweden that since they gave paul
krugman a nobel prize you should get one too, but that doesn't mean
they owe you an explanation.

it's the organizer's discretion how to format entry fees and prizes.
the riders can always choose to not race the event if they feel the
arrangement is unfair.

The team managers determine the race schedule, not the riders. So, not, they can't choose
not to race. Team managers don't care about prize money.

Thanks,

Magilla

MagillaGorilla wrote:
The team managers determine the race schedule, not the riders. So, not, they can't choose
not to race. Team managers don't care about prize money.

Sounds like you're saying the riders should take it up
with their team manager.

Bob Schwartz

On Dec 1, 1:25*pm, Bret wrote:

. From the moment one registers, until the crushing defeat,
there is a suspension of disbelief that you will not win. There is
some value in that suspension of disbelief and the larger the prize,
the more value there is in thinking you might win. This suggests that
one should pre-register for races as early as possible.

Interesting. I think there is probably some truth to that.

But I also think that even for the the pack-fill a big prize list
means "this is going to be a kick-ass race". And then you can tell
your friends, "yeah did the pro 1/2 race at blah blah blah it was the
hardest race I ever did blah blah blah I was putting out 400 watts and
then I detonated blah blah blah"

On Dec 1, 8:15*pm, MagillaGorilla


it's the organizer's discretion how to format entry fees and prizes.
the riders can always choose to not race the event if they feel the
arrangement is unfair.

The team managers determine the race schedule, not the riders. *So, not, they can't choose
not to race. Team managers don't care about prize money.


dumbass,

do you go to a nice restaurant and when you see the prices ask the
waiter to pay for your appetizer since the mains are so expensive ?
and when he declines and suggests you eat at home or at jack in the
box do you say your wife made you go there and you had no choice ?

apparently you think thats exactly how racers should act.