Cyclist killed

Yet another London cyclist has been killed by a skip driver.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5169

I expect the TfL railings are also partly to blame.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:03:26 +0000, Tom Crispin wrote:

Yet another London cyclist has been killed by a skip driver.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5169

I expect the TfL railings are also partly to blame.


Do you mean that they stopped him cycling on the pavement hence he had to mix it with the other
traffic?

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:56:53 +0000, Judith
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:03:26 +0000, Tom Crispin wrote:

Yet another London cyclist has been killed by a skip driver.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5169

I expect the TfL railings are also partly to blame.


Do you mean that they stopped him cycling on the pavement hence he had to mix it with the other
traffic?

In a way, yes.

They may have prevented him from using the footway as an emergency
escape from the wheels of the skip truck.

Commonly, the HGV left hook involves a cyclist being trapped between
railings and the HGV. Although the bicycle is not close to the
railings in the photo, it may have been dragged to its position post
collision.

On 23/03/2011 17:56, Judith wrote:

Tom wrote:

Yet another London cyclist has been killed by a skip driver.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5169

I expect the TfL railings are also partly to blame.

Do you mean that they stopped him cycling on the pavement hence he had to mix it with the other
traffic?

This sort of political fencing [no pun intended] isn't right in situations
like this.

A 20-yr-old is dead. To his parents, he'll have still been a boy, scarcely
out of secondary school.

Let the authorities worry about who to blame.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:58:09 +0000, JNugent
wrote:

On 23/03/2011 17:56, Judith wrote:

Tom wrote:

Yet another London cyclist has been killed by a skip driver.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5169

I expect the TfL railings are also partly to blame.

Do you mean that they stopped him cycling on the pavement hence he had to mix it with the other
traffic?

This sort of political fencing [no pun intended] isn't right in situations
like this.

A 20-yr-old is dead. To his parents, he'll have still been a boy, scarcely
out of secondary school.

Let the authorities worry about who to blame.

Thanks for the reality check, it is just about the most sensitive
thing I have heard from you.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:58:09 +0000, JNugent wrote:

On 23/03/2011 17:56, Judith wrote:

Tom wrote:

Yet another London cyclist has been killed by a skip driver.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5169

I expect the TfL railings are also partly to blame.

Do you mean that they stopped him cycling on the pavement hence he had to mix it with the other
traffic?

This sort of political fencing [no pun intended] isn't right in situations
like this.

A 20-yr-old is dead. To his parents, he'll have still been a boy, scarcely
out of secondary school.

Let the authorities worry about who to blame.


I am surprised you did not add the usual "My thoughts are with his family" - that really shows
concern and sincerity.

On 23/03/2011 19:19, Judith wrote:

wrote:
Judith wrote:
Tom wrote:

Yet another London cyclist has been killed by a skip driver.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5169

I expect the TfL railings are also partly to blame.

Do you mean that they stopped him cycling on the pavement hence he had to mix it with the other
traffic?

This sort of political fencing [no pun intended] isn't right in situations
like this.
A 20-yr-old is dead. To his parents, he'll have still been a boy, scarcely
out of secondary school.
Let the authorities worry about who to blame.

I am surprised you did not add the usual "My thoughts are with his family" - that really shows
concern and sincerity.

In situations like this, I try hard NOT to let my thoughts be "with the
family". It's far too unbearable.

There but for the grace of God...

On Mar 23, 7:19*pm, Judith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:58:09 +0000, JNugent wrote:
On 23/03/2011 17:56, Judith wrote:

Tom wrote:

Yet another London cyclist has been killed by a skip driver.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5169

I expect the TfL railings are also partly to blame.

Do you mean that they stopped him cycling on the pavement hence he had to mix it with the other
traffic?

This sort of political fencing [no pun intended] isn't right in situations
like this.

A 20-yr-old is dead. To his parents, he'll have still been a boy, scarcely
out of secondary school.

Let the authorities worry about who to blame.

I am surprised you did not add the usual "My thoughts are with his family" - that really shows
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It's odd that the usually callous Mr Cheerless has taken to calling
the girl killed four years ago by the "get out of my way" cyclist as
"Rhiannon". Mind you, after the number of times he has wheeled out
this case, she must appear as a family member by now.

"Our poor Rhiannon" cannot be far off.

I think Judith has a special term for this.

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Simon Mason

Tom Crispin wrote:
Yet another London cyclist has been killed by a skip driver.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5169

I expect the TfL railings are also partly to blame.

And another arrest on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.

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Tony

Tom Crispin wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:58:09 +0000, JNugent
wrote:

On 23/03/2011 17:56, Judith wrote:

Tom wrote:

Yet another London cyclist has been killed by a skip driver.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5169

I expect the TfL railings are also partly to blame.

Do you mean that they stopped him cycling on the pavement hence he had
to mix it with the other
traffic?

This sort of political fencing [no pun intended] isn't right in situations
like this.

A 20-yr-old is dead. To his parents, he'll have still been a boy, scarcely
out of secondary school.

Let the authorities worry about who to blame.

Thanks for the reality check, it is just about the most sensitive
thing I have heard from you.

+1

--
Tony