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Old November 3rd 07, 12:56 AM posted to alt.fan.cecil-adams,rec.bicycles.misc
Mike Kruger
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Default Fat people? Less gas!

According to a study by Charles Courtemanche, an additional $1 per gallon in
real gasoline prices would reduce U.S. obesity by 15 percent after five
years.

http://improbable.com/2007/10/30/fat...have-less-gas/


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Old November 3rd 07, 01:07 AM posted to alt.fan.cecil-adams,rec.bicycles.misc
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Mike Kruger wrote:
According to a study by Charles Courtemanche, an additional $1 per gallon in
real gasoline prices would reduce U.S. obesity by 15 percent after five
years.

http://improbable.com/2007/10/30/fat...have-less-gas/

Correlation and causation confused yet again.

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Old November 3rd 07, 01:29 AM posted to alt.fan.cecil-adams,rec.bicycles.misc
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Tom Sherman wrote:
Mike Kruger wrote:
According to a study by Charles Courtemanche, an additional $1 per
gallon in real gasoline prices would reduce U.S. obesity by 15 percent
after five years.

http://improbable.com/2007/10/30/fat...have-less-gas/

Correlation and causation confused yet again.


Did you read the dissertation? Because unless you did, how would you
know that that particular error has been committed?

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Old November 3rd 07, 02:49 AM posted to alt.fan.cecil-adams,rec.bicycles.misc
Mike Kruger
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Default Fat people? Less gas!

wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Mike Kruger wrote:
According to a study by Charles Courtemanche, an additional $1 per
gallon in real gasoline prices would reduce U.S. obesity by 15
percent after five years.

http://improbable.com/2007/10/30/fat...have-less-gas/

Correlation and causation confused yet again.


Did you read the dissertation? Because unless you did, how would you
know that that particular error has been committed?


An article he's submitted to a journal is here.
http://artsci.wustl.edu/%7Ecjcourte/gas_obesity.pdf

He seems to be hedging well enough for academic use: "A causal relationship
between gasoline prices and obesity is possible ... I find empirical support
for this theory. My estimates imply..." That's the start of the abstract.

I haven't read the entire paper yet. There's 19 equations, most of which
seem to be regressions.


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Old November 3rd 07, 04:14 AM posted to alt.fan.cecil-adams,rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Fat people? Less gas!

What is the average adult weight in countries with much higher gasoline
prices than the USA? Last time I visited England and Germany, I did not see
huge numbers of skinny people.
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Old November 3rd 07, 04:50 AM posted to alt.fan.cecil-adams,rec.bicycles.misc
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Mike Kruger wrote:

wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Mike Kruger wrote:
According to a study by Charles Courtemanche, an additional $1 per
gallon in real gasoline prices would reduce U.S. obesity by 15
percent after five years.

http://improbable.com/2007/10/30/fat...have-less-gas/

Correlation and causation confused yet again.


Did you read the dissertation? Because unless you did, how would you
know that that particular error has been committed?


An article he's submitted to a journal is here.
http://artsci.wustl.edu/%7Ecjcourte/gas_obesity.pdf

He seems to be hedging well enough for academic use: "A causal relationship
between gasoline prices and obesity is possible ... I find empirical support
for this theory. My estimates imply..." That's the start of the abstract.

I haven't read the entire paper yet. There's 19 equations, most of which
seem to be regressions.

If you put the price of gas at ten bucks a gallon, everyone is going to
ride their bikes. So they'll get less fat. How isn't that causation?


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Old November 3rd 07, 07:07 AM posted to alt.fan.cecil-adams,rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Fat people? Less gas!

In article ,
sally wrote:
What is the average adult weight in countries with much higher gasoline
prices than the USA? Last time I visited England and Germany, I did not see
huge numbers of skinny people.


These countries also have people with different physiognomies, and
mostly speak other languages. Should all of these factors have equal
weight? Why or why not? Discuss.

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Old November 3rd 07, 07:46 AM posted to alt.fan.cecil-adams,rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Fat people? Less gas!

In article ,
sally wrote:

What is the average adult weight in countries with much higher gasoline
prices than the USA? Last time I visited England and Germany, I did not see
huge numbers of skinny people.


I haven't seen body weight and gasoline prices correlated. But some work
has been done on body weight and urban form:

http://sciencenewsmagazine.org/artic...70120/bob9.asp

(longish)

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Old November 3rd 07, 08:57 AM posted to alt.fan.cecil-adams,rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Fat people? Less gas!

Hactar wrote:
In article ,
sally wrote:
What is the average adult weight in countries with much higher gasoline
prices than the USA? Last time I visited England and Germany, I did not see
huge numbers of skinny people.


These countries also have people with different physiognomies, and
mostly speak other languages. Should all of these factors have equal
weight? Why or why not? Discuss.


I have read in one print magazine that the cause of obesity in most
first-world countries is not usually lack of exercise, but an imbalanced
diet. Many of the persons studied could afford a healthier diet, they
just made poor choices for their food intake.
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Old November 3rd 07, 09:28 AM posted to alt.fan.cecil-adams,rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Fat people? Less gas!

In article ,
"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" writes:


Mike Kruger wrote:

wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Mike Kruger wrote:
According to a study by Charles Courtemanche, an additional $1 per
gallon in real gasoline prices would reduce U.S. obesity by 15
percent after five years.

http://improbable.com/2007/10/30/fat...have-less-gas/

Correlation and causation confused yet again.

Did you read the dissertation? Because unless you did, how would you
know that that particular error has been committed?


An article he's submitted to a journal is here.
http://artsci.wustl.edu/%7Ecjcourte/gas_obesity.pdf

He seems to be hedging well enough for academic use: "A causal relationship
between gasoline prices and obesity is possible ... I find empirical support
for this theory. My estimates imply..." That's the start of the abstract.

I haven't read the entire paper yet. There's 19 equations, most of which
seem to be regressions.

If you put the price of gas at ten bucks a gallon, everyone is going to
ride their bikes.


No they won't. They'll begrudgingly pay the
ten bucks a gallon, and continue to drive.
They're hooked. Totally and inextricably addicted.


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