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Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks
Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:58:18 GMT,
, "Buck" j u n k m a i l @ g a l a x y c o r p . c o m wrote: This has nothing to do with CM. He stopped because he thought he was doing you a favor. How 'bout the guy who sped up to pass me four car-lengths before a 4-way stop. Then he cut to the right. I figure he's going to turn. He's braking and I am too because I'm right behind him now. Okay, he's stopping, I'm dribbling along. Clear sight lines. No approaching traffic anywhere. Okay, he's still stopped and watching me in the mirror. I'm on him and doing a track stand. His backup lights come on. I dab. I'm looking right at the guy in his mirror and figuring out how I'm gonna ditch the bike and climb onto his trunk lid. He puts it into drive and proceeds normally. WTF was that? I'm still trying to nail down examples to support this popular backlash myth before I'll even stick my neck out attributing it to any particular groups or other individual cyclists. -- zk |
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"Zoot Katz" wrote in message
... How 'bout the guy who sped up to pass me four car-lengths before a 4-way stop. Then he cut to the right. I figure he's going to turn. He's braking and I am too because I'm right behind him now. Okay, he's stopping, I'm dribbling along. Clear sight lines. No approaching traffic anywhere. Okay, he's still stopped and watching me in the mirror. I'm on him and doing a track stand. His backup lights come on. I dab. I'm looking right at the guy in his mirror and figuring out how I'm gonna ditch the bike and climb onto his trunk lid. He puts it into drive and proceeds normally. WTF was that? I'm still trying to nail down examples to support this popular backlash myth before I'll even stick my neck out attributing it to any particular groups or other individual cyclists. What you just described sounds like the kind of backlash a crazy person might use to get back at a CM rider. Perhaps he recognized you from your last traffic jam.... -Buck |
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Buck wrote: "Zoot Katz" wrote in message ... How 'bout the guy who sped up to pass me four car-lengths before a 4-way stop. Then he cut to the right. I figure he's going to turn. He's braking and I am too because I'm right behind him now. Okay, he's stopping, I'm dribbling along. Clear sight lines. No approaching traffic anywhere. Okay, he's still stopped and watching me in the mirror. I'm on him and doing a track stand. His backup lights come on. I dab. I'm looking right at the guy in his mirror and figuring out how I'm gonna ditch the bike and climb onto his trunk lid. He puts it into drive and proceeds normally. WTF was that? I'm still trying to nail down examples to support this popular backlash myth before I'll even stick my neck out attributing it to any particular groups or other individual cyclists. What you just described sounds like the kind of backlash a crazy person might use to get back at a CM rider. Perhaps he recognized you from your last traffic jam.... -Buck He couldna recognized him thru his dino suit! |
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Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks
Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:36:21 GMT,
, "Buck" j u n k m a i l @ g a l a x y c o r p . c o m wrote: I'm still trying to nail down examples to support this popular backlash myth before I'll even stick my neck out attributing it to any particular groups or other individual cyclists. What you just described sounds like the kind of backlash a crazy person might use to get back at a CM rider. Perhaps he recognized you from your last traffic jam.... Oh goodie, I'm glad it's that simply, though imaginatively, resolved. But why are you so ready to excuse the jerk by pleading his sanity or painting him as some righteous avenger? And tell me how exactly is a "CM rider" is supposed to look? -- zk |
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And tell me how exactly is a "CM rider" is supposed to look?
Stylish, man, stylish. -- _______________________ALL AMIGA IN MY MIND_______________________ ------------------"Buddy Holly, the Texas Elvis"------------------ in.edu__________ |
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Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:16:58 -0400, ,
"Eric S. Sande" wrote: And tell me how exactly is a "CM rider" is supposed to look? Stylish, man, stylish. Yeah, that was probably the problem. I might have looked too much like a cop in my yellow jacket, black mutt, socks and shorts. Or he may have been reacting to the "CARS SUCK" sticker. In that case, all the stop sign running cyclists, regardless of how they're dressed for whatever disease ride or racing fantasy they're 'training' for, are exonerated. I just dismissed him as some wannabe traffic-vigilante type by dramatically expectorating on the road in his general direction. -- zk |
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I just dismissed him as some wannabe traffic-vigilante type by
dramatically expectorating on the road in his general direction. Well, that's as may be, but you understand that I'm always trying to raise your consciousness in the universal road use direction. I just can't believe there's an urban road cyclist out there who believes CM is a good thing. I think you hate cars too much, think of them as road furniture. -- _______________________ALL AMIGA IN MY MIND_______________________ ------------------"Buddy Holly, the Texas Elvis"------------------ in.edu__________ |
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"Eric S. Sande" writes: I just can't believe there's an urban road cyclist out there who believes CM is a good thing. There's no such thing as bad publicity ;-) cheers, Tom -- -- Powered by FreeBSD Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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"Baka Dasai" wrote in message
This is termed "corking", and is done to ensure the mass doesn't get broken up. If this offends your sense of vehicular cycling, think of the mass as a single vehicle that requires a longer-than-usual traffic light cycle to get through an intersection. Call it what you want, but it is illegal and shows the world how CMers think theat the laws don't apply to them. If you want to do this kind of thing, then do it legally - go get a parade permit and have the intersections blocked with barricades. Oh yeah, I bet you can't get a parade permit for rush hour on a Friday. Perhaps there is a reason for that, no? The CMers are a bunch of hypocrites. They want to show that they are part of traffic, yet they block traffic. They want to call it a rolling party until the law gets involved and then they become "protestors." They flaunt their ability to break the laws then whine when there are repercussions. They claim they are making a difference, yet can't comprehend that there might be a backlash against what they do. Which is it? They lay claim to any positive feeback yet deny all negative feedback. These folks need to decide who they are, what they stand for, how far they are really willing to go to make their point, and then take responsibility for their actions, whether the results are good or bad. -Buck |
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"Zoot Katz" wrote in message
... "Buck" j u n k m a i l @ g a l a x y c o r p . c o m wrote: I'm still trying to nail down examples to support this popular backlash myth before I'll even stick my neck out attributing it to any particular groups or other individual cyclists. What you just described sounds like the kind of backlash a crazy person might use to get back at a CM rider. Perhaps he recognized you from your last traffic jam.... Oh goodie, I'm glad it's that simply, though imaginatively, resolved. But why are you so ready to excuse the jerk by pleading his sanity or painting him as some righteous avenger? And tell me how exactly is a "CM rider" is supposed to look? Well, you got what you were looking for, didn't you? Let's quote you again, "I'm still trying to nail down examples to support this popular backlash myth...." If you weren't fishing for someone to respond that this is a backlash against CM, then what were you doing? Who excused him for anything? Your point of view is once again coloring what you read. You gave an example of bad behavior. It was in the context of a discussion about negative repercussions from CM. You even suggested that this might be an example which supports the backlash "myth." So when someone finally tells you that it could be, you put on your suit of indignation and say that by confirming your suspicions we are 1) excusing his actions, 2) suggesting that his actions are an act of riteousness, 3) pigenholing all CM riders into some sort of recognizable "look." So, you had an encounter with a moron in a truck. As you present the story, you did nothing wrong and I believe you. Something had to motivate his actions. You are a participant in CM and you have a recognizable bicycle. You have stated before that you go out of your way to make sure people see the most recognizable element, a "cars suck" sticker mounted prominently on the fender. The moron had ample opportunity to observe said sticker as he passed you. Thus the conclusion that perhaps he did recognize YOU from something YOU did. Or he could just be a moron in a truck who thinks it's fun to harrass cyclists. If you talk to the folks that work in an emergency room, they will tell you that things just get crazier during the full moon. Perhaps the case load is different, but statistically, they are no more busy during the full moon than other days of the month. As cyclists we interact with autos on a daily basis. Perhaps there is no proof that CM causes a backlash (and it would be difficult to prove anyway), but it has been observed, as has been posted here several times, that traffic reacts differently (and not in a positive way) after a CM ride. -Buck |
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