published helmet research - not troll

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:37:51 -0400, Mitch Haley
wrote:

I read in my local paper (The Lansing State Journal) that riding without
a helmet makes you 14 times more likely to get killed.

Assuming that's true, what does that matter if the odds of being
killed are extremely small.?

JT

"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote...

Assuming that's true, what does that matter if the odds of being
killed are extremely small.?

I have a hard time believing you don't wear a helmet, John Forrest.

Jim "academically speaking" Flom

Tim McNamara writes:

(Bill Z.) writes:

You should note Krygowski's tactics.

Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.

Liar.

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"Just zis Guy, you know?" writes:

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 06:09:37 GMT, (Bill Z.)
wrote in message :

He posts a link to Randy's site for "balance" but immediately
disparages it.

No need - Randy does his own auto-disparaging.


Randy is no more biased than Avery (who did the one Frank liked.)
But note the assymetrical treatment in Frank's post.

Bill

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(Bill Z.) writes:

Tim McNamara writes:

(Bill Z.) writes:

You should note Krygowski's tactics.

Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.

Liar.

Read your own post.

Tim McNamara writes:

(Bill Z.) writes:

Tim McNamara writes:

(Bill Z.) writes:

You should note Krygowski's tactics.

Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.

Liar.

Read your own post.

I know damn well what I posted and you are lying.


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"Bill Z." wrote in message
...
Frank Krygowski writes:
Another source is the Vehicular Cyclist site, at
http://www.magma.ca/~ocbc/ with it's "Helmet FAQ." There are lots
of citations listed there, too.

This site (at least, the so-called "Helmet FAQ") was created by a rabid
anti-helmet person who would spew continued personal abuse at anyone
who disagreed with him in the slightest. You should note Krygowski's
tactics. He posts a link to Randy's site for "balance" but immediately
disparages it.

Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point
you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute",
www.bhsi.org This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to
make it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time
without a helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute
supports carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age
groups."

Randy's site is not "rabid," even if you don't agree with everything
he says (or anything he says, for that matter.)

Sorry, but your opinion has no more weight than Frank's and at least Frank
is willing to discuss matters. Randy is not.

"Bill Z." wrote in message
...
"Just zis Guy, you know?" writes:

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 06:09:37 GMT, (Bill Z.)
wrote in message :

He posts a link to Randy's site for "balance" but immediately
disparages it.

No need - Randy does his own auto-disparaging.

Randy is no more biased than Avery (who did the one Frank liked.)
But note the assymetrical treatment in Frank's post.

Zauman, you haven't changed in 12 years. Randy's site is even set up so that
you can't find the anti-helmet information but he puts it there in hard to
find locations so that he can say that it's really there. Avery doesn't like
helmet laws and is up front about it.

"Jim Flom" wrote in message
news:hlrAc.94$K53.91@edtnps89...
"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote...

Assuming that's true, what does that matter if the odds of being
killed are extremely small.?

I have a hard time believing you don't wear a helmet, John Forrest.

Jim "academically speaking" Flom

Yeah but after he read about Lance's health problem he's been sitting on it.

"Tom Kunich" writes:

"Bill Z." wrote in message
...


Randy's site is not "rabid," even if you don't agree with everything
he says (or anything he says, for that matter.)

Sorry, but your opinion has no more weight than Frank's and at least Frank
is willing to discuss matters. Randy is not.

Randy has no duty to participate in usenet discussions.

Bill

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