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Old December 19th 08, 03:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Every professional writer knows at least one fool who's written some
little monograph and who feels that entitles him to give patronizing
advice to professionals.

On Dec 18, 1:36 am, wrote:
[Jute] writes endless ramblings in huge paragraphs
that defy readers to begin reading... which most don't.

Jobst Brandt


Jobst Brand has written one monograph. It had to be published by his
employer, presumably because no real publisher wanted it, among other
reasons because the perfectly even-length paragraphs marching
mindlessly towards the horizon on rusted railroad tracks, separated by
linespaces (!), would drive readers to suicide.

Andre Jute has lost count of the number of books he has written, but
forty-odd is close enough. They were published by the world's leading
publishers, in a dozen or so languages, in over 300 editions, with
commensurate sales. Among them are a handful of textbooks for other
writers from which chapters are also anthologized in writers' annuals.
Also in Andre Jute's output are several books about typography and
graphic design.

Yet Jobst Brandt feels qualified to give Andre Jute stylistic advice.
Earlier Brandt gave Andre Jute unsolicited book design advice...

The dellcious irony of all this is that Brandt doesn't know there is
an irony he Brandt actually believes he knows about style and
design.

Dr Johnson was right: there is no fool like a man who has written a
single monograph.

Andre Jute
Zero free advice here, Brandt; if you want to learn to do better, buy
a book or join the library


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Old December 19th 08, 04:06 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Dec 18, 8:50 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Every professional writer knows at least one fool who's written some
little monograph and who feels that entitles him to give patronizing
advice to professionals.

On Dec 18, 1:36 am, wrote:

[Jute] writes endless ramblings in huge paragraphs
that defy readers to begin reading... which most don't.


Jobst Brandt


Jobst Brand has written one monograph. It had to be published by his
employer, presumably because no real publisher wanted it, among other
reasons because the perfectly even-length paragraphs marching
mindlessly towards the horizon on rusted railroad tracks, separated by
linespaces (!), would drive readers to suicide.

Andre Jute has lost count of the number of books he has written, but
forty-odd is close enough. They were published by the world's leading
publishers, in a dozen or so languages, in over 300 editions, with
commensurate sales. Among them are a handful of textbooks for other
writers from which chapters are also anthologized in writers' annuals.
Also in Andre Jute's output are several books about typography and
graphic design.

Yet Jobst Brandt feels qualified to give Andre Jute stylistic advice.
Earlier Brandt gave Andre Jute unsolicited book design advice...

The dellcious irony of all this is that Brandt doesn't know there is
an irony he Brandt actually believes he knows about style and
design.

Dr Johnson was right: there is no fool like a man who has written a
single monograph.

Andre Jute
Zero free advice here, Brandt; if you want to learn to do better, buy
a book or join the library


Pay it no mind, Andre. It is all a part of Brandt's megalomania. In
his mind, he truly is Jobst the Great and Mighty. He knows everything
there is to know about everything there is - just ask him! ;-)

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Old December 19th 08, 07:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:50:55 -0800, Andre Jute wrote:

Every professional writer knows at least one fool who's written some
little monograph and who feels that entitles him to give patronizing
advice to professionals.

On Dec 18, 1:36 am, wrote:
[Jute] writes endless ramblings in huge paragraphs that defy readers to
begin reading... which most don't.

Jobst Brandt


Jobst Brand has written one monograph. It had to be published by his
employer, presumably because no real publisher wanted it, among other
reasons because the perfectly even-length paragraphs marching mindlessly
towards the horizon on rusted railroad tracks, separated by linespaces
(!), would drive readers to suicide.

Andre Jute has lost count of the number of books he has written, but
forty-odd is close enough. They were published by the world's leading
publishers, in a dozen or so languages, in over 300 editions, with
commensurate sales. Among them are a handful of textbooks for other
writers from which chapters are also anthologized in writers' annuals.
Also in Andre Jute's output are several books about typography and
graphic design.

Yet Jobst Brandt feels qualified to give Andre Jute stylistic advice.
Earlier Brandt gave Andre Jute unsolicited book design advice...

The dellcious irony of all this is that Brandt doesn't know there is an
irony he Brandt actually believes he knows about style and design.

Dr Johnson was right: there is no fool like a man who has written a
single monograph.

Andre Jute
Zero free advice here, Brandt; if you want to learn to do better, buy a
book or join the library



brandt never buys books, reads them or belongs to a library. this much is
obvious from any of his wild untutored "theories". of these, i have many
favorites, but tonight i feel like "bicycles are gyroscopically
stabilized". it has a certain presumptive recklessness that seems to suit
the flavor of his most recent emissions.


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Old December 19th 08, 07:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Mike Jacoubowsky
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"Andre Jute" wrote in message
...
Every professional writer knows at least one fool who's written some
little monograph and who feels that entitles him to give patronizing
advice to professionals.

On Dec 18, 1:36 am, wrote:
[Jute] writes endless ramblings in huge paragraphs
that defy readers to begin reading... which most don't.

Jobst Brandt


Jobst Brand has written one monograph. It had to be published by his
employer, presumably because no real publisher wanted it, among other
reasons because the perfectly even-length paragraphs marching
mindlessly towards the horizon on rusted railroad tracks, separated by
linespaces (!), would drive readers to suicide.


Both of you are guilty of writing beautiful prose as well as utter
nonsense. The nonsense comes when you're writing *at* someone, and the
beauty when you're freely describing your experiences doing something
you enjoy. But, the good stuff disappears each time someone feels the
need to make sure they got in the last score before the game ends. A
game that won't end, because the players will never actually communicate
with, only at, each other.

It's a waste of talent.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


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Old December 19th 08, 09:21 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Dec 18, 10:38*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote:
A game that won't end, because the players will never actually communicate
with, only at, each other.

It's a waste of talent.

--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com


Well played sir. Well played.

Chris
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Old December 19th 08, 03:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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"Andre Jute" wrote in message
...
Every professional writer knows at least one fool who's written some
little monograph and who feels that entitles him to give patronizing
advice to professionals.

On Dec 18, 1:36 am, wrote:
[Jute] writes endless ramblings in huge paragraphs
that defy readers to begin reading... which most don't.

Jobst Brandt


Jobst Brand has written one monograph. It had to be published by his
employer, presumably because no real publisher wanted it, among other
reasons because the perfectly even-length paragraphs marching
mindlessly towards the horizon on rusted railroad tracks, separated by
linespaces (!), would drive readers to suicide.

Andre Jute has lost count of the number of books he has written, but
forty-odd is close enough. They were published by the world's leading
publishers, in a dozen or so languages, in over 300 editions, with
commensurate sales. Among them are a handful of textbooks for other
writers from which chapters are also anthologized in writers' annuals.
Also in Andre Jute's output are several books about typography and
graphic design.

Yet Jobst Brandt feels qualified to give Andre Jute stylistic advice.
Earlier Brandt gave Andre Jute unsolicited book design advice...

The dellcious irony of all this is that Brandt doesn't know there is
an irony he Brandt actually believes he knows about style and
design.

Dr Johnson was right: there is no fool like a man who has written a
single monograph.

Andre Jute
Zero free advice here, Brandt; if you want to learn to do better, buy
a book or join the library



There are lots of living authors with impressive bibliographies. Take Len
Deighton as just one example. He has published well over thirty works of fiction
and non fiction in multiple editions and foreign translations. He's also a fine
illustrator and an excellent cook who has published a series of cook books and a
weekly cookery cartoon strip that he drew himself. His fiction ranges from
espionage yarns to wartime drama and comic novels. They feature developed
characters who don't all speak with the same voice. His non-fiction includes
works of history widely acclaimed for the meticulous research and cogently
argued conclusions.
He's still with us at the age of nearly eighty, still writing and his new work
is still appearing.

Oddly enough, his personal amusements don't include making a flaming asshole of
himself on Usenet. Come to think of it, neither does any other prolific
contemporary author. Why is that, Andre?

PH
"Thems that can, do. Thems that can't, teach"
(various attributions)

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Old December 19th 08, 04:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Dec 19, 6:38*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message

...

Every professional writer knows at least one fool who's written some
little monograph and who feels that entitles him to give patronizing
advice to professionals.


On Dec 18, 1:36 am, wrote:
[Jute] writes endless ramblings in huge paragraphs
that defy readers to begin reading... which most don't.


Jobst Brandt


Jobst Brand has written one monograph. It had to be published by his
employer, presumably because no real publisher wanted it, among other
reasons because the perfectly even-length paragraphs marching
mindlessly towards the horizon on rusted railroad tracks, separated by
linespaces (!), would drive readers to suicide.


Both of you are guilty of writing beautiful prose as well as utter
nonsense. The nonsense comes when you're writing *at* someone, and the
beauty when you're freely describing your experiences doing something
you enjoy. But, the good stuff disappears each time someone feels the
need to make sure they got in the last score before the game ends. A
game that won't end, because the players will never actually communicate
with, only at, each other.


There are no zero-sum games around me; I do polemics for a living.
Someone will be burned here, and it won't be me. If you can, keep
Brandt out of my face. This is important to him, not to me; a week
after he crashes and burns I'll have forgotten his name.

It's a waste of talent.


Nah. Dictating a little note to my transcriber for RBT doesn't even
interrupt the work my hands are typing (remarks about varying
paragraph lengths to one of my protege whose book I'm editing!). At
the same time I watch a movie ("Absence of Malice" with Paul Newman,
excellent) and listen to a Bach Cantata ("Num komm, der heiden
Heiland" BWV 61, Ton Koopmsn`) with the electrostat on my other ear;
I'm also discussing what I shall cook tonight with my wife (chestnut
mushrooms and bacon, somehow) and my toes are stroking my cat while I
do press exercises for the small of my back against the lumbar support
of my chair (of my own design and earning nice royalties, thank you
very much). No wasted talent, no wasted motion.

Unless Brandt is a polymath too, he's the only one wasting time
slinging mud at me.

--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com


Blessed be the peacemaker. Pity about Brandt insisting so hard on
being a bully. He probably knows stuff about bikes that I might like
to know. But he just isn't worth the continual aggravation be puts
out.

Andre Jute
Sauvitor in modo, fortiter in res
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Old December 19th 08, 04:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Dec 19, 2:18*pm, "Peter Howard"
wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message

...



Every professional writer knows at least one fool who's written some
little monograph and who feels that entitles him to give patronizing
advice to professionals.


On Dec 18, 1:36 am, wrote:
[Jute] writes endless ramblings in huge paragraphs
that defy readers to begin reading... which most don't.


Jobst Brandt


Jobst Brand has written one monograph. It had to be published by his
employer, presumably because no real publisher wanted it, among other
reasons because the perfectly even-length paragraphs marching
mindlessly towards the horizon on rusted railroad tracks, separated by
linespaces (!), would drive readers to suicide.


Andre Jute has lost count of the number of books he has written, but
forty-odd is close enough. They were published by the world's leading
publishers, in a dozen or so languages, in over 300 editions, with
commensurate sales. Among them are a handful of textbooks for other
writers from which chapters are also anthologized in writers' annuals.
Also in Andre Jute's output are several books about typography and
graphic design.


Yet Jobst Brandt feels qualified to give Andre Jute stylistic advice.
Earlier Brandt gave Andre Jute unsolicited book design advice...


The dellcious irony of all this is that Brandt doesn't know there is
an irony he Brandt actually believes he knows about style and
design.


Dr Johnson was right: there is no fool like a man who has written a
single monograph.


Andre Jute
Zero free advice here, Brandt; if you want to learn to do better, buy
a book or join the library


There are lots of living authors with impressive bibliographies. Take Len
Deighton as just one example. He has published well over thirty works of fiction
and non fiction in multiple editions and foreign translations. He's also a fine
illustrator and an excellent cook who has published a series of cook books and a
weekly cookery cartoon strip that he drew himself. His fiction ranges from
espionage yarns to wartime drama and comic novels. They feature developed
characters who don't all speak with the same voice. His non-fiction includes
works of history widely acclaimed for the meticulous research and cogently
argued conclusions.
He's still with us at the age of nearly eighty, still writing and his new work
is still appearing.

Oddly enough, his personal amusements don't include making a flaming asshole of
himself on Usenet. Come to think of it, neither does any other prolific
contemporary author. Why is that, Andre?

PH
"Thems that can, do. Thems that can't, teach"
(various attributions)


You've been following me around for years, Howie. What ever made you
think I care **** what you think? However, since you have spent so
much time and effort trying to attract my attention, let me give you a
tip. Learn something useful to me about my hobbies that I don't yet
know and I'll pay a lot of attention to you.

You should address your remarks above to Jobst Brandt; he might care
about what you think (I doubt it, but he might pretend).

Andre Jute
Cyclist. Audiophile.


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Old December 19th 08, 05:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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In article
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Andre Jute wrote:

Andre Jute has lost count of the number of books he has written, but
forty-odd is close enough. They were published by the world's leading
publishers, in a dozen or so languages, in over 300 editions, with
commensurate sales. Among them are a handful of textbooks for other
writers from which chapters are also anthologized in writers'
annuals. Also in Andre Jute's output are several books about
typography and graphic design.


All of them appear to sell for pennies on the dollar as remainders...
Andre Jute is certainly fond of himself. I wonder if he has a lot of
mirrors in his house.
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Old December 19th 08, 06:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:13:47 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:


All of them appear to sell for pennies on the dollar as remainders...
Andre Jute is certainly fond of himself. I wonder if he has a lot of
mirrors in his house.


Mirrors tell the truth. The conclusion is obvious...
 




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