GPS for Android

I'm trying to find a GPS application for Android that will use stored
maps and display the position and possibly the route taken.
Similar to Google Maps but using stored maps.

Yes, I know that Google Maps can store maps but ideally the stored
maps would be, say 10,000 Sq. Km. in area and so far I find that
impossible to accomplish with the Google Maps' save function.

Another function that would be necessary is that major items, road
names, etc. have to be printed in English as is done with Google Maps

Any help greatly appreciated.
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Cheers,
John B.

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&t...1138&bih =629

http://geography.about.com/od/usmaps/a/states-area.htm

where are you headed ?
try Garmin at Walmart

On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 03:52:08 -0700 (PDT), datakoll
wrote:


https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&t...1138&bih =629

http://geography.about.com/od/usmaps/a/states-area.htm

where are you headed ?
try Garmin at Walmart


The idea was not to need an additional electronic marvel.
--
Cheers,
John B.

pip pip alllllastern....yaaahaaaa rowers on the right yawl better shape up or its overboard...

itsa toy costs $100

rann ive a coupla tourers headed over the pass the upper Madison River, touring with a phone GPS.

I aske dthe rider without the phone where the GPS was n he said the cell guy handles space and time that he wasn't uptight about it but the cell guy was checking his progress.

I have one furmuh kayak with marine charts. Other yakkers go oooooohhh ahhhhh wooooww...

It hooks into a 1705E/9400 Dell on doghouse where it sits now using NROUTE a topo visual of where you are..

then to get over to X its Streets and Trips saving mega gas and energy.

Did a cross LA loop on a supply run with S&T....amazing....god bless the audiovox TV side view mirror merges from the right at 50-60 mph like from under abridge(s)

The marine VHF is a gas....I can speak with the Chinses freighter tellum I's stationary. They say 'haaaso kayak thank you....'


the guy without the cell phone was dubious yet tolerant.


cell towers are not universal.

On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:26:17 -0700 (PDT), datakoll
wrote:

pip pip alllllastern....yaaahaaaa rowers on the right yawl better shape up or its overboard...

itsa toy costs $100

rann ive a coupla tourers headed over the pass the upper Madison River, touring with a phone GPS.

I aske dthe rider without the phone where the GPS was n he said the cell guy handles space and time that he wasn't uptight about it but the cell guy was checking his progress.

I have one furmuh kayak with marine charts. Other yakkers go oooooohhh ahhhhh wooooww...

It hooks into a 1705E/9400 Dell on doghouse where it sits now using NROUTE a topo visual of where you are..

Dog house on a Kayak?

then to get over to X its Streets and Trips saving mega gas and energy.

Mega gas savings in a kayak???


Did a cross LA loop on a supply run with S&T....amazing....god bless the audiovox TV side view mirror merges from the right at 50-60 mph like from under abridge(s)

The marine VHF is a gas....I can speak with the Chinses freighter tellum I's stationary. They say 'haaaso kayak thank you....'


"Ah so" is Japanese, not Chinese. Chinese would be more like "Haw,
haw".


the guy without the cell phone was dubious yet tolerant.


cell towers are not universal.
--
Cheers,
John B.

the cell phone people emailed.....my phone stays OFF....

YOU ARE NOW ELIGIBLE FOR A NEW PHONE AT DISCOUNT...

and I EMAILED back the Casio waterproof was as new and no new phone...


and the cell phone people said....DOESN'T HE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH NEW PHONES

and I said no I doahn...

so eventually THEY sent out a road warrior int the vast outback pn the shore of Lake Mittry to demo Mifi....causing an immediate sprin to the Verizon Bowteak to therein sign up.

so the doghouse laptop exceeds all BEEP BEEP BEEP expectations. INCROYABLE !!!

when ura connected to the global satellite system, ura covered.

CONSIDER ! when is the GPS most effective ? Off course the situation may not be ura situation but its OUT THERE.

goo tells me YOU now have the op app for an Einstein Brain App op in the event you have time on the subway...

maybe I'll stop n look at the next slab user I see on bench for an EINSTEIN BRAIN APP..

Hi there, down for the winter ? say is that the EINSTEIN BRAIN APP ?

On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

I'm trying to find a GPS application for Android that will use stored
maps and display the position and possibly the route taken.
Similar to Google Maps but using stored maps.

Yes, I know that Google Maps can store maps but ideally the stored
maps would be, say 10,000 Sq. Km. in area and so far I find that
impossible to accomplish with the Google Maps' save function.

Google goes through some effort to protect its maps. Instead, use a
different map database such as OpenStreetMap.

I'm still using my iPhone 3G with MotionX application for bicycle
navigation and have not bothered finding a suitable Android app. I've
been using a hiking application called MyTrails:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.frogsparks.mytrails&hl=en
which uses OpenStreetMap and OpenCycleMap. It supports offline maps,
but I haven't bothered to try it as its cached maps are good enough
for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openstreetmap
http://www.openstreetmap.org
http://www.opencyclemap.org
http://code.google.com/p/gmapcatcher/

Storing 10,000 sq-km of maps is reasonable. (California is about
400,000 sq-km area). 10,000 sq-km is a box 100km on a side, which
would give you approximately a 50km ride in any direction. I'm not
sure that this would be enough coverage. However, if you're going to
zoom down to the level where you can see individual buildings, the
storage requirements might become exessive. If your Android device is
crammed full of movies and photos, you may run out of storage space.

Another function that would be necessary is that major items, road
names, etc. have to be printed in English as is done with Google Maps

Any help greatly appreciated.

Hint: Running the GPS in an Android phone is a great way to run the
battery down in a short time. My Droid X has a removable battery
making carrying a pocket full of batteries practical. However, with
todays non-removable battery Android phones, you will probably need an
external 5V power source. Something like these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160884985262
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160877789144

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 10:02:14 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:32:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

I'm trying to find a GPS application for Android that will use stored
maps and display the position and possibly the route taken.
Similar to Google Maps but using stored maps.

Yes, I know that Google Maps can store maps but ideally the stored
maps would be, say 10,000 Sq. Km. in area and so far I find that
impossible to accomplish with the Google Maps' save function.

Google goes through some effort to protect its maps. Instead, use a
different map database such as OpenStreetMap.

I'm still using my iPhone 3G with MotionX application for bicycle
navigation and have not bothered finding a suitable Android app. I've
been using a hiking application called MyTrails:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.frogsparks.mytrails&hl=en
which uses OpenStreetMap and OpenCycleMap. It supports offline maps,
but I haven't bothered to try it as its cached maps are good enough
for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openstreetmap
http://www.openstreetmap.org
http://www.opencyclemap.org
http://code.google.com/p/gmapcatcher/

I tried out a couple of GPS apps that used OpenStreetMap that had
street names in the local language which is not helpful.

Storing 10,000 sq-km of maps is reasonable. (California is about
400,000 sq-km area). 10,000 sq-km is a box 100km on a side, which
would give you approximately a 50km ride in any direction. I'm not
sure that this would be enough coverage. However, if you're going to
zoom down to the level where you can see individual buildings, the
storage requirements might become exessive. If your Android device is
crammed full of movies and photos, you may run out of storage space.


The 10,000 sq.Km. is probably sufficient. As a general statement I
don't need GPS in rural areas, there's only one way to get there, but
I do in the cities. If you are on highway 102 between two cities you
probably won't get lost, but if you are in a municipal area where
streets change their name three times before you get to the river it
can be a problem.

Memory isn't really a problem, at least not yet :-)

Another function that would be necessary is that major items, road
names, etc. have to be printed in English as is done with Google Maps

Any help greatly appreciated.

Hint: Running the GPS in an Android phone is a great way to run the
battery down in a short time. My Droid X has a removable battery
making carrying a pocket full of batteries practical. However, with
todays non-removable battery Android phones, you will probably need an
external 5V power source. Something like these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160884985262
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160877789144

Yes, I know that GPS uses batteries, which does become a problem on an
8 hour ride but if I have the on board maps there is no real necessity
to having the GPS on all the time. My main reason for having it is
when I get lost.

I've got one of those "power Packs" thingies. It works well.
--
Cheers,
John B.

On 10/01/2012 08:05 PM, John B. wrote:

Yes, I know that GPS uses batteries, which does become a problem on an
8 hour ride but if I have the on board maps there is no real necessity
to having the GPS on all the time. My main reason for having it is
when I get lost.

I've got one of those "power Packs" thingies. It works well.

MotionX, as someone mentioned would probably work well for you then. I
use it for pretty much the same thing as you describe. You can load a
route at home over wifi to save downloads. You can turn it on at any
point and it will find your relative to the route. I'm not sure what
the maximum distance is but I've used it to plot a driving route from
Montreal to Halifax which is about 1500km.

To track a route as you ride it, you may try Strava. It doesn't seem to
use up too much battery as long as you have the screen off. I've tried
using it as GPS and while it sort of works it only shows where you are
relative to the saved route. It doesn't direct you.

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 08:06:08 -0400, Duane Hébert
wrote:

On 10/01/2012 08:05 PM, John B. wrote:

Yes, I know that GPS uses batteries, which does become a problem on an
8 hour ride but if I have the on board maps there is no real necessity
to having the GPS on all the time. My main reason for having it is
when I get lost.

I've got one of those "power Packs" thingies. It works well.

MotionX, as someone mentioned would probably work well for you then. I
use it for pretty much the same thing as you describe. You can load a
route at home over wifi to save downloads. You can turn it on at any
point and it will find your relative to the route. I'm not sure what
the maximum distance is but I've used it to plot a driving route from
Montreal to Halifax which is about 1500km.

I don't remember anyone mentioning it but I took a look at it. It
appears to be a iPhone sort of thing, at least it mentions syncing
with iTunes. There may be an android version but the web site seemed
real strong on using it with twitter and facebook, none of which I
care much about.

To track a route as you ride it, you may try Strava. It doesn't seem to
use up too much battery as long as you have the screen off. I've tried
using it as GPS and while it sort of works it only shows where you are
relative to the saved route. It doesn't direct you.

Tracking a route is not really a large consideration. If it does it,
fine. If not and the other capabilities are useful then I'll do
without.

So far I've pretty well settled on MapDroid as it has a good selection
of world charts, although they are in the local language, but I can
probably get by. "Go down that road until you come to the second big
road and turn left" :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.