GPS for Android

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:12:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

I did try them and the Thai maps use the Thai language, which I can
read just well enough to find a toilet. Other then that they are just
what I wanted. For SEA you can download the maps by countries and the
storage isn't excessive.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Thailand
http://thaimap.osm-tools.org/?zoom=7&lat=16.38023&lon=101.26164&layers=B00
Looks like English to me.

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Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:26:17 -0700 (PDT), datakoll
wrote:

pip pip alllllastern....yaaahaaaa rowers on the right yawl better shape up or its overboard...

itsa toy costs $100

rann ive a coupla tourers headed over the pass the upper Madison River, touring with a phone GPS.

I aske dthe rider without the phone where the GPS was n he said the cell guy handles space and time that he wasn't uptight about it but the cell guy was checking his progress.

I have one furmuh kayak with marine charts. Other yakkers go oooooohhh ahhhhh wooooww...

It hooks into a 1705E/9400 Dell on doghouse where it sits now using NROUTE a topo visual of where you are..

Dog house on a Kayak?

then to get over to X its Streets and Trips saving mega gas and energy.

Mega gas savings in a kayak???


Did a cross LA loop on a supply run with S&T....amazing....god bless the audiovox TV side view mirror merges from the right at 50-60 mph like from under abridge(s)

The marine VHF is a gas....I can speak with the Chinses freighter tellum I's stationary. They say 'haaaso kayak thank you....'


"Ah so" is Japanese, not Chinese. Chinese would be more like "Haw,
haw".


the guy without the cell phone was dubious yet tolerant.


cell towers are not universal.
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Cheers,
John B.

On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:34:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:12:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

I did try them and the Thai maps use the Thai language, which I can
read just well enough to find a toilet. Other then that they are just
what I wanted. For SEA you can download the maps by countries and the
storage isn't excessive.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Thailand

I go to this site and click on "Browse Thailand Map" and it is all
Thai. There is a link titled "multilingual names" which leads me to
your second reference, below.

http://thaimap.osm-tools.org/?zoom=7&lat=16.38023&lon=101.26164&layers=B00

Ah Ha! This one is in English. But I see no way to use it on a hand
phone. Did I miss something? The instructions I find are all about
linking it to a server. did you see a reference to downloading the map
for use on a GPS hand phone?

Looks like English to me.

--
Cheers,
John B.

On 2/10/2012 3:53 AM, SMS wrote:
On 10/1/2012 3:32 AM, John B. wrote:

I'm trying to find a GPS application for Android that will use stored
maps and display the position and possibly the route taken.
Similar to Google Maps but using stored maps.

Yes, I know that Google Maps can store maps but ideally the stored
maps would be, say 10,000 Sq. Km. in area and so far I find that
impossible to accomplish with the Google Maps' save function.

Another function that would be necessary is that major items, road
names, etc. have to be printed in English as is done with Google Maps

Any help greatly appreciated.

I use CoPilot. Not free. I think it's $18 for the U.S. now. I have it on
a tablet and phone. It's gotten much better over the past year.

There is an application using external maps - Ozi Explorer $25 its in
Beta, but see http://www.oziexplorer3.com/android/...r_android.html
a great application - you can construct and calibrate your own maps
using OSM of OSMCycle - it has a great set of features. Runs well on my
HTC Wildfire.

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BobC

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:44:56 +1000, BobC
wrote:

On 2/10/2012 3:53 AM, SMS wrote:
On 10/1/2012 3:32 AM, John B. wrote:

I'm trying to find a GPS application for Android that will use stored
maps and display the position and possibly the route taken.
Similar to Google Maps but using stored maps.

Yes, I know that Google Maps can store maps but ideally the stored
maps would be, say 10,000 Sq. Km. in area and so far I find that
impossible to accomplish with the Google Maps' save function.

Another function that would be necessary is that major items, road
names, etc. have to be printed in English as is done with Google Maps

Any help greatly appreciated.

I use CoPilot. Not free. I think it's $18 for the U.S. now. I have it on
a tablet and phone. It's gotten much better over the past year.

There is an application using external maps - Ozi Explorer $25 its in
Beta, but see http://www.oziexplorer3.com/android/...r_android.html
a great application - you can construct and calibrate your own maps
using OSM of OSMCycle - it has a great set of features. Runs well on my
HTC Wildfire.

I tried Ozzyexplorer some years ago with the idea of using it on a
boat but the lack of pre-made maps made it, I thought, less then ideal
although had I been in the U.S. with its free charts from the
government I would probably have been an avid user.

I've pretty well settled on MapDroid as it uses free maps and there is
a full worldwide library of them. The main problem is that maps are in
the native language however highway numbers are in English so it is
usable, although English names would be preferable.

--
Cheers,
John B.

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:39:00 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:34:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:12:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

I did try them and the Thai maps use the Thai language, which I can
read just well enough to find a toilet. Other then that they are just
what I wanted. For SEA you can download the maps by countries and the
storage isn't excessive.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Thailand

I go to this site and click on "Browse Thailand Map" and it is all
Thai. There is a link titled "multilingual names" which leads me to
your second reference, below.

http://thaimap.osm-tools.org/?zoom=7&lat=16.38023&lon=101.26164&layers=B00

Ah Ha! This one is in English. But I see no way to use it on a hand
phone. Did I miss something? The instructions I find are all about
linking it to a server. did you see a reference to downloading the map
for use on a GPS hand phone?

Looks like English to me.

No export tool. It's 4AM, hot (80F), so I might as well do something
useful.

The bilingual stuff might be in here, somewhere, maybe...
http://downloads.osm-tools.org
So, I download:
http://downloads.osm-tools.org/thailand-20111121.7z (28MB)
with the hope that the file is bilingual. This expands (using 7-zip)
to about 500MB as an OSM file.

Next, I download what looks like an editor/viewer from:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Desktop
I went for the Windoze installer, but the JAR file should work on
anything that runs Java. Loading a 500MB OSM file took about 15
minutes to load. Yawn.

Click on the magnifying glass, + or - to zoom, or select a box. It
takes a few minutes but it eventually works. It's all in English with
no Thai maps or details. What this appears to be is an English
overlay of edits to the original OSM map showing English names,
bicycle routes, GPS tracks, and other additions. Without the original
map data, this is NOT going to work.

Enough for one night. Maybe ask the Thai map editor for help, ask in
an OSM forum, or find someone with more of a clue. I give up.


--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 10/01/2012 08:05 PM, John B. wrote:

Yes, I know that GPS uses batteries, which does become a problem on an
8 hour ride but if I have the on board maps there is no real necessity
to having the GPS on all the time. My main reason for having it is
when I get lost.

I've got one of those "power Packs" thingies. It works well.

MotionX, as someone mentioned would probably work well for you then. I
use it for pretty much the same thing as you describe. You can load a
route at home over wifi to save downloads. You can turn it on at any
point and it will find your relative to the route. I'm not sure what
the maximum distance is but I've used it to plot a driving route from
Montreal to Halifax which is about 1500km.

To track a route as you ride it, you may try Strava. It doesn't seem to
use up too much battery as long as you have the screen off. I've tried
using it as GPS and while it sort of works it only shows where you are
relative to the saved route. It doesn't direct you.

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 04:59:56 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:39:00 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:34:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:12:42 +0700, John B.
wrote:

I did try them and the Thai maps use the Thai language, which I can
read just well enough to find a toilet. Other then that they are just
what I wanted. For SEA you can download the maps by countries and the
storage isn't excessive.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Thailand

I go to this site and click on "Browse Thailand Map" and it is all
Thai. There is a link titled "multilingual names" which leads me to
your second reference, below.

http://thaimap.osm-tools.org/?zoom=7&lat=16.38023&lon=101.26164&layers=B00

Ah Ha! This one is in English. But I see no way to use it on a hand
phone. Did I miss something? The instructions I find are all about
linking it to a server. did you see a reference to downloading the map
for use on a GPS hand phone?

Looks like English to me.

No export tool. It's 4AM, hot (80F), so I might as well do something
useful.

The bilingual stuff might be in here, somewhere, maybe...
http://downloads.osm-tools.org
So, I download:
http://downloads.osm-tools.org/thailand-20111121.7z (28MB)
with the hope that the file is bilingual. This expands (using 7-zip)
to about 500MB as an OSM file.

Next, I download what looks like an editor/viewer from:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Desktop
I went for the Windoze installer, but the JAR file should work on
anything that runs Java. Loading a 500MB OSM file took about 15
minutes to load. Yawn.

Click on the magnifying glass, + or - to zoom, or select a box. It
takes a few minutes but it eventually works. It's all in English with
no Thai maps or details. What this appears to be is an English
overlay of edits to the original OSM map showing English names,
bicycle routes, GPS tracks, and other additions. Without the original
map data, this is NOT going to work.

Enough for one night. Maybe ask the Thai map editor for help, ask in
an OSM forum, or find someone with more of a clue. I give up.

This High Tech is frustrating :-)

I finally installed MapDroid and downloaded Thai, Malaysia and
Singapore maps which will likely be all I'll need. I can understand
enough Malaysian to read their map and Singapore, I think, will be in
English so I'm all set, except for Thailand :-( However, generally, in
Bangkok, I will be riding set routes and pretty much will know where
I'm going so I can likely get by knowing where I want to go and
discovering where I am at. At least that is the theory :-)

Then too, the Google Maps will be on the phone for at least a few
weeks, I'm told, so I can (hopefully) fall back on that if all else
fails.

--
Cheers,
John B.

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 08:06:08 -0400, Duane Hébert
wrote:

On 10/01/2012 08:05 PM, John B. wrote:

Yes, I know that GPS uses batteries, which does become a problem on an
8 hour ride but if I have the on board maps there is no real necessity
to having the GPS on all the time. My main reason for having it is
when I get lost.

I've got one of those "power Packs" thingies. It works well.

MotionX, as someone mentioned would probably work well for you then. I
use it for pretty much the same thing as you describe. You can load a
route at home over wifi to save downloads. You can turn it on at any
point and it will find your relative to the route. I'm not sure what
the maximum distance is but I've used it to plot a driving route from
Montreal to Halifax which is about 1500km.

I don't remember anyone mentioning it but I took a look at it. It
appears to be a iPhone sort of thing, at least it mentions syncing
with iTunes. There may be an android version but the web site seemed
real strong on using it with twitter and facebook, none of which I
care much about.

To track a route as you ride it, you may try Strava. It doesn't seem to
use up too much battery as long as you have the screen off. I've tried
using it as GPS and while it sort of works it only shows where you are
relative to the saved route. It doesn't direct you.

Tracking a route is not really a large consideration. If it does it,
fine. If not and the other capabilities are useful then I'll do
without.

So far I've pretty well settled on MapDroid as it has a good selection
of world charts, although they are in the local language, but I can
probably get by. "Go down that road until you come to the second big
road and turn left" :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.

the cell phone people emailed.....my phone stays OFF....

YOU ARE NOW ELIGIBLE FOR A NEW PHONE AT DISCOUNT...

and I EMAILED back the Casio waterproof was as new and no new phone...


and the cell phone people said....DOESN'T HE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH NEW PHONES

and I said no I doahn...

so eventually THEY sent out a road warrior int the vast outback pn the shore of Lake Mittry to demo Mifi....causing an immediate sprin to the Verizon Bowteak to therein sign up.

so the doghouse laptop exceeds all BEEP BEEP BEEP expectations. INCROYABLE !!!

when ura connected to the global satellite system, ura covered.

CONSIDER ! when is the GPS most effective ? Off course the situation may not be ura situation but its OUT THERE.

goo tells me YOU now have the op app for an Einstein Brain App op in the event you have time on the subway...

maybe I'll stop n look at the next slab user I see on bench for an EINSTEIN BRAIN APP..

Hi there, down for the winter ? say is that the EINSTEIN BRAIN APP ?