divorce

In article ,
Boyd Speerschneider wrote:

Jeff Potter wrote in
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Columbines'R'Us!

(much snipped blather here; go easy on the coffee, JP!)


Nice logic there Jeff:

X's parents get divorced - X goes on a killing spree.

Think about it also for one second.
How many school shootings are there each year?
Now, how many children have divorced parents?
You do the math.

- Boyd S
knows plenty of former latch key kids with divorced parents who are now
pefectly adjusted, normal adults.

Many of whom seem to manage to have successful relationships/marriages, too.

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tanx,
Howard

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remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

"Andy Mai" wrote in message
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In article ,
Art Harris wrote:
"curt" wrote:
I already
know of a couple people that I know that are having kids and not
getting
together at all.

Immaculate conception?

Just FYI, this is a misuse of the words "immaculate conception". Read the
fist
two paragraphs of:

Mary was full of something and it wasn't grace.

Guess Lance's wife isn't such a devote Catholic after all, eh?

Dashii

"Howard Kveck" wrote in message
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In article ,
Boyd Speerschneider wrote:

Jeff Potter wrote in
:

Columbines'R'Us!

(much snipped blather here; go easy on the coffee, JP!)


Nice logic there Jeff:

X's parents get divorced - X goes on a killing spree.

Think about it also for one second.
How many school shootings are there each year?
Now, how many children have divorced parents?
You do the math.

- Boyd S
knows plenty of former latch key kids with divorced parents who are now
pefectly adjusted, normal adults.

Just wondering, how would you know if someone was a perfectly adjusted
normal adult or a sociopathic killer?

Dashii

I believe the parents of the Columbine kids were married. If you are
getting information from that wacko Michael Moore, get another source.

If you want a real connection check out the medications the kids are on.
There have been reports that a lot fo the kids who go on shooting sprees are
on Ritalin or other psychoactive drugs. Drugging kids is a real problem in
the US. Get a bored kid in school who acts out and the teachers want to
sedate them (Ritalin) so they will behave; this is easier that finding ways
to challenge kids.

When I was young, I was bored in school and acted out a lot. Thankfully the
medications were not around and a teacher who had taught one of my siblings
got me tested. Found out I was reading about 4 grade levels up and math
skills were about the same. I was put into other classes with "gifted" kids
and flourished--no more behavior problems since I was being challenged.


"Jeff Potter" wrote in message
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But are their economies booming like ours (was)?

Maybe it's how our divorces are combined with lifestyles based on
religion,
multilevel marketing, SUVs, tv, videogames, pro-sports, huge commutes,
overtime, and casinos that give us that special something extra.

How often are killer-kids parents divorced? How often are
valedictorian-kids
parents married? ---No relation, I know.

trg wrote:

Nah, must be something in the water in the good ol' US of A. Other
industrialized countries have even more never married and divorced
families
and their kids don't go "Columbining".

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oyvey1948 wrote:

"Jeff Jones" jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com wrote in message . be...

It's official: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=...p03/sep04news2

Now y'all can start arguing about how it will affect the 2004 Tour.

My opinion, which is worth far less than €0.02: I think it could
actually help Lance by taking some of the stress off him.

cheers,
Jeff


Being that he didn't have much of a positive paternal influence, one
wonders how it may affect his future relationship with his kids. Since
Armstrong has a reputation for being less than tolerant to riders he
doesn't like, his comment that "Neither of us wants to get in the
situation where when we drop off the kids, we can't look at each
other." is an interesting one.

"We're truly committed to maintaining a good relationship, but
not a marriage."? Why should he take that commitment any more
seriously than his wedding vows?

Divorce tends to run in families, so to speak. I rather wondered a
couple years ago whether he and Kik would stay together very long.

The other interesting comment, by her, was in reference to his
celebrity. Which could mean many things, particularly that she prefers
to keep out of the public eye, while he can't. Then there's the groupies...

"Sam" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I believe the parents of the Columbine kids were married. If you are
getting information from that wacko Michael Moore, get another source.

If you want a real connection check out the medications the kids are on.
There have been reports that a lot fo the kids who go on shooting sprees
are
on Ritalin or other psychoactive drugs.

Ritalin is not a psychoactive drug, Mr gifted child.

Drugging kids is a real problem in
the US. Get a bored kid in school who acts out and the teachers want to
sedate them (Ritalin) so they will behave; this is easier that finding
ways
to challenge kids.

Sure just let them do anything that they want to, kill the family, shoot up
the school, cool!


When I was young, I was bored in school and acted out a lot.

Needed your ass kicked.

Thankfully the
medications were not around and a teacher who had taught one of my
siblings
got me tested. Found out I was reading about 4 grade levels up and math
skills were about the same. I was put into other classes with "gifted"
kids
and flourished--no more behavior problems since I was being challenged.

And now you are a member of the Special Olympics team, congradulations.

Dashii

"Richard Adams" wrote in message
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oyvey1948 wrote:

"Jeff Jones" jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com wrote in message
. be...

It's official: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=...p03/sep04news2

Now y'all can start arguing about how it will affect the 2004 Tour.

My opinion, which is worth far less than €0.02: I think it could
actually help Lance by taking some of the stress off him.

cheers,
Jeff


Being that he didn't have much of a positive paternal influence, one
wonders how it may affect his future relationship with his kids. Since
Armstrong has a reputation for being less than tolerant to riders he
doesn't like, his comment that "Neither of us wants to get in the
situation where when we drop off the kids, we can't look at each
other." is an interesting one.

"We're truly committed to maintaining a good relationship, but
not a marriage."? Why should he take that commitment any more
seriously than his wedding vows?

Divorce tends to run in families, so to speak. I rather wondered a
couple years ago whether he and Kik would stay together very long.

Jeez, maybe we can get you on the Montel Williams show, they're looking for
another mind reader.


The other interesting comment, by her, was in reference to his
celebrity. Which could mean many things, particularly that she prefers
to keep out of the public eye, while he can't. Then there's the
groupies...

Yeah you got to watch out for those groupies, she may be screwing their
brains out.

Dashii

Dashi Toshii wrote:

Ritalin is not a psychoactive drug, Mr gifted child.

Wow. Methylphenidate is not psychoactive? It changes CNS levels of
neuromodulators by increasing Dopamine levels, and it's not psychoactive?
What do you call psychoactive, then?

Didier

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"Sam" wrote in message thlink.net...
I believe the parents of the Columbine kids were married. If you are
getting information from that wacko Michael Moore, get another source.

If you want a real connection check out the medications the kids are on.
There have been reports that a lot fo the kids who go on shooting sprees are
on Ritalin or other psychoactive drugs. Drugging kids is a real problem in
the US. Get a bored kid in school who acts out and the teachers want to
sedate them (Ritalin) so they will behave; this is easier that finding ways
to challenge kids.

When I was young, I was bored in school and acted out a lot. Thankfully the
medications were not around and a teacher who had taught one of my siblings
got me tested. Found out I was reading about 4 grade levels up and math
skills were about the same. I was put into other classes with "gifted" kids
and flourished--no more behavior problems since I was being challenged.


"Jeff Potter" wrote in message
.. .
But are their economies booming like ours (was)?

Maybe it's how our divorces are combined with lifestyles based on
religion,
multilevel marketing, SUVs, tv, videogames, pro-sports, huge commutes,
overtime, and casinos that give us that special something extra.

How often are killer-kids parents divorced? How often are
valedictorian-kids
parents married? ---No relation, I know.

trg wrote:

Nah, must be something in the water in the good ol' US of A. Other
industrialized countries have even more never married and divorced
families
and their kids don't go "Columbining".

--

Jeff Potter
****
*Out Your Backdoor * http://www.outyourbackdoor.com
for modern folkways and culture revival...
...offering "small world" views on bikes, bows, books, movies...
...new books featuring: XC ski culture, a Gulf Coast thriller
folding bicycles ... with radical novels coming up!
...original downloadable music ... and articles galore!
plus national "Off the Beaten Path" travel forums! HOLY SMOKES!



First off let me go on a rant. I hate how people post on message
boards with out doing even a simple validity check. Even as someone
who has written research papers on Ritalin I double checked my
statements before writing what will follow. 30 seconds with you friend
google will stop you from looking like a jackass. Both this poster and
the poster who replied were wrong and could have figured this out with
the aforementioned 30 seconds of research.


Ritalin is a stimulant (not a sedative). It is also a psychoactive.
These two statements combine to support Sam thesis. However he does
little to back it up Ritalin being an amphetamine-like substance
(Note: some of the newer ADHD meds are actually amphetamines) has many
of the same common side effects as other amphetamines, such as
insomnia, nervernous, blood pressure and pulse changes. Obviously more
rare but well documented Ritalin has also been known to cause Paranioa
and Psycotic episodes, not shokingly, just like amphetamines. Further
here are some other little factiods:

-Ritalin helps everyone focus ADHD or not.
-Cocaine works well for this too. In fact lots of ADHD adults use it
to "self medicate"
-While there are short term benifits to Ritalin use, i.e. teachers
report the kids are less anoying. Long term benefits are debatbly
pretty much nil as Ritalin doesn't treat the actual symtoms of ADHD
that make success dificult (disorginization, a reluctance to complete
tasks, depression etc.) for ADHD kids, it simply makes a quieter more
managable failure.
-Ritalin being an a fairly potent stimulant with decent sized "time
released" doasages, essentially gives ADHD kids a a free "party" in a
bottle if they can beat the time release mechanism (simply being
grinding it up and snorting it).
- There are some reports that long term ritalin use actually might
change the experession of the gene c-fos. Which could actually make
symptoms worse.

I guess that should be enough...

"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in
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"Nick Burns" wrote in message
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Credibility is an issue here.





Dumbass -

When people get divorced, suddenly they're not credible?

WRT relationships? Yes.

DSMF