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Time to bring back Zebras
Councils cut pedestrian crossing waiting times to help with social distancing https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...al-distancing/ Zebra crossings minimise delay for everyone. |
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Time to bring back Zebras
On 26/05/2020 15:45, Mike Collins wrote:
Councils cut pedestrian crossing waiting times to help with social distancing https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...al-distancing/ Zebra crossings minimise delay for everyone. Many of us have always thought so. It is hard to see the advantages of pelicon crossings (except maybe in a few very crowded city centre streets). It is certainly very difficult to see any advantages in them in suburban locations. There must be at least one ulterior motive for their installation over the past four decades or so. And as we all know, even if some won't admit it, it's not as though cyclists take any notice of either sort of pedestrian priority on either sort of crossing. |
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On Tuesday, 26 May 2020 18:34:59 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 26/05/2020 15:45, Mike Collins wrote: Councils cut pedestrian crossing waiting times to help with social distancing https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...al-distancing/ Zebra crossings minimise delay for everyone. Many of us have always thought so. It is hard to see the advantages of pelicon crossings (except maybe in a few very crowded city centre streets). It is certainly very difficult to see any advantages in them in suburban locations. There must be at least one ulterior motive for their installation over the past four decades or so. And as we all know, even if some won't admit it, it's not as though cyclists take any notice of either sort of pedestrian priority on either sort of crossing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-54OpEwE0w |
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Time to bring back Zebras
On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 3:45:25 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Councils cut pedestrian crossing waiting times to help with social distancing https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...al-distancing/ Zebra crossings minimise delay for everyone. They should do what they do in many European countries and have countdown timers that tell pedestrians how long at green they have left, though in many Balkan countries, drivers treat such crossing with indifference and ignore zebras at will. Police turn a blind eye to the criminals in most cases. |
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Time to bring back Zebras
On 26/05/2020 15:45, Mike Collins wrote:
Councils cut pedestrian crossing waiting times to help with social distancing https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...al-distancing/ Zebra crossings minimise delay for everyone. The reason for traffic lights would have been that moronists had a pattern of not giving way on zebras. We also made a rule in 1934 that zebras have to have a flashing beacon (for what modern day purpose?) so instead of spending a few pounds for some paint and a sign (at places where people actually cross, as in civilised countries), they can only go where there is easy access to electricity. So I guess there isn't much difference in cost between the two. The big bugbear of light controlled crossings is that no matter how long it was since the previous change, there is an irritating delay after pressing the button. Even in the days when traffic lights were controlled by mechanical logic it would have been a trivial issue to get right. |
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Time to bring back Zebras
TMS320 wrote:
The big bugbear of light controlled crossings is that no matter how long it was since the previous change, there is an irritating delay after pressing the button. ....and that irritating delay can sometimes be so long that the who ever who pushed the button gets an opportunity to cross the road before any light change occurs (or they push the button unnecessarily even though finding the road clear to cross anyway). Consequently there is no pedestrian waiting to cross when the lights do signal all traffic to stop - sometimes it's even like approaching a ghostly apparition: a crossing with lights indicating pedestrians can cross but there's no one in sight who could possibly wish to do so. Even in the days when traffic lights were controlled by mechanical logic it would have been a trivial issue to get right. |
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Time to bring back Zebras
On 27/05/2020 09:28, TMS320 wrote:
On 26/05/2020 15:45, Mike Collins wrote: Councils cut pedestrian crossing waiting times to help with social distancing https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...al-distancing/ Zebra crossings minimise delay for everyone. The reason for traffic lights would have been that moronists had a pattern of not giving way on zebras. They still display the same pattern of behaviour, failing to stop their bicycles at pedestrian crossings (of any sort) and often screaming obscenities at pedestrians with the temerity to try to cross when and where they have priority. But thanks for admitting it. We also made a rule in 1934 that zebras have to have a flashing beacon (for what modern day purpose?) so instead of spending a few pounds for some paint and a sign (at places where people actually cross, as in civilised countries), they can only go where there is easy access to electricity. So I guess there isn't much difference in cost between the two. The big bugbear of light controlled crossings is that no matter how long it was since the previous change, there is an irritating delay after pressing the button. Even in the days when traffic lights were controlled by mechanical logic it would have been a trivial issue to get right. |
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Time to bring back Zebras
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:28:29 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 26/05/2020 15:45, Mike Collins wrote: Councils cut pedestrian crossing waiting times to help with social distancing https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...al-distancing/ Zebra crossings minimise delay for everyone. The reason for traffic lights would have been that moronists had a pattern of not giving way on zebras. I often walk out onto zebras and encounter drivers who just play a game of chicken with you, often with horns blaring at having the gall to impede their speeding cages. |
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Time to bring back Zebras
Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:28:29 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote: On 26/05/2020 15:45, Mike Collins wrote: Councils cut pedestrian crossing waiting times to help with social distancing https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...al-distancing/ Zebra crossings minimise delay for everyone. The reason for traffic lights would have been that moronists had a pattern of not giving way on zebras. I often walk out onto zebras and encounter drivers who just play a game of chicken with you, often with horns blaring at having the gall to impede their speeding cages. ********. |
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Time to bring back Zebras
On Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:11:36 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 27/05/2020 09:28, TMS320 wrote: On 26/05/2020 15:45, Mike Collins wrote: Councils cut pedestrian crossing waiting times to help with social distancing https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...al-distancing/ Zebra crossings minimise delay for everyone. The reason for traffic lights would have been that moronists had a pattern of not giving way on zebras. They still display the same pattern of behaviour, failing to stop their bicycles at pedestrian crossings (of any sort) and often screaming obscenities at pedestrians with the temerity to try to cross when and where they have priority. But thanks for admitting it. What a sad response. |
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