Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:26:02 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Nov 20, 8:26*pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:54:20 +0000, Bertie Wooster
wrote:





On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:21:17 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 20, 1:26 pm, Simon Weaseltemper
wrote:
On 20/11/2011 12:56, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 02:50:03 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

Apparently, he has already been reported about his trolling.

Which appears to have stopped following comments on this group,
which demonstrates that unlike JMS, medjob and cheerless, to name
but three, the responsible party can at least take a hint.

Those three do not take hints, they need the law acting on them.
Which is fine, but it takes time. Often several years from outset
but it is worth it in the end.

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Simon
For personal replies, please use my reply-to address.

Which will make the celebratory pints all the more well deserved.
Don't forget to come along to the party when it is announced.

I'll be there.

How will you know where "there" is?

With cheerless it will be Simon's call. With Nuxx I will send the
invites. With JMS I reckon Simon and I will probably go halves.

Guy
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Letter in the post as we say :-)


So diddums *does* read what I post after all :-)

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where there are people of my age who have abused their bodies and suffered all sorts of ailments"

Simon Mason

On Nov 21, 1:30*pm, dr6092 wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:01*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

dr6092 wrote:
Sigh. It is likely that being in traffic he would have been doing
15-20mph to begin with. He would have braked to a much lower speed
initially but as the car was also braking it did not get past him.
Since he was given no room, he was unable to steer a trajectory that
could both move him left and shift his balance to his left. At a low
speed, he had no options left.

Strange, when Simon tells us how he can so easily outbrake anything else on
the road.

What he says is true. So long as there is freedom to steer to maintain
balance.

Even if the car was braking it would still be best for the cyclist to keep
on braking and keep his hands on the steering controls.

It would be best if you gained some practical cycling experience
before attempting to give lessons.

When Cheerless has clocked up over 80000 cycling miles during which I
have not hit one single object, be it a car or pedestrian I would
maybe listen.
Until then, he stays in the killfile.

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Simon Mason

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:30:02 -0800 (PST), dr6092 wrote:

On Nov 20, 10:01*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
dr6092 wrote:
Sigh. It is likely that being in traffic he would have been doing
15-20mph to begin with. He would have braked to a much lower speed
initially but as the car was also braking it did not get past him.
Since he was given no room, he was unable to steer a trajectory that
could both move him left and shift his balance to his left. At a low
speed, he had no options left.

Strange, when Simon tells us how he can so easily outbrake anything else on
the road.

What he says is true. So long as there is freedom to steer to maintain
balance.

So you are saying that when Mason is travelling along at 22mph on his pushbike
he can brake and stop more quickly that any motor vehicle on the road?

I do not think so.

On Nov 21, 1:30*pm, dr6092 wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:01*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

dr6092 wrote:
Sigh. It is likely that being in traffic he would have been doing
15-20mph to begin with. He would have braked to a much lower speed
initially but as the car was also braking it did not get past him.
Since he was given no room, he was unable to steer a trajectory that
could both move him left and shift his balance to his left. At a low
speed, he had no options left.

Strange, when Simon tells us how he can so easily outbrake anything else on
the road.

What he says is true. So long as there is freedom to steer to maintain
balance.


That is right as borne out by the inferior braking distances of cars
as described in the Highway Code.
40 feet for a car at 20 mph is pathetic.

--
Simon Mason

On Nov 21, 1:57*pm, Judith wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:30:02 -0800 (PST), dr6092 wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:01*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
dr6092 wrote:
Sigh. It is likely that being in traffic he would have been doing
15-20mph to begin with. He would have braked to a much lower speed
initially but as the car was also braking it did not get past him.
Since he was given no room, he was unable to steer a trajectory that
could both move him left and shift his balance to his left. At a low
speed, he had no options left.

Strange, when Simon tells us how he can so easily outbrake anything else on
the road.

What he says is true. So long as there is freedom to steer to maintain
balance.

So you are saying that when Mason is *travelling along at 22mph on his pushbike
he can brake and stop more quickly that any motor vehicle on the road?

I do not think so.

You won't. On your illegal Dutch bike.

On Nov 21, 2:02*pm, dr6092 wrote:
On Nov 21, 1:57*pm, Judith wrote:





On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:30:02 -0800 (PST), dr6092 wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:01*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
dr6092 wrote:
Sigh. It is likely that being in traffic he would have been doing
15-20mph to begin with. He would have braked to a much lower speed
initially but as the car was also braking it did not get past him.
Since he was given no room, he was unable to steer a trajectory that
could both move him left and shift his balance to his left. At a low
speed, he had no options left.

Strange, when Simon tells us how he can so easily outbrake anything else on
the road.

What he says is true. So long as there is freedom to steer to maintain
balance.

So you are saying that when Mason is *travelling along at 22mph on his pushbike
he can brake and stop more quickly that any motor vehicle on the road?

I do not think so.

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Has it been crushed yet for persistent law breaking?
Letter in the post.

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Simon Mason

On 21/11/2011 14:00, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 21, 1:30 pm, wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:01 am, wrote:

dr6092 wrote:
Sigh. It is likely that being in traffic he would have been doing
15-20mph to begin with. He would have braked to a much lower speed
initially but as the car was also braking it did not get past him.
Since he was given no room, he was unable to steer a trajectory that
could both move him left and shift his balance to his left. At a low
speed, he had no options left.

Strange, when Simon tells us how he can so easily outbrake anything else on
the road.

What he says is true. So long as there is freedom to steer to maintain
balance.


That is right as borne out by the inferior braking distances of cars
as described in the Highway Code.
40 feet for a car at 20 mph is pathetic.

--
Simon Mason

I often wonder how quickly a car would come to a stop, if the drivers
head was positioned 12 inches behind the bumpers!
Fred

On 21/11/2011 14:00, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 21, 1:30 pm, wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:01 am, wrote:

dr6092 wrote:
Sigh. It is likely that being in traffic he would have been doing
15-20mph to begin with. He would have braked to a much lower speed
initially but as the car was also braking it did not get past him.
Since he was given no room, he was unable to steer a trajectory that
could both move him left and shift his balance to his left. At a low
speed, he had no options left.

Strange, when Simon tells us how he can so easily outbrake anything else on
the road.

What he says is true. So long as there is freedom to steer to maintain
balance.


That is right as borne out by the inferior braking distances of cars
as described in the Highway Code

....which is notoriously out of date and inaccurate on that topic.

40 feet for a car at 20 mph is pathetic.

It might be if it were correct.

On Nov 21, 2:25*pm, Fred2 wrote:
On 21/11/2011 14:00, Simon Mason wrote:





On Nov 21, 1:30 pm, *wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:01 am, *wrote:

dr6092 wrote:
Sigh. It is likely that being in traffic he would have been doing
15-20mph to begin with. He would have braked to a much lower speed
initially but as the car was also braking it did not get past him.
Since he was given no room, he was unable to steer a trajectory that
could both move him left and shift his balance to his left. At a low
speed, he had no options left.

Strange, when Simon tells us how he can so easily outbrake anything else on
the road.

What he says is true. So long as there is freedom to steer to maintain
balance.

That is right as borne out by the inferior braking distances of cars
as described in the Highway Code.
40 feet for a car at 20 mph is pathetic.

--
Simon Mason

I often wonder how quickly a car would come to a stop, if the drivers
head was positioned 12 inches behind the bumpers!
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Or the old spike in the centre of the steering wheel gag.

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Simon Mason

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 06:02:10 -0800 (PST), dr6092 wrote:

On Nov 21, 1:57*pm, Judith wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:30:02 -0800 (PST), dr6092 wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:01*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
dr6092 wrote:
Sigh. It is likely that being in traffic he would have been doing
15-20mph to begin with. He would have braked to a much lower speed
initially but as the car was also braking it did not get past him.
Since he was given no room, he was unable to steer a trajectory that
could both move him left and shift his balance to his left. At a low
speed, he had no options left.

Strange, when Simon tells us how he can so easily outbrake anything else on
the road.

What he says is true. So long as there is freedom to steer to maintain
balance.

So you are saying that when Mason is *travelling along at 22mph on his pushbike
he can brake and stop more quickly that any motor vehicle on the road?

I do not think so.

You won't. On your illegal Dutch bike.


No - and I won't lie and say that I can either.

Good to see you didn't actually answer the question though.