Hazard Perception Test???

Anyone got any advice on how to pass the hazard perception part of the
driving test? My son uses the official CD for practice, but has failed
the test again. This time the bloke at the test centre said my son
should write to complain as he could see no problem with his test. Last
time he failed, I don't think he got any points.

There is clearly something different between the official CD and the
test, as he does fine in practice. I think he may be clicking too
quickly (although being a twit might be a contributing factor).
Nevertheless, people are obviously passing this thing, and he isn't.
Any pointers would be gratefully received!!

On 03/02/2012 18:14, Mr. Benn wrote:
Anyone got any advice on how to pass the hazard perception part of the
driving test? My son uses the official CD for practice, but has failed
the test again. This time the bloke at the test centre said my son
should write to complain as he could see no problem with his test. Last
time he failed, I don't think he got any points.

There is clearly something different between the official CD and the
test, as he does fine in practice. I think he may be clicking too
quickly (although being a twit might be a contributing factor).
Nevertheless, people are obviously passing this thing, and he isn't.
Any pointers would be gratefully received!!

I fail on the CD practice one as well for clicking too often.
Approaching parked cars - click - potential idiot opening door
kids walking on the pavement - click - no end of possibilities there
oncoming car - click
car parked on other side of road - click - might decide to pull away not
looking
approaching side-road - click
car pulling out and not stopping at the line - click - ah THAT's the one
they wanted us to get.

I'd probably fail the test too

On 03/02/2012 18:14, Mr. Benn wrote:
Anyone got any advice on how to pass the hazard perception part of the
driving test? My son uses the official CD for practice, but has failed
the test again. This time the bloke at the test centre said my son
should write to complain as he could see no problem with his test. Last
time he failed, I don't think he got any points.

There is clearly something different between the official CD and the
test, as he does fine in practice. I think he may be clicking too
quickly (although being a twit might be a contributing factor).
Nevertheless, people are obviously passing this thing, and he isn't.
Any pointers would be gratefully received!!

Will be watching this thread, I need to do my theory test soon!

--
David

Mr. Benn wrote:

Anyone got any advice on how to pass the hazard perception part of the
driving test? My son uses the official CD for practice, but has failed
the test again. This time the bloke at the test centre said my son
should write to complain as he could see no problem with his test.
Last time he failed, I don't think he got any points.

There is clearly something different between the official CD and the
test, as he does fine in practice. I think he may be clicking too
quickly (although being a twit might be a contributing factor).
Nevertheless, people are obviously passing this thing, and he isn't.
Any pointers would be gratefully received!!

I have heard that people who play online computer games tend to fail,
because they click too early. They have to deliberately slow their
reactions.

On 03/02/2012 18:14, Mr. Benn wrote:
Anyone got any advice on how to pass the hazard perception part of the
driving test? My son uses the official CD for practice, but has failed
the test again. This time the bloke at the test centre said my son
should write to complain as he could see no problem with his test. Last
time he failed, I don't think he got any points.

There is clearly something different between the official CD and the
test, as he does fine in practice. I think he may be clicking too
quickly (although being a twit might be a contributing factor).
Nevertheless, people are obviously passing this thing, and he isn't.
Any pointers would be gratefully received!!

Both my kids recently passed their theory tests first time with no
bother; but both struggled initially with the hazard test on the
practice CD. I think it was all about knowing when the system expects
you to 'click' - ie it's no use clicking as soon as you spot a toddler
waddling into the road 100 yards away, you have to delay, and then click
when its only 30 yards away (or whatever). Point was thought that once
they sussed the practice CD at home, the 'real' version in the test was
no different.

David

"Lobster" wrote in message
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On 03/02/2012 18:14, Mr. Benn wrote:
Anyone got any advice on how to pass the hazard perception part of the
driving test? My son uses the official CD for practice, but has failed
the test again. This time the bloke at the test centre said my son
should write to complain as he could see no problem with his test. Last
time he failed, I don't think he got any points.

There is clearly something different between the official CD and the
test, as he does fine in practice. I think he may be clicking too
quickly (although being a twit might be a contributing factor).
Nevertheless, people are obviously passing this thing, and he isn't.
Any pointers would be gratefully received!!

Both my kids recently passed their theory tests first time with no bother;
but both struggled initially with the hazard test on the practice CD. I
think it was all about knowing when the system expects you to 'click' - ie
it's no use clicking as soon as you spot a toddler waddling into the road
100 yards away, you have to delay, and then click when its only 30 yards
away (or whatever). Point was thought that once they sussed the practice
CD at home, the 'real' version in the test was no different.

David

I did mine in 2008 for the bike test. I've had a car license 30 years. I
used Driving Test Success
http://www.drivingtestsuccess.com/2012-product-range/

Failed miserably on the hazard perception at first but soon got the hang of
the clicking and got the real thing first time. Passed disc to my daughter
who passed first time.

Its excellent and only about £7 on eBay.

On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 21:01:45 -0000, "Syd" wrote:


"Lobster" wrote in message
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On 03/02/2012 18:14, Mr. Benn wrote:
Anyone got any advice on how to pass the hazard perception part of the
driving test? My son uses the official CD for practice, but has failed
the test again. This time the bloke at the test centre said my son
should write to complain as he could see no problem with his test. Last
time he failed, I don't think he got any points.

I did mine in 2008 for the bike test.

When I did my bike test, the "hazard perception test" just involved
not hitting the examiner when he jumped out in front of you.

--
Max Demian

On 03/02/2012 22:19, Max Demian wrote:
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 21:01:45 -0000, wrote:


wrote in message
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On 03/02/2012 18:14, Mr. Benn wrote:
Anyone got any advice on how to pass the hazard perception part of the
driving test? My son uses the official CD for practice, but has failed
the test again. This time the bloke at the test centre said my son
should write to complain as he could see no problem with his test. Last
time he failed, I don't think he got any points.

I did mine in 2008 for the bike test.

When I did my bike test, the "hazard perception test" just involved
not hitting the examiner when he jumped out in front of you.


When I did mine (in 1966 on a 1949 BSA 250 side-valve) the examiner
allowed me about 100 yards for my emergency stop. From 90 yards away, I
could just about see him signalling to me that it was OK to proceed.

On Feb 3, 6:14*pm, "Mr. Benn" wrote:
Anyone got any advice on how to pass the hazard perception part of the
driving test?

Best bet, spot the hazards early and react to them!



My son uses the official CD for practice, but has failed
the test again. This time the bloke at the test centre said my son
should write to complain as he could see no problem with his test. Last
time he failed, I don't think he got any points.

No points - that's quite worrying.



There is clearly something different between the official CD and the
test, as he does fine in practice.

You would expect there to be some difference. Possibly your son may
have learned to remember where the hazards are on the practice CD, but
is getting stung when presented with unfamiliar clips. Or perhaps he's
just nervous on the real test.



I think he may be clicking too
quickly (although being a twit might be a contributing factor).
Nevertheless, people are obviously passing this thing, and he isn't.
Any pointers would be gratefully received!!

Perhaps he is clicking too many times, or otherwise in ways that
violate the algorithm that detects cheating.

On Feb 3, 6:46*pm, Martin wrote:
On 03/02/2012 18:14, Mr. Benn wrote:

Anyone got any advice on how to pass the hazard perception part of the
driving test? My son uses the official CD for practice, but has failed
the test again. This time the bloke at the test centre said my son
should write to complain as he could see no problem with his test. Last
time he failed, I don't think he got any points.

There is clearly something different between the official CD and the
test, as he does fine in practice. I think he may be clicking too
quickly (although being a twit might be a contributing factor).
Nevertheless, people are obviously passing this thing, and he isn't.
Any pointers would be gratefully received!!

I fail on the CD practice one as well for clicking too often.
Approaching parked cars - click - potential idiot opening door
kids walking on the pavement - click - no end of possibilities there
oncoming car - click
car parked on other side of road - click - might decide to pull away not
looking
approaching side-road - click
car pulling out and not stopping at the line - click - ah THAT's the one
they wanted us to get.

I'd probably fail the test too

I think the idea was that you identify actual developing hazards that
would cause you to physically react, not just imaginary or potential
hazards that might cause you to react if they actually occur.
Obviously, the nature of the HPT is that the type of hazards which are
chosen, are of the kind that the reasonablly competent driver is
expected to react to and successfully avoid - there are many hazards
on the road, that no reasonably competent driver can be expected to
avoid when they occur, and where the onus is purely on others to avoid
creating those unavoidable collisions.

For example, when approaching parked cars you are entitled to assume
that no one will open the door into your path. You do not physically
react merely because you are making the approach to parked cars,
although you might well be psychologically primed to react if someone
does in fact fling open their door. So too with children walking
correctly along the pavement, or approaching and passing an apparently
empty side-road (in which, notionally, a car could still come speeding
along and t-bone you, but the reasonable driver does not, and cannot,
pass every side road as though that is actually about to happen).

The car pulling out at the line, however, is a hazard that is
happening, that you have to physically react to, and which (in the
circumstances of the HPT) you are expected to be able to avoid if you
react. That is therefore the correct hazard, and you will get maximum
points (I assume) for clicking when the reasonable driver would first
perceive that he was not about to stop and give way.