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Is there any good non-rechargeable headlights anymore?
On 5/10/2017 10:21 PM, Andy wrote:
On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 11:05:06 AM UTC-5, Doug Cimperman wrote: A couple of my old headlights died due to batteries accidentally being left in them long enough to leak. The old lights were Cateye HL-EL530s, that took 4 x AA batteries. http://www.cateye.com/en/products/detail/HL-EL530/ tho mine wasn't that one, mine was the previous-generation that had a rectangular beam due to a second focusing cone inside the main reflector. I cleaned them up a bit with some vinegar and water, but they're probably toast. The reflector surfaces look pretty gray. So I'm shopping around for ANY kind of headlights that take 4 x AA batteries, and there is none. The best I can find is one that takes 3 x AAA, but that doesn't put out anywhere near what the previous lights did. The best that Cateye offers now is the EL135, which is 3 LEDS and only 2 AA batteries. http://www.cateye.com/en/products/detail/HL-EL135/ I don't need a whole lot of light, I had two headlights just in case one failed. And I don't want anything with an external battery pack, even for free. Years back the rechargeables cost too much ($100+ just for the smallest systems). Now they're cheap enough, but they suck compared to the disposable-battery ones. At Nashbar, the Nashbar-brand Wedge headlight is 100 lumens, costs $20 and uses 3 AAA batteries. The run time is given as 15 hrs on high, 30 hours on low and 60 hours on flashing. Nashbar also sells the Cateye Volt 100, the lowest-end Volt model. It is USB rechargable and the output is given as 100 lumens... But the runtime is given as "2 to 30 hours depending on mode". Uhhh... no sale. I'm trying to spend money here and just not seeing a lot that's interesting. Plus--on the LWB recumbent, the lights have to be mounted upside-down. And the old Cateye lights were "waterproof", while almost all of these new ones are just "water resistant", and I'd bet, not nearly so if mounted upside down in the rain... So far the best candidate is the little 3-AAA flashlights with handlebar mounts. They're round beams but have a spot-flood focusing lens at least. Plus they all have high/low/flash modes now. You might want to ignore bicycle lights per se and be creative. :-) There are many flashlights that meet you light needs. One produces 1000 lumens. And they are way cheaper. All it takes to mount them are 2 adjustable clamps. Use NiMh batteries. I made a light system using a SLA battery that was as bright as a car headlight. Andy Well I did order a couple 'normal' flashlights with handlebar mounts. I just preferred a bicycle-specific light, because decent ones usually had a rectangular beam rather than a round one. The aversion I have to rechargeable things is that they're never charged when I need them to be. With things like a laptop or a tablet I can just hook them to the charger and keep using them (assuming I'm wherever the charger is) but you can't do that with bicycle lights. If a light has the *option* of rechargable batteries that's okay, but I don't want anything that is limited to using rechargeable batteries only. Also we note that the Cateye HL-EL530s that died were probably at least 8 years old, and maybe older. They probably weren't very bright compared to what modern lights/LEDs are now. And the reflectors looked rather gray anyway. The failure of most of the China lights is that they have poorly designed reflectors (like those used for incan bulbs). I do like the B&M lights, just because of the LED-specific reflector design. And the reflectors of the other two Cateyes aren't looking real good either. |
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Is there any good non-rechargeable headlights anymore?
Front end bike lights are removed after use n stored in container. Batt contacts lightly coated with dielectric grease.
If your use pattern is dayly then u need 2 units |
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Is there any good non-rechargeable headlights anymore?
On 5/11/2017 1:30 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 10 May 2017 23:02:09 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2017 22:55:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: Will this work for you? http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/misc/slides/k1009%20light.html https://internetkaufhaus24.de/Produkte/frontscheinwerfer-led-30-lux/6168332 https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fintern etkaufhaus24.de%2FProdukte%2Ffrontscheinwerfer-led-30-lux%2F6168332&sandbox=1 One mo https://www.amazon.de/Frontscheinwerfer-LED-LUX-FRONTSCHEINWERFER-40208/dp/B01J9NWJHU Really awful "enhanced" photo of the maker and model number text: http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/misc/slides/K1009%20light%20text.html I'll make a better photo tomorrow. I found the manufactory: http://www.monz-international.de/index.php/en/ Here's the light: http://www.monz-international.de/images/sortimente/fahrrad/technik/monz-technik-04.jpg the manual on the light set: http://www.monz-international.de/index.php/en/customer-support/downloads/category/22-bikes-and-parts?download=327:93146-22203-po30000081-fahrrad-lampenset-bikemate-de Now, all you need to do is find a distributor or dealer. There aren't any on German ebay this morning. http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=...hrrad&_sacat=0 He might check that again in a few days. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Is there any good non-rechargeable headlights anymore?
On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 8:11:33 AM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/11/2017 1:30 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2017 23:02:09 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2017 22:55:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: Will this work for you? http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/misc/slides/k1009%20light.html https://internetkaufhaus24.de/Produkte/frontscheinwerfer-led-30-lux/6168332 https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fintern etkaufhaus24.de%2FProdukte%2Ffrontscheinwerfer-led-30-lux%2F6168332&sandbox=1 One mo https://www.amazon.de/Frontscheinwerfer-LED-LUX-FRONTSCHEINWERFER-40208/dp/B01J9NWJHU Really awful "enhanced" photo of the maker and model number text: http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/misc/slides/K1009%20light%20text.html I'll make a better photo tomorrow. I found the manufactory: http://www.monz-international.de/index.php/en/ Here's the light: http://www.monz-international.de/images/sortimente/fahrrad/technik/monz-technik-04.jpg the manual on the light set: http://www.monz-international.de/index.php/en/customer-support/downloads/category/22-bikes-and-parts?download=327:93146-22203-po30000081-fahrrad-lampenset-bikemate-de Now, all you need to do is find a distributor or dealer. There aren't any on German ebay this morning. http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=...hrrad&_sacat=0 He might check that again in a few days. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 amazing how riders....and drivers but not truckers ..... can nickel n dime to see or not to see ..... |
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On 2017-05-10 19:53, sms wrote:
On 5/10/2017 9:44 AM, Joerg wrote: snip Quote "4 rechargeable Ni-MH batteries, each 2100 mAh, no memory effect. Charging time approx. 5 hours using provided charging unit. Power supply by 4 non-rechargeable AA batteries possible". For a lot of lights, the output is significantly less on primary cells. Alkaline batteries have high internal resistance and can't provide the current that NiMH AA batteries provide. For a light as expensive as the Ixon I sure hope the engineers have figured out how to design a proper switch-mode converter for constant LED current. Else they should be moved to the dog house for a while. However, alkaline don't last long for high light output. Just like with digital cameras where NiMH provides for more shots despite having lower capacity. There are some good 4AA flashlights that could double as a bicycle light but these are high-end lights and are expensive https://www.fenixlighting.com/product/ld41-fenix-flashlight/. There is this 3xAA bicycle specific light: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X6FXCLN Someone selling a NOS HL-EL530: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cateye-opticube-hl-el530-cycling-light-/172654249234 There's also the option of powering a light with an external battery pack made up of AA cells rather than Li-Ion cells. For example, http://www.herrmans.eu/start-english/products?familyId=2208 will run on a 6-12V pack. But again, alkaline batteries will leave something to be desired. I never saw the need to make a battery holder for AA. 18650 Li-Ion cells pack so much punch that four or eight of them provide enough hours even for a really bright 1000 lumen light. If I did longer treks I'd invest in a hub dynamo or a solar cell and build an MPPT converter. On the road bike the battery ride in the right pannier (but only until the next mod) and on the MTB in an ABS box that can take rock hits. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Is there any good non-rechargeable headlights anymore?
On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 5:44:56 PM UTC-7, Doug Cimperman wrote:
On 5/10/2017 7:12 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: ... I've done custom mounts for several different headlights, mostly because I almost always have handlebar bags mounted. Those interfere with most handlebar mounted lights . But I'm pretty content when fabricating a mechanical solution to such a problem. Welp, I ordered a couple of tactikewl flashlights and some mounts off Amazon for about $50 (for two of each). The flashlights are 18650 or 3xAA and come with the rechargeable stuff, but also have the 3xAA insert too. They are claimed as waterproof and have no USB charging ports, so they /should/ (might?) keep working in the rain. There is not a great amount of choice it seems. Apparently roughly 95% of all the flashlights listed on Amazon is one of maybe 6 different China models, just sold under different names and prices. And if you disregard the "all-rubber-band-mounts" and the "fake-Two-Fish-mounts" that don't hold, then there's only about four different kinds of handlebar-flashlight mounts--a couple of which were only big enough for the 3xAAA lights, and so were clearly too small for the flashlights I got. I can make mounts too but don't really wanna. I used these and there is a problem with them - the beam is too narrow. But they are so bright that God can see them in heaven. So I have a second light that is much less bright and has a wide beam. This one has a rather large battery that hangs off of the top tube. Now that I'm driving again I don't need a grocery bike so it is all sitting around. |
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On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 8:11:33 AM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote: On 5/11/2017 1:30 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2017, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2017, Jeff Liebermann wrote: Will this work for you? http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/misc/slides/k1009%20light.html https://internetkaufhaus24.de/Produkte/frontscheinwerfer-led-30-lux/6168332 https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fintern etkaufhaus24.de%2FProdukte%2Ffrontscheinwerfer-led-30-lux%2F6168332&sandbox=1 One mo https://www.amazon.de/Frontscheinwerfer-LED-LUX-FRONTSCHEINWERFER-40208/dp/B01J9NWJHU Really awful "enhanced" photo of the maker and model number text: http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/misc/slides/K1009%20light%20text.html I'll make a better photo tomorrow. I found the manufactory: http://www.monz-international.de/index.php/en/ Here's the light: http://www.monz-international.de/images/sortimente/fahrrad/technik/monz-technik-04.jpg the manual on the light set: http://www.monz-international.de/index.php/en/customer-support/downloads/category/22-bikes-and-parts?download=327:93146-22203-po30000081-fahrrad-lampenset-bikemate-de Now, all you need to do is find a distributor or dealer. There aren't any on German ebay this morning. http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=...hrrad&_sacat=0 He might check that again in a few days. Optimistically priced, differently branded, different K number, no LED details, but this one also resembles Jeff's "Star Q" StVZO sample lamp a lot: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Fahrradbeleuchtung-Set-50-Lux-LED-Scheinwerfer-Akku-Ladegerat-Rucklicht-/381853331980 (not recommended, especially not mounted upside down inverting the beam pattern, and allowing water to seep in through the usual "step-rails divided housing" construction) amazing how riders....and drivers but not truckers ..... can nickel n dime to see or not to see ..... The regular (Aldi/ Lidl/ ...) price for these kinds of sets, minus junk NiMH's and charger: http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?action=showDetail&id=55066 (not recommended either) |
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