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Steel frames and le Tour
On Jul 7, 12:22*pm, wrote:
Anyone know the last year a steel frame was used by a racing cyclist in the TdF? I wouldn't be surprised if someone was riding one in this year's Tour. Until I rode an S-Works Roubaix this year, I wasn't convinced that any carbon fiber bike would/could ride as nicely as a steel Lemond Sarthe I picked up on ebay, and I would gladly ride a hand-built custom steel frameset (from the right builder with the right tubeset) over any carbon fiber bike I'd ridden previously. Keep in mind, I'm not a weight-weenie, so a pound or so more frame weight means nothing to me. Comfort and durability, on the other hand... much more important. |
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Scott wrote:
On Jul 7, 12:22 pm, wrote: Anyone know the last year a steel frame was used by a racing cyclist in the TdF? I wouldn't be surprised if someone was riding one in this year's Tour. Until I rode an S-Works Roubaix this year, I wasn't convinced that any carbon fiber bike would/could ride as nicely as a steel Lemond Sarthe I picked up on ebay, and I would gladly ride a hand-built custom steel frameset (from the right builder with the right tubeset) over any carbon fiber bike I'd ridden previously. Keep in mind, I'm not a weight-weenie, so a pound or so more frame weight means nothing to me. Comfort and durability, on the other hand... much more important. You mean the yellow Tsunami with the yellow decals wasn't your favorite bike? Bret |
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT), Scott
wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if someone was riding one in this year's Tour. If you are talking about the Tour de France bike race, you might not be surprised, but you're still wrong. |
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On Jul 10, 8:29*am, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT), Scott wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if someone was riding one in this year's Tour. If you are talking about the Tour de France bike race, you might not be surprised, but you're still wrong. JT, how the hell do you know whether I'm wrong or not? Do you really know what every single rider is riding on every single stage? Really, c'mon... |
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On Jul 10, 8:23*am, Bret Wade wrote:
Scott wrote: On Jul 7, 12:22 pm, wrote: Anyone know the last year a steel frame was used by a racing cyclist in the TdF? I wouldn't be surprised if someone was riding one in this year's Tour. Until I rode an S-Works Roubaix this year, I wasn't convinced that any carbon fiber bike would/could ride as nicely as a steel Lemond Sarthe I picked up on ebay, and I would gladly ride a hand-built custom steel frameset (from the right builder with the right tubeset) over any carbon fiber bike I'd ridden previously. *Keep in mind, I'm not a weight-weenie, so a pound or so more frame weight means nothing to me. *Comfort and durability, on the other hand... much more important.. You mean the yellow Tsunami with the yellow decals wasn't your favorite bike? Bret I never had one of those framesets... but I hear from those who did that they were quite nice! |
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John Forrest Tomlinson a écrit profondement:
| On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT), Scott | wrote: | | I wouldn't be surprised if someone was riding one in this year's | Tour. | | If you are talking about the Tour de France bike race, you might not | be surprised, but you're still wrong. 2008 Tour Bikes ag2r bh-g4 carbon nanotube agritubel kuota-kom carbon nanotube barloworld bianchi-928 carbon monobloc bouygues time-vxrs carbon tubular caisse pinarello-prince carbon monobloc cofidis time-vxrs carbon tubular crédit-ag look-595 carbon tubular euskaltel orbea-orca carbon monobloc f-des-jeux lapierre-x-lite carbon tube to tube geritol specialized-tarmac carbon monobloc high-road giant-tcr carbon monobloc lampre willier-cento carbon monobloc leekygas crash-n-fail carbon tubular quick-step specialized-tarmac carbon monobloc robberbank colnago-extreme carbon tubular saunier-duval scott-adict carbon monobloc silence-lotto ridley-helium carbon monobloc slipstream felt-f1 carbon monobloc Team-csc cervélo-soloist carbon monobloc team-milram colnago-extreme carbon tubular -- Davey Crockett The Buck doesn't stop Here It keeps on Falling at 9.8m/s² |
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Davey Crockett wrote:
2008 Tour Bikes ag2r bh-g4 carbon nanotube agritubel kuota-kom carbon nanotube barloworld bianchi-928 carbon monobloc bouygues time-vxrs carbon tubular caisse pinarello-prince carbon monobloc cofidis time-vxrs carbon tubular crédit-ag look-595 carbon tubular euskaltel orbea-orca carbon monobloc f-des-jeux lapierre-x-lite carbon tube to tube geritol specialized-tarmac carbon monobloc high-road giant-tcr carbon monobloc lampre willier-cento carbon monobloc leekygas crash-n-fail carbon tubular quick-step specialized-tarmac carbon monobloc robberbank colnago-extreme carbon tubular saunier-duval scott-adict carbon monobloc silence-lotto ridley-helium carbon monobloc slipstream felt-f1 carbon monobloc Team-csc cervélo-soloist carbon monobloc team-milram colnago-extreme carbon tubular One could even ask when was the last time an aluminium frame was used. |
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:55:03 -0700 (PDT), Scott
wrote: On Jul 10, 8:29*am, John Forrest Tomlinson wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT), Scott wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if someone was riding one in this year's Tour. If you are talking about the Tour de France bike race, you might not be surprised, but you're still wrong. JT, how the hell do you know whether I'm wrong or not? Do you really know what every single rider is riding on every single stage? Really, c'mon... I've been around racing enough and seen enough pictures and bikes to know. |
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Scott wrote:
On Jul 10, 8:23 am, Bret Wade wrote: Scott wrote: On Jul 7, 12:22 pm, wrote: Anyone know the last year a steel frame was used by a racing cyclist in the TdF? I wouldn't be surprised if someone was riding one in this year's Tour. Until I rode an S-Works Roubaix this year, I wasn't convinced that any carbon fiber bike would/could ride as nicely as a steel Lemond Sarthe I picked up on ebay, and I would gladly ride a hand-built custom steel frameset (from the right builder with the right tubeset) over any carbon fiber bike I'd ridden previously. Keep in mind, I'm not a weight-weenie, so a pound or so more frame weight means nothing to me. Comfort and durability, on the other hand... much more important. You mean the yellow Tsunami with the yellow decals wasn't your favorite bike? Bret I never had one of those framesets... but I hear from those who did that they were quite nice! Sorry, I thought you did. I liked mine a lot but it wasn't much to look at. |
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On Jul 10, 9:27*am, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:55:03 -0700 (PDT), Scott wrote: On Jul 10, 8:29*am, John Forrest Tomlinson wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT), Scott wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if someone was riding one in this year's Tour. If you are talking about the Tour de France bike race, you might not be surprised, but you're still wrong. JT, how the hell do you know whether I'm wrong or not? *Do you really know what every single rider is riding on every single stage? *Really, c'mon... I've been around racing enough and seen enough pictures and bikes to know. Really? No one is doubting that you've seen lots of bikes. I feel pretty strongly, though, that you have NOT seen every bike ridden by each rider in this year's TdF. While I don't think it's necessarily happening this year, given the long and storied history of riders having their favored frames re- badged to look like the team's bike, it's certainly not outside the realm of possiblity that someone is riding a steel frame. On a slightly related note, I can tell you that there are plenty of riders using carbon fiber bikes that were NOT made by their sponsor. e.g. Gerolsteiner's TT bikes aren't not Specialized bikes, but the decals sure read "Specialized". Yeah, it's possible someone's on a steel bike. I doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised. |
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