Somehow No One Seems To Think

On Mar 27, 2:49*am, Howard Kveck wrote:
In article ,
*Bill C wrote:





On Mar 26, 8:31 am, Bill C wrote:
On Mar 26, 2:36 am, Howard Kveck wrote:
* * * * * * * * * * * * Whatever happened to
* * * * * * * * * * * * Leon Trotsky?
* * * * * * * * * * * * He got an icepick
* * * * * * * * * * * * That made his ears burn.
"If the Revolution has the right to destroy bridges and art monuments
whenever necessary, it will stop still less from laying its hand on
any tendency in art which, no matter how great its achievement in
form, threatens to disintegrate the revolutionary environment or to
arouse the internal forces of the Revolution, that is, the
proletariat, the peasantry and the intelligentsia, to a hostile
opposition to one another. Our standard is, clearly, political,
imperative and intolerant."
*Leon Trotsky quote

*"In a serious struggle there is no worse cruelty than to be
magnanimous at an inopportune time."
*Leon Trotsky quote

"The permanent revolution, in the sense which Marx attached to this
concept, means a revolution which makes no compromise with any single
form of class rule, which does not stop at the democratic stage, which
goes over to socialist measures and to war against reaction from
without; that is, a revolution whose every successive stage is rooted
in the preceding one and which can end only in complete liquidation."
*Leon Trotsky quote

The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which
particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent
and repress them."
*Karl Marx quote

* * * "The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to
socialism."
*Karl Marx quote

* *????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????*?

* *After you told me I was a Stalinist Maoist FARCer, I happened to hear a song by
the Stranglers called "No More Heroes" - that's where the lines are from, and why it
appealed to me at the time I attached it as a sig file. Did you actually think I was
favorably commenting on Trotsky?

--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * tanx,
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Howard

* * * * * * * * * * * * Whatever happened to
* * * * * * * * * * * * Leon Trotsky?
* * * * * * * * * * * * He got an icepick
* * * * * * * * * * * * That made his ears burn.

* * * * * * * * * * *remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah I did. It's typical here. Goes well with the Gueverra shirts.
Bill C

On Mar 26, 5:26 pm, Fred Fredburger
wrote:
Paul G. wrote:
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm a walking encyclopedia. By definition, the
people who advocated radical changes to the status quo were liberals-
Jesus, George Washington, Lincoln, Martin Luther King, etc.

They were fought every step of the way by conservatives, who *by
definition* opposed change, respectively the Pharisees, Tories,
Confederates, and racists.

Your problem is that you have read a dictionary and become confused.

It's simple, really. Evil people are liberals. Good people are
conservatives.

But I bet you've already figured this out.

Thanks for pointing that out. I think I understand it now. As Mr.
Baldwin so eloquently put it:
" Next [option], simply free the slaves. Without the necessary social
skills to assimilate into a predominantly white culture, many freeman
would have surely suffered great hardship and probable genocide.
Again this option was not chosen by the anti-abolitionists for
humanitarian reasons."

So here we have "anti-abolitionists" or alternatively people who are
"pro-life... as a slave" or simply "pro-slavery". These
conservatives were thoughtful people who were wise enough to
appreciate the pitfalls of freedom, and therefore kept people enslaved
for "humanitarian reasons".

Now contrast those wonderful people with the classic liberal, Hillary
Clinton. My God, the woman wants universal health insurance for all
Americans! How evil can you GET?!!!
-Paul

(I lived in Marin during my bike racing phase. *I* was the
conservative, compared with "Wild Man" Gary Fisher, Joe Breeze, et
al. I never expected to encounter NASCAR fans and people extolling
the virtues of slavery in a bike racing forum! )
-Paul

Paul G. wrote:
(I lived in Marin during my bike racing phase. *I* was the conservative,
compared with "Wild Man" Gary Fisher, Joe Breeze, et al. I never expected
to encounter NASCAR fans and people extolling the virtues of slavery in a
bike racing forum! ) -Paul

If we didn't have a slave we wouldn't get any afternoon training rides.

On Mar 27, 9:08*am, "Paul G." wrote:

Now contrast those wonderful people with the classic liberal, Hillary
Clinton. *

funny stuff -- Hillbilly is a "classic liberal."

http://www.belmont.edu/lockesmith/hi..._timeline.html
http://www.belmont.edu/lockesmith/li...say/index.html

The so-called "liberal" in modern pop politics lingo is nothing of the
kind. They are just statists, pure, simple, and stoopid as it is.

"As a supreme if unintended compliment, the enemies of the system of
private enterprise have thought it wise to appropriate its label." --
Joseph A. Schumpeter



My God, the woman wants universal health insurance for all
Americans! *How evil can you GET?!!!

As if that is not evil enough, and not to mention illegal? Are you
having an obasm?

"SLAVE of THE STATE" wrote in message
...
On Mar 27, 9:08 am, "Paul G." wrote:
My God, the woman wants universal health insurance for all
Americans! How evil can you GET?!!!

As if that is not evil enough, and not to mention illegal? Are you
having an obasm?

The US is sinking into a recession caused by the health insurance scam
they're already committing which is making the dollar worth progressively
less and less. And stupid people can't see the connection.

On Mar 27, 3:56*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"SLAVE of THE STATE" wrote in ...
On Mar 27, 9:08 am, "Paul G." wrote:

My God, the woman wants universal health insurance for all
Americans! How evil can you GET?!!!

As if that is not evil enough, and not to mention illegal? *Are you
having an obasm?

The US is sinking into a recession caused by the health insurance scam
they're already committing which is making the dollar worth progressively
less and less. And stupid people can't see the connection.


http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/...her_quote_7f68

"[The task is to] covertly lower the standard of living, the whole
social
structure, of America so that we can be merged with all other
nations."


Quote by: Rowan Gaither
[Horace Rowan Gaither, Jr.] (1909-1961) Attorney, investment banker,
President of the Ford Foundation (1953-1956)
Date: 1954
Source: stated to Congressional Reese Commission investigator Norman
Dodd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Foundation

Under considerable duress by several members of Congress, chief among
them Rep. Jerrold Nadler, the Foundation apologized and then
prohibited the promotion of "violence, terrorism, bigotry or the
destruction of any state" among its grantees, itself sparking protest
among university provosts and various non-profit groups on free speech
issues. [14]

Bill C

Someone anonymous claiming to be Paul G. writes;

Thanks for pointing that out. I think I understand it
now. As Mr. Baldwin so eloquently put it:
" Next [option], simply free the slaves. Without the necessary
social skills to assimilate into a predominantly white culture, many
freeman would have surely suffered great hardship and probable
genocide.
Again this option was not chosen by the anti-abolitionists for
humanitarian reasons."

Just can't stop quoting me out of context can you Paul ? Have I
gotten under skin Paul?
You've yet to back a single word of your spew with one historically
_and_ period correct fact or quote.
I thought you'd ignore Lincoln's Springfield quote and you did.
You're so predictable. Lincoln said the Framers & Founders got it
right. See the _TRUTH_. See Paul run. See Paul run. LOL!
Get your Keds on Paul, because here's another fact that you can run
from. President Van Buren (Democrat) was a well noted abolitionist.
What he hated even more than slavery was _slaves_, as did many
abolitionist of that _era_.
When you can quote Humes, Hutcheson, Kames or Smith then I'll take
your charges under consideration. Until then I'll just consider you to
be some anomynous Usenet troll who used to carry water to the Legends of
Re-pack.

just regards - Mike Baldwin

PS - No self-described Liberal would ever drive a Ford Explorer you
fake.

"Michael Baldwin" wrote in message
...

PS - No self-described Liberal would ever drive a Ford Explorer you
fake.

Around here you can tell the Liberals - they're the one's driving the
Mercedes-Benz M-Class, BMW X5, Cadillac Escalades, Ford Expeditions and
Chevy Suburbans. They're the one's complaining about $100 fillups and trying
to get gas prices down as low as possible.

Oh, yeah, and they're the one's telling the rest of us how corrupt we are.

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:27:09 -0700 (PDT), SLAVE of THE STATE
wrote:

On Mar 27, 9:08*am, "Paul G." wrote:

Now contrast those wonderful people with the classic liberal, Hillary
Clinton. *

funny stuff -- Hillbilly is a "classic liberal."

http://www.belmont.edu/lockesmith/hi..._timeline.html
http://www.belmont.edu/lockesmith/li...say/index.html

The so-called "liberal" in modern pop politics lingo is nothing of the
kind. They are just statists, pure, simple, and stoopid as it is.

"As a supreme if unintended compliment, the enemies of the system of
private enterprise have thought it wise to appropriate its label." --
Joseph A. Schumpeter

The modern liberal is nothing of the kind, more like a politicized libertine.

I feel blessed to live in a country where conservatives and libertarians are
frequently mistaken for one another. It's a mixed blessing in that they are
often forced to make common cause, but good that they can.



Ron

"RonSonic" wrote in message
...

I feel blessed to live in a country where conservatives and libertarians
are
frequently mistaken for one another. It's a mixed blessing in that they
are
often forced to make common cause, but good that they can.

The problem is that although none of us like McCain, it looks like we must
vote for him to prevent either Obama or Hillary from getting in and seeing
the end of our country as we know it.