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THE GOLDEN RULE
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:02:59 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article , Dave Head wrote: Its easy to understand... at the time, the Dems were still into collecting up all the guns, and in spite of how that is not a popular issue with you and your friends, Which is a crock of ****. You're just telling a lie here. Not by a long shot. They were never openly pursuing that, because to say it even they knew was poison. So, they held that view, and worked toward that goal, but were damn transparent to the rest of us. For instance, what is gun registration good for? Not tracking guns. Its good for knowing where the guns are, and then declaring them to be illegal and expecting people to turn them in. Happened in California with the assault weapon ban out there (the people, BTW, mostly didn't turn them in - there's hundreds of thousands of now-illegal "assault" weapons in California society.) What else is gun registration good for? If you get 'em all registered, then you institute a tax on gun ownership, and just keep raising it and raising it until only the wealthly and elite have the wherewithall to keep guns. That's what the liberal elite is aiming at. Nts not a crock, its the truth. The liberal Dems were just smart enough not to say it. Their supporters said it at times, and the occasional politician said it - it was one of the California Dems, in fact, that said, "If it were up to me, if I had the power, I'd say, "Turn 'em all in, Mr. and Mrs America" ". The liberal Dems _were_ most assuredly working toward an eventual confiscation of _all_ the American citizens guns. That's a fact. in a whole lot of the rest of the country, people cherish their 2nd amemdment rights, and in fact all their rights. While California, New York, and a lof of the coastal states would like to forget the 2nd amendment, the rest of the country, those vast seas of red states, believe that without our guns, the liberals would do just as they please, and negate even more of the bill of right. LOL. What crack you been smoking, dude? It's the Republicans that are tossing your rights into the trash, not the Democrats. True and not true. Its both. My particular pet amendment is the 2nd. You pick one and vote on that. I don't care. The SOB's have to be stopped when they F with the constitution and specifically its bill of rights. The Republicans are outstandingly good liars, though, I'll give them credit for that. Not a patch on gun-grabbing liberal democrats, tho. As the old saying goes, all political parties die at last from swallowing their own lies. It's currently the Republicans' turn. Republican party is not going to die. For that to happen, there would have to be a credible replacement around somewhere. There isn't. Going to vote for libertarians? Didn't think so. Nothing else appears to be standing around as a viable replacement. |
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THE GOLDEN RULE
In article , Dave Head wrote:
The liberal Dems _were_ most assuredly working toward an eventual confiscation of _all_ the American citizens guns. That's a fact. So are the republicans, they just aren't noisy about it. Don't believe me, research the expansion of the BATF under shrub. True and not true. Its both. My particular pet amendment is the 2nd. You pick one and vote on that. I don't care. The SOB's have to be stopped when they F with the constitution and specifically its bill of rights. The 2nd is the trump card of the people. Once the 2nd is completely lost we won't even have the others on face value. That's what most americans today don't understand about the second amendment. It isn't there for hunting or sport, it's there for the people to protect themselves from a government that has run amuck. It is there as a final word, the final power of the people. The founders know an armed populace is not controlable. No military, no matter how strong can win in the long term against an armed population short of turning that nation into a worthless, smoldering glass parking lot. A government run amuck is one that would sieze our property, hold us as 'enemy combatants' if we disagree or oppose it's policies, refuse to do it's constitutional obligation to secure the borders, and a whole host of other things that have gone down in recent years. We either get the Ds and Rs out of office before the electronic voting machines with all their backdoors and cheating capability ( http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ ) get in across the board or we will be left with just the trump card. |
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di wrote:
"bill" wrote in message m... Jean H. wrote: Most of the GMOs that I have read about are modified to withstand a particular plant disease or to survive long periods without water, or something like that. There is a need or some foods might not be available at all. hum, indeed a lot of them are made resistent to pesticides (not to the insects!)... the first one in my mind is the Round Up Ready corn by Monsanto.. Bush is the biggest enemy of research right now, since that fool thinks stem cell research is immoral. Good thing that after November he will be a real "Lame duck". Worst president in my lifetime, except maybe Truman. Bill Baka agreed! ... isnt' he the biggest enemy of almost everything? He seems to be even this countries worst enemy. I don't know how he could have gotten re-elected, much less by such a big margin, after 4 years of screwing up, unless the Republicans are either A. Totally stupid. B. The party is so corrupt that they fixed the election. I am just not believing that Kerry lost so badly since everyone I know voted for him. How did the coward win over the guy who actually served? Bill Baka Well Bill, if you were to get out of California you would find thousands of people who voted for Bush, or maybe rather voted against Kerry, either way. As far as fixing the election, they didn't have to, Democrats threw the last 2 elections away by running idiots like Kerry & Core.. BZZZT, The biggest idiot is in the White House now. Bill |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:46:02 GMT, Dave Head wrote:
True and not true. Its both. My particular pet amendment is the 2nd. You pick one and vote on that. I don't care. The Republicans must just /love/ voters like you. As long as you're allowed to keep your popgun (no, they're not scared of it - they have much bigger ones), you don't mind them systematically stripping you of all your other rights. Once you're in indefinite detention with no lawyer and no trial, because your cranky neighbour dobbed you in as a terrorist to someone in Homeland Security with a quota to fill, your precious 2nd Amendment won't do you much good at all. Someone once said that religion is the opiate of the masses. In the US, it seems to be guns. Thank God I don't live there. -- Home page: http://members.westnet.com.au/mvw |
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"Michael Warner" wrote in message ... On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:46:02 GMT, Dave Head wrote: Someone once said that religion is the opiate of the masses. In the US, it seems to be guns. Thank God I don't live there. Thank god you don't either, we have enough like you. |
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Dave Head writes: On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:20:44 GMT, bill wrote: Jean H. wrote: Most of the GMOs that I have read about are modified to withstand a particular plant disease or to survive long periods without water, or something like that. There is a need or some foods might not be available at all. hum, indeed a lot of them are made resistent to pesticides (not to the insects!)... the first one in my mind is the Round Up Ready corn by Monsanto.. Bush is the biggest enemy of research right now, since that fool thinks stem cell research is immoral. Good thing that after November he will be a real "Lame duck". Worst president in my lifetime, except maybe Truman. Bill Baka agreed! ... isnt' he the biggest enemy of almost everything? He seems to be even this countries worst enemy. I don't know how he could have gotten re-elected, much less by such a big margin, after 4 years of screwing up, unless the Republicans are either A. Totally stupid. B. The party is so corrupt that they fixed the election. I am just not believing that Kerry lost so badly since everyone I know voted for him. How did the coward win over the guy who actually served? Bill Baka Its easy to understand... at the time, the Dems were still into collecting up all the guns, and in spite of how that is not a popular issue with you and your friends, in a whole lot of the rest of the country, people cherish their 2nd amemdment rights, and in fact all their rights. While California, New York, and a lof of the coastal states would like to forget the 2nd amendment, the rest of the country, those vast seas of red states, believe that without our ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ guns, the liberals would do just as they please, and negate even more of the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ bill of right. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah, what good is it to live in a country where you can't shoot the people (or government) with whom you disagree? Now, I understand that the Dems have given up on the idea of collecting up all the guns. Maybe they'll actually get somewhere in the polls this time. But, in any close election, the NRA will kill you if you are not pro-gun ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ Soylent Green[tm] is People! -- -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:16:02 +0930, Michael Warner wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:46:02 GMT, Dave Head wrote: True and not true. Its both. My particular pet amendment is the 2nd. You pick one and vote on that. I don't care. The Republicans must just /love/ voters like you. Why the Republicans? I vote for the best candidate in terms of their demonstrated support of the 2nd amendment. Right now, I'm told that Howard Dean is rated by the NRA as an A+ candidate. Sooo... if it were a contest between him and GWB right now, I'd vote for Howard Dean, 'cuz GWB just isn't that good on the 2nd amendment. DPH As long as you're allowed to keep your popgun (no, they're not scared of it - they have much bigger ones), you don't mind them systematically stripping you of all your other rights. Once you're in indefinite detention with no lawyer and no trial, because your cranky neighbour dobbed you in as a terrorist to someone in Homeland Security with a quota to fill, your precious 2nd Amendment won't do you much good at all. Someone once said that religion is the opiate of the masses. In the US, it seems to be guns. Thank God I don't live there. |
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Dave Head wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:20:44 GMT, bill wrote: Jean H. wrote: Most of the GMOs that I have read about are modified to withstand a particular plant disease or to survive long periods without water, or something like that. There is a need or some foods might not be available at all. hum, indeed a lot of them are made resistent to pesticides (not to the insects!)... the first one in my mind is the Round Up Ready corn by Monsanto.. Bush is the biggest enemy of research right now, since that fool thinks stem cell research is immoral. Good thing that after November he will be a real "Lame duck". Worst president in my lifetime, except maybe Truman. Bill Baka agreed! ... isnt' he the biggest enemy of almost everything? He seems to be even this countries worst enemy. I don't know how he could have gotten re-elected, much less by such a big margin, after 4 years of screwing up, unless the Republicans are either A. Totally stupid. B. The party is so corrupt that they fixed the election. I am just not believing that Kerry lost so badly since everyone I know voted for him. How did the coward win over the guy who actually served? Bill Baka Its easy to understand... at the time, the Dems were still into collecting up all the guns, and in spite of how that is not a popular issue with you and your friends, in a whole lot of the rest of the country, people cherish their 2nd amemdment rights, and in fact all their rights. While California, New York, and a lof of the coastal states would like to forget the 2nd amendment, the rest of the country, those vast seas of red states, believe that without our guns, the liberals would do just as they please, and negate even more of the bill of right. Now, I understand that the Dems have given up on the idea of collecting up all the guns. Maybe they'll actually get somewhere in the polls this time. But, in any close election, the NRA will kill you if you are not pro-gun (notice that doesn't mean simply not anti-gun, but actually _for_ 2nd amendment rights). It doesn't matter to the NRA whether you're Dem or Rep, you get an endorsement from them if you support gun right. Then I vote for that person. And several million other NRA members do the same. And that's how they win the election. Dave Head I agree with you on the gun thing since I have a purchased legally and now illegal semi-automatic and if they think I am just going to walk in and give them my gun they are nuts. Anybody who demands MY gun is likely to be looking down the barrel. I'm with you and the NRA on the gun thing, but just like the stupid abortion arguments, I can't base an election on only one issue. I'm pro-choice and pro-gun but anti Bush and most of the current administration. If we had some 'better' Republicans to choose from I would vote for them. I am voting for Arnold for a second term as California's governor, both because I like him and because his Democrat opponent looks kind of sleazy. On the rest it is a split ticket, basically voting for the younger blood and the least stupid as I have mentioned before. Voting a straight ticket to me is the dumbest thing a voter can do, by not checking out each candidate. Like the Democrats, for instance, sometimes you get a Kennedy, and sometimes you get a Gore and a Kerry. Sometimes the Republicans get a Nixon. It's all a game of chance, but I do think there should be an age limit of about 75 for anybody. We have Senators and Congressmen who can barely remember where they work, yet they keep getting elected. And there should definitely be a minimum I.Q. standard for anyone who wants to be president, about 120 to cull the chaff. Bill Baka |
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Dave Head wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:02:59 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: In article , Dave Head wrote: Its easy to understand... at the time, the Dems were still into collecting up all the guns, and in spite of how that is not a popular issue with you and your friends, Which is a crock of ****. You're just telling a lie here. Not by a long shot. They were never openly pursuing that, because to say it even they knew was poison. So, they held that view, and worked toward that goal, but were damn transparent to the rest of us. For instance, what is gun registration good for? Not tracking guns. Its good for knowing where the guns are, and then declaring them to be illegal and expecting people to turn them in. Happened in California with the assault weapon ban out there (the people, BTW, mostly didn't turn them in - there's hundreds of thousands of now-illegal "assault" weapons in California society.) Heh, tell me about it. Mine stays put. I might need it some day. What else is gun registration good for? If you get 'em all registered, then you institute a tax on gun ownership, and just keep raising it and raising it until only the wealthly and elite have the wherewithall to keep guns. That's what the liberal elite is aiming at. Nts not a crock, its the truth. The liberal Dems were just smart enough not to say it. Their supporters said it at times, and the occasional politician said it - it was one of the California Dems, in fact, that said, "If it were up to me, if I had the power, I'd say, "Turn 'em all in, Mr. and Mrs America" ". The liberal Dems _were_ most assuredly working toward an eventual confiscation of _all_ the American citizens guns. That's a fact. in a whole lot of the rest of the country, people cherish their 2nd amemdment rights, and in fact all their rights. While California, New York, and a lof of the coastal states would like to forget the 2nd amendment, the rest of the country, those vast seas of red states, believe that without our guns, the liberals would do just as they please, and negate even more of the bill of right. LOL. What crack you been smoking, dude? It's the Republicans that are tossing your rights into the trash, not the Democrats. True and not true. Its both. My particular pet amendment is the 2nd. You pick one and vote on that. I don't care. The SOB's have to be stopped when they F with the constitution and specifically its bill of rights. Bush would like to mess with the constitution, not on guns, but other things, so why not bitch about 'junk' amendments? Ever since 9/11 I have found excessive police presence. When I turned 55 I went to the local Social Security office just to see if I was eligible for anything, since I have paid a ton of income tax and SS tax, and I was met at the door by a retired cop with a metal detector wand. I said "What the F..k is this?" and he said he was hired after 9/11 to prevent a possible terrorist occurrence in the office. A Social Security office? Get real, there are 3 employees and no money and there were 4 gray haired people all over 70 just sitting there. Bush is getting ridiculous with the over policing of the country. As people on r.b.misc know, I was detained just for riding my bicycle on a public road too close to an Air Force base and looking suspicious. I am a totally white third generation American and no way do I look the least bit arabic, yet I was held until a county sheriff could come and load me and my bike for a quick ride back home. Bush may not be anti-gun but he sure as hell wants to take our freedoms away. I am more worried about being hassled by the Homeland Security people than being killed by a terrorist these days. Bill Baka The Republicans are outstandingly good liars, though, I'll give them credit for that. Not a patch on gun-grabbing liberal democrats, tho. As the old saying goes, all political parties die at last from swallowing their own lies. It's currently the Republicans' turn. Republican party is not going to die. For that to happen, there would have to be a credible replacement around somewhere. There isn't. Going to vote for libertarians? Didn't think so. Nothing else appears to be standing around as a viable replacement. |
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Population surplus
Jean H. wrote:
Where did they come up with 272 nations? The last I heard it was 201 or something like that. When I was in grade school I think it was only about 104 or something close. Is somebody minting new countries? Bill Baka 1) a nation is not a country... think of the First Nations, Quebecers etc. 2) There are many more coutries than that, most of them are not recognized... the weirdest country being this offshore oil platform close to britain! Jean ------------------------ http://geography.about.com/cs/countr...wcountries.htm New Countries of the World From Matt Rosenberg, Your Guide to Geography. Jan 2 2006 The 30 New Countries Created Since 1990 Since 1990, thirty new countries have been created. The dissolution of the USSR and Yugoslavia in the early 1990s caused the creation of most of the newly independent states. You probably know about many of these changes but a few of these new countries seemed to slip by almost unnoticed. This comprehensive listing will update you about the countries which have formed since 1990. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics Fifteen new countries became independent with the dissolution of the USSR in 1991. Three of these countries declared and were granted independence a few months preceding the fall of the Soviet Union but the remaining twelve did not become independent until the Soviet Union fell completely on December 26, 1991. I was under the impression, apparently wrong, that those counted as countries, but under the umbrella of the USSR. Armenia Azerbaijan Belarus Estonia (September 1991) Georgia Kazakhstan Kyrgyzstan Latvia (September 1991) Lithuania (September 1991) Moldova Russia Tajikistan Turkmenistan Ukraine Uzbekistan Former Yugoslavia Yugoslavia dissolved in the early 1990s into five independent countries. Bosnia and Herzegovina, February 29, 1992 Croatia, June 25, 1991 Macedonia (officially The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) declared independence on September 8, 1991 but wasn't recognized by the United Nations until 1993 and the United States and Russia in February of 1994 Serbia and Montenegro, (also known as the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia), April 17, 1992 Slovenia, June 25, 1991 These were the ones I knew about due to all the press coverage of them warring on each other. They got rid of the USSR and went right into "Ethnic cleansing" mode. Some people are never happy. Other New Countries Nine other countries became independent through a variety of causes. March 21, 1990 - Namibia became independent of South Africa May 22, 1990 - North and South Yemen merged to form a unified Yemen October 3, 1990 - East Germany and West Germany merged to form a unified Germany after the fall of the Iron Curtain September 17, 1991 - The Marshall Islands was part of the Trust Territory of Pacific Islands (administered by the United States) and gained independence as a former colony September 17, 1991 - Micronesia, previously known as the Caroline Islands, became independent from the United States January 1, 1993 - The Czech Republic and Slovakia became independent nations when Czechoslovakia dissolved May 25, 1993 - Eritrea was a part of Ethiopia but seceded and gained independence October 1, 1994 - Palau was part of the Trust Territory of Pacific Islands (administered by the United States) and gained independence as a former colony May 20, 2002 - East Timor declared independence from Portugal in 1975 but became independent of Indonesia in 2002 Most of these I have heard about but never really added them all up. One or two of the minor ones per year can slip by without being noticed. Most are insignificant anyway, and since I am not a politician, not in my interest to be on top of them all, but it is an interesting trend that everyone, even a two bit island, wants to be a country. Bill Baka |
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