14 years for owners of killer cars

The owners of killer dogs are to face 14 years in prison.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/439...dangerous-pets
.... And five years in prison if their dog hurts someone.

Should the owners of vehicles that kill face equally high sentences.
What cyclist and pedestrian safety measures would the owners of HGVs
add to their vehicles if they faced 5 years in prison for running over
an innocent third party's foot?

Would car owners adequately maintain their vehicles tyres if they
faced 12 years incarceration if their car killed someone?

Is it fair for vehicle owners to take ultimate responsibility for
their vehicle's safety?

On 30/10/2013 00:47, Bertie Wooster wrote:
The owners of killer dogs are to face 14 years in prison.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/439...dangerous-pets
... And five years in prison if their dog hurts someone.

Should the owners of vehicles that kill face equally high sentences.
What cyclist and pedestrian safety measures would the owners of HGVs
add to their vehicles if they faced 5 years in prison for running over
an innocent third party's foot?

Would car owners adequately maintain their vehicles tyres if they
faced 12 years incarceration if their car killed someone?

Is it fair for vehicle owners to take ultimate responsibility for
their vehicle's safety?

as long as cyclists are included and accountable, why not.

On 30/10/2013 01:07, Mrcheerful wrote:
On 30/10/2013 00:47, Bertie Wooster wrote:
The owners of killer dogs are to face 14 years in prison.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/439...dangerous-pets

... And five years in prison if their dog hurts someone.

Should the owners of vehicles that kill face equally high sentences.
What cyclist and pedestrian safety measures would the owners of HGVs
add to their vehicles if they faced 5 years in prison for running over
an innocent third party's foot?

Would car owners adequately maintain their vehicles tyres if they
faced 12 years incarceration if their car killed someone?

Is it fair for vehicle owners to take ultimate responsibility for
their vehicle's safety?

as long as cyclists are included and accountable, why not.

ps. I was making the post on topic

On 30/10/2013 01:08, Mrcheerful wrote:
On 30/10/2013 01:07, Mrcheerful wrote:
On 30/10/2013 00:47, Bertie Wooster wrote:
The owners of killer dogs are to face 14 years in prison.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/439...dangerous-pets


... And five years in prison if their dog hurts someone.

Should the owners of vehicles that kill face equally high sentences.
What cyclist and pedestrian safety measures would the owners of HGVs
add to their vehicles if they faced 5 years in prison for running over
an innocent third party's foot?

Would car owners adequately maintain their vehicles tyres if they
faced 12 years incarceration if their car killed someone?

Is it fair for vehicle owners to take ultimate responsibility for
their vehicle's safety?

as long as cyclists are included and accountable, why not.

ps. I was making the post on topic

The post was always on topic.

On 30/10/2013 00:47, Bertie Wooster wrote:
The owners of killer dogs are to face 14 years in prison.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/439...dangerous-pets
... And five years in prison if their dog hurts someone.

Should the owners of vehicles that kill face equally high sentences.
What cyclist and pedestrian safety measures would the owners of HGVs
add to their vehicles if they faced 5 years in prison for running over
an innocent third party's foot?

Would car owners adequately maintain their vehicles tyres if they
faced 12 years incarceration if their car killed someone?

Is it fair for vehicle owners to take ultimate responsibility for
their vehicle's safety?


Of course drivers should face far stiffer penalties for their awful
driving. Where a driver has deliberately used his vehicle as a weapon I
think that he/she has shown themselves unworthy of holding a driving
licence and they should be banned for life.

On 30/10/2013 09:26, Brian Robertson wrote:
On 30/10/2013 00:47, Bertie Wooster wrote:
The owners of killer dogs are to face 14 years in prison.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/439...dangerous-pets

... And five years in prison if their dog hurts someone.

Should the owners of vehicles that kill face equally high sentences.
What cyclist and pedestrian safety measures would the owners of HGVs
add to their vehicles if they faced 5 years in prison for running over
an innocent third party's foot?

Would car owners adequately maintain their vehicles tyres if they
faced 12 years incarceration if their car killed someone?

Is it fair for vehicle owners to take ultimate responsibility for
their vehicle's safety?


Of course drivers should face far stiffer penalties for their awful
driving. Where a driver has deliberately used his vehicle as a weapon I
think that he/she has shown themselves unworthy of holding a driving
licence and they should be banned for life.

Where a driver or a cyclist has deliberately used his vehicle as a
weapon against a human being, they should be imprisoned for life. The
sentence should not be lighter for attempted murder than it is for
successful murder.

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:26:51 +0000, Brian Robertson
wrote:

On 30/10/2013 00:47, Bertie Wooster wrote:
The owners of killer dogs are to face 14 years in prison.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/439...dangerous-pets
... And five years in prison if their dog hurts someone.

Should the owners of vehicles that kill face equally high sentences.
What cyclist and pedestrian safety measures would the owners of HGVs
add to their vehicles if they faced 5 years in prison for running over
an innocent third party's foot?

Would car owners adequately maintain their vehicles tyres if they
faced 12 years incarceration if their car killed someone?

Is it fair for vehicle owners to take ultimate responsibility for
their vehicle's safety?


Of course drivers should face far stiffer penalties for their awful
driving. Where a driver has deliberately used his vehicle as a weapon I
think that he/she has shown themselves unworthy of holding a driving
licence and they should be banned for life.

I am talking about owners taking responsibility, the owner is not
always the same as the driver, and very often not the same in the case
of HGVs.

"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...
The owners of killer dogs are to face 14 years in prison.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/439...dangerous-pets
... And five years in prison if their dog hurts someone.

Should the owners of vehicles that kill face equally high sentences.
What cyclist and pedestrian safety measures would the owners of HGVs
add to their vehicles if they faced 5 years in prison for running over
an innocent third party's foot?

Would car owners adequately maintain their vehicles tyres if they
faced 12 years incarceration if their car killed someone?

Is it fair for vehicle owners to take ultimate responsibility for
their vehicle's safety?

You will never be compared to Simon Mason. That was a pathetic effort.
Simon was much better.