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Why do bicyclist have to try the patience of automobile drivers?
I really admire people who ride their bikes to and from work. I am always
curteous and give them the advantage. I have arthritis in my hips so bicycling is out for me. So why is that I find bicyclists so rude and road hogs? Recently a bicyclist rode by my car and bashed off the side mirror. It cost me $200 to repair. I was sitting in my car waiting for a bicyclist to pass by. It was dusk and the person had nothing on their bike or person to let people know they were man powered. So why did this person bang on my car in such a manner as to scare the holy crap outta me? We have a bicycle path that was built just for bicyclists here in Seattle so why do you two wheelers have to travel on roads that are not wide enough to accommadate you? Today I had my fill. On a long narrow barely two lane road to a local beach, several macho bikers were holding up a long line of traffic so they could prove their manliness. We all have to share the roads but I pay my highway taxes and you guys don't pay a damn thing! After seeing the rudness and crudness of the display of macho egos and selfish attitudes you all have lost my respect!!! Just watch out because if I am ever on that road with you guys I am not moving over! You can ride in the ditch for all I care. I was not even one of the car being held up! I was going the other way and could see the concern on the other drivers faces while these Yahoos on two wheels smugly pedeled UP the dangerous road from Golden Gardens. You deserve what you get in my opinion! K. rec.kites |
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Why do bicyclist have to try the patience of automobile drivers?
Kathy: At first I thought your post was a troll, but I did a quick google
search on your email address, and you appear to be real. Not only that, but in your various postings elsewhere (mostly in rec.kites) you also appear to be a very reasonable person. As a reasonable person, you know that the cyclists that you came across are actually a very small number of people behaving badly. That doesn't mean that we *all* do! But regarding the "macho" guys you had to share the road with... if they were riding safely, as far to the right as practical, they had as much right to the road as you did. You are *way* off-base to say they don't deserve to be there because they don't pay taxes; the gas taxes pay for the tiniest fraction of the road costs. More likely they pay for more than their share when they're out on a bike, given how little wear a bicycle causes a roadway. Property & income taxes pay the majority of road costs, and those cyclists most assuredly pay their fair share. And it *was* a road to a beach, after all. Recreation at the end of the line for those in cars, recreation for the cyclists on the way. Please reconsider your attitude at a calmer time. If not for the mirror incident, you probably wouldn't feel this way (and you'd have to talk to a heck of a lot of people before you had anyone else have a similar situation... that was most definitely not the norm). --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com "Goodwinds" wrote in message ... I really admire people who ride their bikes to and from work. I am always curteous and give them the advantage. I have arthritis in my hips so bicycling is out for me. So why is that I find bicyclists so rude and road hogs? Recently a bicyclist rode by my car and bashed off the side mirror. It cost me $200 to repair. I was sitting in my car waiting for a bicyclist to pass by. It was dusk and the person had nothing on their bike or person to let people know they were man powered. So why did this person bang on my car in such a manner as to scare the holy crap outta me? We have a bicycle path that was built just for bicyclists here in Seattle so why do you two wheelers have to travel on roads that are not wide enough to accommadate you? Today I had my fill. On a long narrow barely two lane road to a local beach, several macho bikers were holding up a long line of traffic so they could prove their manliness. We all have to share the roads but I pay my highway taxes and you guys don't pay a damn thing! After seeing the rudness and crudness of the display of macho egos and selfish attitudes you all have lost my respect!!! Just watch out because if I am ever on that road with you guys I am not moving over! You can ride in the ditch for all I care. I was not even one of the car being held up! I was going the other way and could see the concern on the other drivers faces while these Yahoos on two wheels smugly pedeled UP the dangerous road from Golden Gardens. You deserve what you get in my opinion! K. rec.kites |
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Why do bicyclist have to try the patience of automobile drivers?
"Goodwinds" wrote Today I had my fill. On a long narrow barely two lane road to a local beach, several macho bikers were holding up a long line of traffic so they could prove their manliness. We all have to share the roads but I pay my highway taxes and you guys don't pay a damn thing! After seeing the rudness and crudness of the display of macho egos and selfish attitudes you all have lost my respect!!! Just watch out because if I am ever on that road with you guys I am not moving over! You can ride in the ditch for all I care. I was not even one of the car being held up! I was going the other way and could see the concern on the other drivers faces while these Yahoos on two wheels smugly pedeled UP the dangerous road from Golden Gardens. You deserve what you get in my opinion! K. rec.kites No idea where this yahoo came from, or why it was posted in here... But...one day, people like this (and the possibly idiot cyclists) will understand the concept of sharing, as it was taught in kindergarten. Pete |
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Goodwinds wrote:
: Just watch out because if I am ever on that road with you guys I am not moving : over! You can ride in the ditch for all I care. my lawyer is more fearsome than your baditude. ..................\|||/ ..................(0 o) ...,---ooO--(_)---------, ...|` ` ` `PLEASE```````| ...|` ` DON'T FEED```` | ...|` ` ` THE TROLLS`` | ...'-------------Ooo----' ..............|__|__| ..................|| || ............ooO Ooo -- david reuteler |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:07:23 -0500, Luigi de Guzman
wrote: On 23 Feb 2004 03:16:50 GMT, (Goodwinds) wrote: I really admire people who ride their bikes to and from work. I am always curteous and give them the advantage. I have arthritis in my hips so bicycling is out for me. So why is that I find bicyclists so rude and road hogs? Recently a bicyclist rode by my car and bashed off the side mirror. It cost me $200 to repair. I was sitting in my car waiting for a bicyclist to pass by. It was dusk and the person had nothing on their bike or person to let people know they were man powered. So why did this person bang on my car in such a manner as to scare the holy crap outta me? Because you were drifting dangerously close to the cyclist. We haven't got anything like a horn to warn you that you're about to squash us--especially when you're moving very close. Shouting is futile, since drivers have their windows shut, their radios on, or are on the phone. So we do what we can--we knock your car to get your attention. If you were scared, then you were spared the weight of a dead cyclist on your conscience. Bashing your side mirror off, if intentional, is inexcusable vandalism. Since this person seems to be a real, reasonable person, may I suggest a -bit- of exaggeration to make the point? It takes a pretty good slam to "bash off the side view mirror", and it would cause an injury to the cyclist, as well as causing him to absorb the energy. To be fair, how did said cyclist do this bashing? With his hand? Elbow? Foot? You don't have to answer, Ellen, just maybe back off on that part; it's understandable to exaggerate if it scared you. Later you say 'bang on your car'. Did he both bash off the mirror AND in the same stroke bang on your car? Oh-oh. Made a little tactical error there, eh? (OK, I'm giving you a hard time, but I, if it really happened then I apologize.) At first it sounded like she was parked "rode by my car...", but I guess it was drifting if she was moving. Did you report the vandalism to the police? No? Well, in the future, make a police report. They can track down the guy and issue him a citation. Best, -B |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:35:43 -0500, Badger_South
wrote: Since this person seems to be a real, reasonable person, may I suggest a -bit- of exaggeration to make the point? It takes a pretty good slam to "bash off the side view mirror", and it would cause an injury to the cyclist, as well as causing him to absorb the energy. To be fair, how did said cyclist do this bashing? With his hand? Elbow? Foot? Frame pump. A Zefal HPx will do considerable damage in the hands of a cornered roadie. I have never had to unlimber mine in anger--only for punctures. You don't have to answer, Ellen, just maybe back off on that part; it's understandable to exaggerate if it scared you. Later you say 'bang on your car'. Did he both bash off the mirror AND in the same stroke bang on your car? Oh-oh. Made a little tactical error there, eh? (OK, I'm giving you a hard time, but I, if it really happened then I apologize.) At first it sounded like she was parked "rode by my car...", but I guess it was drifting if she was moving. Molasses traffic, B. Cyclist was filtering through on one side or other. Or all traffic moving at nearly the same speed--I can imagine this taking place at around 15 miles an hour on a busy road. In fact, I've ridden in this sort of thing. -Luigi |
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Why do bicyclist have to try the patience of automobile drivers?
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:43:49 -0500, Luigi de Guzman
wrote: To be fair, how did said cyclist do this bashing? With his hand? Elbow? Foot? Frame pump. A Zefal HPx will do considerable damage in the hands of a cornered roadie. I have never had to unlimber mine in anger--only for punctures. Luigi, you givin' ideas to the loyal opposition. I -know- you know the answer, heh, I'm asking her. Reminds me of the time we were showing off our daughter's knowledge at the family gathering and asked her how many bears were in the Goldilocks story. Well, dear old Dad (my father) chirps up and hollars out "Three!" and looks all happy. I said, 'DAD!, we -know- you know the answer..' He was all like, crestfallen, so I had to go over and pet him on the head. ;-) -B |
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